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Did Mourdock Just
Lose the Senate?

Commentary Magazine, by Jonathan S. Tobin

Original Article

Posted By:StormCnter, 10/24/2012 10:23:05 AM

Republican hopes for taking back the Senate this year have absorbed a variety of blows in the past several months. Olympia Snowe’s retirement and Todd Akin’s comments about pregnancy and rape dramatically reduced the chances of a GOP takeover. (Snip)Here’s the quote from an answer to a question about his opposition to even the rape exception on abortion: I’ve struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.

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It seems too easy for a man to say a woman should carry a rapist's child. I hate abortion "on demand", but there should be exceptions.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: snapper451, 10/24/2012 10:27:51 AM     (No. 8957811)

The libs will get hysterical now - like lemmings! This is red meat for them and despite it being a "gaffe" will enrage them. Judge the man by his greater record, not by a gaffe.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: noproblems, 10/24/2012 10:27:56 AM     (No. 8957812)

These stupid Rino's (and I am talking about Tobin)need to be called out. Mourdock was saying that God wanted life to continue, not that God wanted the woman raped. Get a freakin clue.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Michaelus, 10/24/2012 10:57:43 AM     (No. 8957823)

It was not a gaffe. He said that a child is still a child even if its father is a rapist. That is the truth.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 10/24/2012 10:57:55 AM     (No. 8957824)

Tea Parties to the rescue. Elect Mourdock and Akin and these Kneepad Media created 'insults' will stop.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nimby, 10/24/2012 10:59:42 AM     (No. 8957829)

What is wrong with these maroons!! They have brains of a cockroach. It makes me think these idiots are dRat plants. Thanks a lot Tea party!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 10/24/2012 11:02:27 AM     (No. 8957835)

Sounds like Mourdock literally spoke the truth about the child of rape. If he loses for telling the truth, so be it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: chillijilli, 10/24/2012 11:02:38 AM     (No. 8957836)

Pubbies should have one very carefully-crafted statement on this issue and repeat it ad nauseum so the MSM will stop asking.
Will they never learn? Until they do, they leave themselves wide open for gaffes and give the liberals an opportunity for mass hysteria.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 10/24/2012 11:03:16 AM     (No. 8957837)

If abortion is the taking of innocent life, isn't it always and forever the taking of innocent life in every case? It just seems if you make one exception, there are thousands to follow. Innocent is innocent~~harsh though it may seem.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Lucky4, 10/24/2012 11:08:42 AM     (No. 8957854)

If you read his remarks in context and do not get hysterical and looking for these nasty headlines by the MSM, he said every life is precious and a gift from God. I agree. You either believe that or you are OK with abortion.
Most of my friends had an abortion, so I do not judge, it is just a really uncomfortable question most women do not want to face.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Susannah, 10/24/2012 11:11:59 AM     (No. 8957862)

Mourdock never had much chance to win. This just seals the deal. Lugar had a 77.02 rating from the ACU. I'd have preferred that to a 0.0 rating from Donnelly, which is what we'll get.

When did the Tea Party prioritize the pro-life position? Not that I object to the position, but wasn't the Tea Party intended to be about fiscal issues?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bobgray2, 10/24/2012 11:13:08 AM     (No. 8957864)

Why? Because he looks at children as a blessing from God no matter what the circumstances of their conception? I feel pity for those people who can not see that children are much more than just the product of combining two sources of DNA. With love and support, their potential is unlimited, as is their capacity to return that love.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: devnull, 10/24/2012 11:18:38 AM     (No. 8957886)

Let me make sure I follow this: God wanted the life to occur. If God wanted the life to occur than he must have also wanted the method of procreation to occur - unless you are willing to state that God is so helpless that he cannot get a woman pregnant without resorting to rape, and if you think that, think about the basis of Christianity - so he must have wanted the rape to occur, if he wanted the rape to occur, than he intended for sin. The God I worship drives no one to sin. Now had he said: "God still loves that child, God still loves the mother and holds her blameless, and that he feels that God would want the mother to hold the child blameless and not punish the child by denying them life." I would have zero disagreement, but that is not what he said and another knucklehead throws a knuckleball and gives the Dems a walk. My only hope is that Romney's coattails are long enough to carry these idiots over the finish-line.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Whimsy, 10/24/2012 11:21:13 AM     (No. 8957897)

Mourdock was right. God is the one who opens the womb. I've met a woman who was raped and got pregnant. She kept the child and raised him. Sadly, too many people will read his comment and 'assume' that Mourdock is done. Reality? He put Lugar out, and he'll do the same to 'Bailout Joe' Donnelly. The 'libs' assume that the population won't vote straight ticket. Oh, yes they WILL!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: GuyfromNh, 10/24/2012 11:32:39 AM     (No. 8957939)

What an idiot. He and Akin must be secret twin brothers.

Look, guys, do you want to be ministers? Go for it!

But do you want to be a U.S. Senator and and win control back of the Senate so a President Romney can start to undo The One's messes, then shut the *bleep* up.

Once again, as victory is within grasp, the Stupid Party shoots itself in the foot...

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Reply 15 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/24/2012 11:35:51 AM     (No. 8957953)

If there's anything that fascinates liberals, it's female reproductive activity.

Enough.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 10/24/2012 11:41:31 AM     (No. 8957982)

If Murdock wanted to be a theologian or a philosopher before getting in to politics it looks like he will soon have a second chance.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Pepperblue, 10/24/2012 11:43:02 AM     (No. 8957989)

You are either pro life or you aren't -- no exceptions. I stand with Mourdock.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 10/24/2012 11:47:43 AM     (No. 8958012)

What crime did the child commit to justify your death sentence, O.P?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: fhancock, 10/24/2012 11:55:08 AM     (No. 8958039)

Mourdock is going to win so lighten up...this is Indiana not California...and if it wasn't for the Tea Party Pelosi would still be the Speaker and Obama not Romney would be at 51%...just sayin

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Reply 20 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/24/2012 11:56:38 AM     (No. 8958050)

This is simply not an issue these candidates should be talking about. Every utterance is twisted and played by the media again and again. It's quicksand. Especially this late in the game.

You have an economy in turmoil and Democrats in utter failure and you go to social issues? I know there are some people here who would demand that, but what has it gotten us in the past? What has engaging in this conversation politically done? Killed a bunch of babies is what it's done.

We all know the definition of insanity. I just with the Republicans could break the cycle.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: jlw509, 10/24/2012 12:02:09 PM     (No. 8958084)

Mourdock was right, but he was also stupid for saying it the way he did, which always gives the opposition the opportunity to freak out.

He needs to have a well-crafted, inelastic, colorfast, wrinkle-free, non-toxic one-sentence answer.

"Every life is precious, every woman, every child, period."

That would do. Invoking the inscrutable Will of God will only bring the whole screaming, gibbering Twittersphere down on your head.

Don't do that.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ebuilder, 10/24/2012 12:13:16 PM     (No. 8958131)

This is not like picking large ripe canteloupe. We have the candidates we have. In olden days we also had Vikings. Men who took spoils of war. My Icelandic mother's red hair dates back to raids on Ireland. Noah got drunk one night and his daughters apparently had their way, and they conceived. The Russians raped 100,000 German and Polish women in Berlin, and the women who didn't commit suicide often gave birth. Right now in the Middle East you have a relationship between men and women that can begin in rape, follow into cliterectomies, and end in honor killings. In Egypt they are trying to pass a law where men can have sex with their dead wives for up to six hours. God knows these children in the mother's womb. That's what Mourdock was saying. You have a choice. You can vote like a Frenchman or you can go with the "upright, downright, forthright square" who loves America and knows how to vote policy that will keep us from slavery.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: tedinmich, 10/24/2012 12:18:35 PM     (No. 8958154)

Some posters throw the word "Idiot" around rather freely.
Must be nice to be so perfect!!

Ted in Michigan

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Reply 24 - Posted by: woodsman, 10/24/2012 12:31:33 PM     (No. 8958188)

When will we learn that social issues have no place in governmental politics - they are a loser and should be. Our side rightly complains about the government interfering in our lives in all other issues with the exception of this one. This has and will turn fiscal conservatives, independents and libertarians who are social moderates against the party and the result is we will lose elections and with it our freedom - enough

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Reply 25 - Posted by: jalo1951, 10/24/2012 12:41:27 PM     (No. 8958219)

While I understand what everyone is saying I am not so sure you would feel the same way if it was your 11 year old daughter (a 5th or 6th grader) who had been impregnated by her 27 year old uncle. I will not judge anyone who chooses an abortion under these circumstances. I have to give my support to the person who is in the here and now, in the flesh. Her mental and physical health must be considered. This is wholly different from the woman who decides to abort for no reason when the child is fully developed and close to term. Abortion is the law of the land and Mourdock cannot change it. It would have to be reviewed by the Supreme Court and reversed and then it would probably be sent back to each state. I live in Indiana and I voted for Mourdock because I felt it was time for Lugar to retire. I will vote for Mourdock again.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: hicokid, 10/24/2012 12:43:51 PM     (No. 8958231)

Nope. No way, no how, could I come around to this man's thinking. It's about as backwards as the Islamic extremists.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: DocH, 10/24/2012 1:37:41 PM     (No. 8958393)

In 1860, the pundits were saying, ''Slavery is the law of the land and cannot be changed; even the Supreme Court has affirmed it (Dredd Scott).'' Some things are true right up to the point where they become false. Why should I vote for a pro-death candidate?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: tipover, 10/24/2012 2:22:43 PM     (No. 8958484)

So, you would vote for the Democrat 'cause you're miffed?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: absalom, 10/24/2012 2:42:00 PM     (No. 8958524)

Clements told us, "Better to sit in silence and be presumed a dunce than open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Mourdock has removed all doubt w/this reckless comment. Like the moth to a lit candle, the intellectually pretentious, are forever drawn into discussions way beyond their ability and make utter fools of themselves in the process.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ramona, 10/24/2012 4:15:47 PM     (No. 8958782)

Poorly chosen words and Mourdock may suffer the consequences of them. Rape is a heinous crime. Severe, long-term punishment should be the response, holding responsible those who commit the crime (and, I would add, those who falsely accuse another of it).

It is difficult, even extremely uncomfortable, to take a principled stand here. But for what other crime is an innocent party sentenced to death?

Victims of rape deserve to be cared for in every way, and if their lives are in danger due to a pregnancy, then abortion should be allowed as it has always been. Otherwise there is no justification to end an innocent life. That is not meant as an easy or glib answer, for it's not. It is an enormously difficult and unjust situation. But neither your life nor mine nor that of the unborn ought to be at risk due to our fathers' crimes.

Ramona (the Pest)

Or we could just turn away and pretend as if 50 million abortions have had no effect on our culture and society.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Reilly, 10/24/2012 5:16:46 PM     (No. 8958959)


This writer would abort the Tea Party, which is responsible for the Republican House and Obama's impending defeat. It ain't perfect, but at least we don't have to deal with Dick Freaking Lugar. Good riddance.


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Reply 32 - Posted by: tedinmich, 10/24/2012 10:52:26 PM     (No. 8959673)

It wasn't Clement #29.Try again!!
Ted in Mich.




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Reply 33 - Posted by: absalom, 10/25/2012 12:36:48 PM     (No. 8961105)

#32. It most certainly was Samuel Langhorne Clemens whose pen name was Mark Twain. Inadvertently, I inserted a 't' in his last name.

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Sources on the ground in Benghazi during the 2012 terror attack are pushing back hard on former CIA acting director Mike Morell´s testimony on Capitol Hill, where he defended his role in shaping the administration´s narrative and claimed politics were not involved. As part of Morell´s testimony on Wednesday, the former acting and deputy CIA director acknowledged that he overruled the guidance of the top CIA officer in Libya at the time. That official told Morell the attack was not an "escalation of protests," but Morell said he had to weigh that against analysts who concluded the opposite. He ultimately went

North Carolina drivers to
be charged by the mile?

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WTVD-TV [Raleigh-Durham, NC], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/3/2014 6:40:07 AM     Post Reply
Big changes could be just down the road for North Carolina drivers. A proposal is in the works that would change the state tax system to charge drivers by the mile, instead of at the gas pump.The proposal would be to charge a half cent per mile for cars, which would generate almost $500 million in annual state revenue. A driver who travelled 15,000 miles in a year would pay about $75. "Basically you pay per the mile. It´s treating transportation as a utility, much like your water and sewer," said Larry Goode, with the Institute of Transportation Research and
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David Letterman makes big announcement
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CBS News, by Lauren Moraski    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 4/3/2014 5:00:45 PM     Post Reply
It´s the end of an era: David Letterman announced Thursday that he´s retiring from CBS´ "Late Show" sometime next year. He made that announcement during the taping of his program this afternoon. The late-night talk show host, who will celebrate his 67th birthday next week, made his debut on the "Late Show" on Aug. 30, 1993. Letterman got his television start in 1978 on the CBS variety series "Mary," starring Mary Tyler Moore. Months later, he paid his first visit to "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" -- marking the first of 22 appearances. He also guest-hosted "Tonight" numerous times.

Dem Rep.: ‘Members of Congress
Are Underpaid,’ Can’t Afford
to ‘Live Decently’

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Mediaite, by Josh Feldman    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/3/2014 7:15:42 PM     Post Reply
Do you think members of Congress are overpaid or underpaid? Most likely you’d go with the former, but Democratic congressman Jim Moran argues it’s actually the latter. In an interview with CQ Roll Call, Moran says, “I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid.” The House recently took up a bill to freeze members’ paychecks, placing another halt on the annual cost-of-living pay increases they would normally get and keeping annual salary at $174,000. Moran believes that this is the wrong way to go, not necessarily talking about himself in particular, but saying there

The GOP faithful should
give Jeb Bush a hearing

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Washington Post, by George F. Will    Original Article
Posted By: tisHimself- 4/2/2014 11:20:56 PM     Post Reply
The human kindling that makes up the flammable Republican base may soon burst into flames, again. Portions of that excitable cohort are looking — some with fawn-like eyes filled with hurt, others with sparks shooting from eyes narrowed like gun slits — askance at other Republicans urging Jeb Bush to seek the 2016 presidential nomination. A candidacy by Florida’s former governor would be desirable. But if Republicans want to avoid intra-party carnage, they should be very careful about doing what The Post recently reported: “Many of the Republican Party’s most powerful insiders and financiers have begun a behind-the-scenes campaign to draft

Networks Refuse Obama Request for
Primetime to Announce Obamacare
Hitting 7 Million Mark

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Mediaite, by Noah Rothman    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/3/2014 7:04:57 PM     Post Reply
According to a report via BuzzFeed’s Evan McMorris-Santoro, President Barack Obama requested the opportunity to address the nation in prime time on the major broadcast networks on Tuesday night to announce that the Affordable Care Act had reached 7 million enrollees. Those networks did not, however, accommodate the White House’s request. “Three sources familiar with the request confirmed the White House asked for the prime time slot in their effort both to emphasize a bright moment following the challenging roll out and, more important, to try to reintroduce the country to a law that remains unpopular,”


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