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Obama Wins Third Debate but
Romney Wins Debate Season
National Journal, by Ron Fournier
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 10/22/2012 11:19:25 PM
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| Mitt Romney wins. That’s not to say he won Monday night’s debate or the presidential campaign, but it’s safe to say he won an important chapter: the debate season. With an acceptable, though far from exceptional, performance in his third and final face-off with President Obama, the former Massachusetts governor became one of the few presidential candidates to make debates matter. Bottom line: Obama won Monday night’s debate on points, benefiting from the blessings of incumbency and hard-world experience. But the challenger held his own, and thus the state of the race is likely unchanged.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
awen, 10/22/2012 11:21:28 PM (No. 8954211)
That has to be the most assinine headline I've ever read.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
L.A. Guy, 10/22/2012 11:21:48 PM (No. 8954213)
WRONG.
Obama's pettiness and petulance LOST the debate.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Coy860, 10/22/2012 11:22:39 PM (No. 8954217)
Romney won by showcasing Obama's numerous foreign policy failures, and offering his OWN plan to again make the USA the superpower that we need to be for world peace and prosperity.
LOVED that Romney called Obama on his "apology tour of the middle east" AMEN.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Not your typical New Yorker, 10/22/2012 11:23:23 PM (No. 8954220)
A little quick on the trigger there Ron, by the morning you will be part of a small group of pundits.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 10/22/2012 11:26:14 PM (No. 8954227)
It must be sad living on their knees as the Lib Media does these days. Obama won nothing. All the dems can do now is cheat, obfuscate and send in their lawyers on November 6th to disrupt the election results.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ColonialAmerican1623, 10/22/2012 11:27:51 PM (No. 8954230)
There are photos of the apology tour and the bowing from the navel. Can't deny that one.
Who was that talking head debating Mitt ?
I would have been so tempted to ask Who are you ? Where have you been for the last four years. The lies about Israel were awful and I hope they call him on it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
tearza, 10/22/2012 11:29:01 PM (No. 8954232)
What Debate were you watching....
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
tangles, 10/22/2012 11:30:36 PM (No. 8954236)
The Marines still use bayonets and horses Mr. President!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Janjan, 10/22/2012 11:31:53 PM (No. 8954242)
Romney won this debate. There is no doubt of it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
King of all trolls, 10/22/2012 11:32:59 PM (No. 8954245)
Sorry, romney lost. The whole premise of this stupid debate - ie that it would exclusively pertain to foreign policy -- did him in. Whoever agreed to the debate format of Lehrer, Crowly townhall and Schieffer foreign policy obviously didn't want the GOP to win. Romney looked petty, and awkward. Imagine Bill Clinton agreeing to a foreign policy debate with CIC Bush. He wasn't stupid enough to agree to such a thing. The incumbent always has a natural advantage in such a debate having actually been CIC. Romney could only have scored points by talking about bowing to dictators, lying to the world about Benghazi, pointing out that O has presided over Muslim brotherhoods conquest of North Africa but instead he was milquetoast, subdued and a loser. Time to buy some property in Switzerland.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
lindamay, 10/22/2012 11:36:49 PM (No. 8954261)
Romney was well prepped. He was gracious, calm, knowledgeable without being offensive. Obama was mean and haughty. Given that this is as much a "visual" test, we can say with confidence that the general public is going to "like" Mr. Romney better than the snarky O.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp, 10/22/2012 11:37:47 PM (No. 8954263)
Immediately after the debate, all of the Democrat-controlled networks had talking heads explaining how Romney lost the debate. Sad to say, many will simply believe those pundits rather than their own lying eyes and ears. I thought Obama was rude, defensive, arrogant and wrong, but what else is new. Romney not only won the debate, he acted like a winner. He was more presidential than the President. And I'm starting to think he will win the election! However, if it becomes certain they can't steal the election, I'm afraid the National Socialists may very well instigate riots in the streets, leading to martial law, and cancelled elections...
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
doublesharp, 10/22/2012 11:42:58 PM (No. 8954270)
10, your name fits. Romney is the next president and he was the only presidential presence on the stage tonight. Obama was again exposed as an ignorant marxist grifter.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Kurto, 10/22/2012 11:49:07 PM (No. 8954285)
0bama went 0 for 3 tonight. He also lied about the sequestration military cuts. He will not be able to hide from that one. Team-0 is out trying to spin it, but the lie was big time!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
bwebb, 10/22/2012 11:51:56 PM (No. 8954292)
The article and its writer are dead wrong. Former Gov Romney won and so did Romney-Ryan and their team. Nov. 6th I will vote for Romney-Ryan since I want a President Romney to select the next two US Justices for the US Supreme Court...Justices likely to be moderate to slightly conservative...a good thing !
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
chillijilli, 10/22/2012 11:53:22 PM (No. 8954296)
I think Luntz made a huge mistake with his focus group. There were a slew of questions about Romney & most of the group appeared to be STRONGLY pro-Romney. Then Luntz suddenly asked, "How many think Obama won the debate on points?" and almost everyone's hand went up---even those who just a few seconds before were obvious Romney voters. I think they just assumed he was still talking about ROMNEY. It would be interesting to see a clip of that.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Malia2012, 10/22/2012 11:55:29 PM (No. 8954298)
I agree with #13. Sad to see the old "milquetoast" pop up again, but I guess it's to be expected when obama is being crushed, day after day. To some, it must depend on what the meaning of "win" is. Because there is no way on this Earth obama came out of this debate any kind of winner. President Ronald Reagan NEVER got down in the mud with Jimmie carter, and neither did Mitt Romney. There was no need. obama buried himself..
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan, 10/22/2012 11:56:03 PM (No. 8954301)
RE #14:
obie's butt print was still warm in his chair and his lackies were trying to spin that one!!! I wonder if he beeps when he backs up that fast!!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
dr fate, 10/23/2012 12:10:39 AM (No. 8954331)
Have to laugh at these milquetoast pundits who believe presidential debates are won or lost on some mythical "point" system. This is not some college debate but one for the presidency. There are no "points."
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
4Justice, 10/23/2012 12:30:43 AM (No. 8954353)
I try to be objective and not let my partisan biases cloud my view. I don't believe that Obama won, but I also wouldn't say that Romney necessarily won either. Obama consistently lied again but unfortunately, most people will not see or acknowledge it. Romney missed a few very good opportunities. Obama was petty and snarky. He interrupted all the time and acted very immature. However, even with his bad behavior and his constant lies, he actually did very well in the eyes of his supporters. Not just because they are partisan but because he said what they expected and wanted to hear. He sounds convincing if you don't really know the facts. If you don't know the truth, he can sound like he really knows what he is talking about. That is too bad. Regardless, I think the author is right about the part that Romney won the entire season. He looked very Presidential and his figures and facts were solid. I just wish he had called Obama on his constant lies and I wish he had pinned him on Benghazi as well as other foreign policy flubs.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
woastew, 10/23/2012 12:43:03 AM (No. 8954368)
O won the debate. R will win on 11/6....
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
earlybird, 10/23/2012 1:06:49 AM (No. 8954404)
Now I remember Ron Fournier. He's the former AP reporter who, along with Beth Fouhy and some others, was such an Obama water carrier during the 2008 campaign. Obots to the core.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
PChristopher, 10/23/2012 2:11:21 AM (No. 8954457)
Apparently, dim Dems qualify winning as acting like an annoying, petulant brat moreso than the other guy. And why not? They were probably all allowed to get away with that tactic when THEY were kids.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
ocjim, 10/23/2012 7:17:55 AM (No. 8954641)
Obama's choice of ''bayonets'' as being outmoded is just the latest example of his basic military ignorance. Recall him repeatedly mispronouncing ''Corpsman'', or showing his ignorance about the true meaning of Memorial Day by saying he saw some of the honored ones in the audience.
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A few hours after Margaret Thatcher´s death on Monday, the snarling deadbeats of the British underclass were gleefully rampaging through the streets of Brixton in South London, scaling the marquee of the local fleapit and hanging a banner announcing, "THE B@&$! IS DEAD." Amazingly, they managed to spell all four words correctly. By Friday, "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead," from "The Wizard of Oz," was the No. 1 download at Amazon UK. Mrs. Thatcher would have enjoyed all this. Her former speechwriter John O´Sullivan recalls how, some years after leaving office, she
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