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Earthquake experts get six years
in jail for failing to warn
people in Italian town
Associated Press, by Annalisa Camilli
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Posted By:Photoonist, 10/22/2012 2:54:28 PM
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L'Aquila, Italy - An Italian court convicted seven scientists and experts of manslaughter on Monday for failing to adequately warn citizens before an earthquake struck central Italy in 2009, killing more than 300 people. The court in L'Aquila also sentenced the defendants to six years in prison. Each one is a member of the national Great Risks Commission. In Italy, convictions aren't definitive until after at least one level of appeals, so it is unlikely any of the defendants would face jail immediately. Scientists worldwide had decried the trial as ridiculous, contending that science has no reliable way of predicting
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Comments:
[w/ Frances D'Emilio] The trial WAS ridiculous and the sentence is absurd. The Italian court has just sentenced these men for NOT being witches who can clearly see the future.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Mushroom, 10/22/2012 3:03:24 PM (No. 8953105)
It is foolish, but it was an attempt to make doomsday prophets to accountable for their rhetoric.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Northcross, 10/22/2012 3:04:33 PM (No. 8953110)
Warning to Italian students: Avoid majors in meteorology, seismology, astronomy or any other scientific pursuit. Failure to accurately predict the future is now a crime.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
revdeppisch316, 10/22/2012 3:05:36 PM (No. 8953111)
On the bright side, there are 7 more job openings in Italy!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
JimS, 10/22/2012 3:07:04 PM (No. 8953118)
And just when is this Italian court going to file charges against the Global Warming Frauds--Mann, Hansen, and others?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
slab, 10/22/2012 3:07:28 PM (No. 8953119)
I can see some use for this verdict as a precedent when we put global warming "scientists" on trial. Or maybe I'll just file a complaint against NOAA.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NorthernDog, 10/22/2012 3:14:36 PM (No. 8953133)
Obama-loving pollsters better watch out. They could be sued for failing to warn his followers about the coming Democrat disaster.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
frenesi1, 10/22/2012 3:15:03 PM (No. 8953135)
As bad as our courts are, they are so much worse in Italy.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Alkyd Resin, 10/22/2012 3:17:21 PM (No. 8953142)
Pretty soon, after some super-duper-triple-overflow legal counsel, all press releases by any Italian expert will contain gobbledy-goof wiggle words such as ''there is a greater than X% of Y occurring but we cannot rule out other uncommon events such as Z1 through Zn''. Which means as much as not saying anything at all but says it oh so legally and regally.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
lazlototh, 10/22/2012 3:37:30 PM (No. 8953186)
#8 you nail it....as a lawyer in our overlawyered society I think maybe if even weather forecasts get lawyered up like prescription drug ads (which have so many warnings about so many remote risks that you can't tell what the real risks are - but at least they make the ads funny unintentionally) people might start screaming ENOUGH!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 10/22/2012 3:42:44 PM (No. 8953193)
I predict a shortage of earthquake experts in Italy for the foreseeable future.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw, 10/22/2012 3:54:02 PM (No. 8953218)
Just predict an earthquake on every fault.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
KingBubo, 10/22/2012 4:06:08 PM (No. 8953246)
Predict an earthquake every day.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
lotsamojo, 10/22/2012 4:09:19 PM (No. 8953250)
And to think I was wondering why Italy was/is going down the tube!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna, 10/22/2012 4:46:44 PM (No. 8953325)
I love my dear Italian friends but it is always emotion first, logic later with them.
I guess it is racist/culturalist to even say that.
But, come on....
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
jimboendaatl, 10/22/2012 6:25:15 PM (No. 8953471)
This must be a joke?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
drkillj0y, 10/22/2012 6:42:30 PM (No. 8953494)
No joke.
There's a researcher in Italy who for years had been monitoring radon gas releases in the area and correlate that with impending quake with a fairly decent accuracy and when his prediction of a 4+ quake on Mar 29 turned out to be just a minor tremor they (the defendants) just sanctioned the guy, labeled him a crackpot, scrubbed his blog, and threaten to jail him. The committee, without having bothered to look at the data the dude had gathered, then told the public it was all good and not to worry because it's all normal.
A 6.2 quake showed up on April 6 and killed 300+
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/06/italy-earthquake-predicted
“Italy’s major risks committee met on 31 March to reassure the city’s population that the seismic activity was nothing to be alarmed about. “The tremors being felt by the population are part of a typical sequence [which is] absolutely normal in a seismic area like the one around L’Aquila,” the civil protection agency said in a statement that evening.”
also:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/5114139/Italian-earthquake-experts-warnings-were-dismissed-as-scaremongering.html
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-04-06/news/17919457_1_earthquake-italian-premier-silvio-berlusconi-predict
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
JHHolliday, 10/22/2012 7:04:49 PM (No. 8953526)
The Italian judicial system is half nuts. At Monza during the 1961 F1 race, Wolfgang Von Trips collided with Jimmy Clark. Von Trips' car trip-hammered into the crowd killing himself and 14 spectators.
Clark was tipped that the Italian Police were going to charge him with manslaughter. The English F1 driver, Graham Hill, flew him out of Italy in his private airplane to avoid being arrested.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals, 10/22/2012 8:07:04 PM (No. 8953629)
In other news, the Italian government now asserts that the Earth is the center of the universe. Heretics will be tried and burned starting next week.
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