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It’s Mormon in America
City Journal [New York], by Joel Kotkin

Original Article

Posted By:supersid, 10/20/2012 9:41:25 AM

Whether or not Mitt Romney makes it to the White House, his candidacy signals that Mormons have arrived in American political life. Just as President Obama’s nomination and election marked a sea change in the country’s tortured racial history, so Romney’s nomination has changed religious boundaries that have persisted for more than 160 years. No religious group has been more persecuted by the U.S. government, or more derided by other faiths present in the country, than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or the LDS Church, as many Mormons refer to it).

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The best advertisement for Mormonism is the kind of society it creates, notes Kotkin, stressing the importance of education, ambition and charitable giving that make Utah a magnet for development and STEM jobs.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: pomom, 10/20/2012 10:08:38 AM     (No. 8947783)

I'll take he Mormon over the moron anyday.


Reply 2 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/20/2012 10:11:43 AM     (No. 8947786)

Right now, its Muslim in America. This election is about love of country - nothing more. Its America in America.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 10/20/2012 10:14:37 AM     (No. 8947795)

I like the part where the author says there was a "sea change" in America's tortured racial history. The change was that blacks and whites are more divided than at any time in American history. There were certainly pockets of violence in slave days (Nat Turner, John Brown) and in civil rights days, but they will pale in comparison to the divide coming between whites and blacks if Obama wins again.


Reply 4 - Posted by: FunOne, 10/20/2012 10:21:48 AM     (No. 8947815)

I am not a Mormon, but I have been involved with the Boy Scouts for over 55 years. The LDS Church encourages their boys to participate in Scouting, and the adults are very active in leadership roles.

I have to wonder what America would be like today if more families were to encourage their children to join organizations that promote such a value system, helping the youth to make responsible decisions.


Reply 5 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/20/2012 10:26:33 AM     (No. 8947821)

After Obama gets through with us we're all going to need magic underwear.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Douglas DC, 10/20/2012 10:34:12 AM     (No. 8947838)

I have serious theological problems with the
Mormon church.However they do not worship Death
like the Muslims who are engaged in a war upon all of US...
Mitt;s got this Evangelical's vote..
Left the Lutherans, now Baptist...


Reply 7 - Posted by: RussVet, 10/20/2012 10:59:34 AM     (No. 8947894)

God help America, we cant survive another four years of this un-American socialist; communist; apparent head of the mooselum brotherhood who covers for the terrorist involved in the horrible Benghazi Deaths. The CIA document just released proves Obozo/ Hilderbeast are criminally negligent and there is no way for them to ever get the innnocent blood off their hands..

Fast&Furious another Obozo/Holder deadly impeachable offense against America and Mexico that result in over 300 lives lost

My instructor in AF Jet pilot training was a Mormon and he was everything that Mitt stands for ... a God loving family man with a concern for his fellow man, hard working,a heart of gold, no cusing, no drinking, no lieing etc Someone a young man of 23 like me looked up to as a role model


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Yosemite Sam, 10/20/2012 11:01:53 AM     (No. 8947902)

A racket and a cult, same as liberalism. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/features/2007/god_is_not_great/mormonism_a_racket_becomes_a_religion.html


Reply 9 - Posted by: MattMusson, 10/20/2012 11:06:16 AM     (No. 8947910)

I think the Mormons are nice, crazy people. They probably think the same thing about me.

Live and Let Live.


Reply 10 - Posted by: VAfreedomluver, 10/20/2012 11:16:41 AM     (No. 8947935)

I'm not a fan of Mormonism, but all the Mormons I've known have been upstanding, trustworthy people.

Frankly, I'm surprised the slime merchants on the left haven't tried to bring up Romney's religion as an issue. Maybe that's coming, now that their appeals to the feminist base are falling flat.


Reply 11 - Posted by: enuf8, 10/20/2012 11:25:57 AM     (No. 8947953)

Dingy Hairy is a Mormon, but I guess there is a black sheep in any community. How long has he been in Congress?


Reply 12 - Posted by: cactus, 10/20/2012 11:28:49 AM     (No. 8947958)

I stopped in a fast-food restaurant for lunch the other day. At the table next to me were a father and his son who appeared to be about 10-11. They were talking and filling out a paper for an organization the boy wanted to join. It may have been the Boy Scouts. I wish every father and son were like these two. They talked about values and what the boy wanted to do as he grew up. It was such a great discussion between the two. The boy then mentioned some things he'd like to do that would prepare him for his mission. As they left the father thanked the boy for having lunch with him and the boy also thanked his father for inviting him. It was so refreshing to see this and I really would like to see the whole family and their interactions. We need more fathers/sons like this. Who is teaching the fatherless boys how to be great men?


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: J Wayne, 10/20/2012 11:29:36 AM     (No. 8947959)

I think of Joe Smith as a false prophet and a fraud. That being said, after attending an evangelical college and briefly teaching at an evangelical high school, I'll take the Mormons I know over the bulk of the Christians I worked with and for any day.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 10/20/2012 11:48:06 AM     (No. 8948008)

I believe the Mormons have long been hoping (and 'praying') to get one of their own elected President of the United States, perhaps hoping they will finally receive the "respect" they feel they deserve. The old saying, "Be careful what you hope for" comes to mind, because not only will the liberal, atheistic, media be all over them because of their uber-morality and belief in a 'god', but now there will be millions of people seeking to know what Mormons really believe (not just practice). That will be a great opportunity for Christian evangelism to occur. It's important for everyone to understand that the Jesus and God of Mormonism are NOT the Jesus and God of Biblical Christianity. Belief in their faux deity does not give salvation. Only faith in the God-man, the second member of the eternal Holy Trinity, who took the form of sinless man to bear mankind's sins in His body on the cross, that Jesus Christ, does that, through the power of the Holy Spirit.

By the way, being called a "religious bigot" is a badge of honor for a practicing Christian.


Reply 15 - Posted by: rubberneck, 10/20/2012 12:02:07 PM     (No. 8948062)

Reed Smoot was elected US Senator from Utah in 1903; he was Mormon. There are currently 12 Mormons serving in Congress, most famously Harry Reid.

I'm Mormon, and I'm Christian. Lots of folks claim that me and my fellow adherents aren't Christian. That's unfortunate. But as long as my Savior Jesus Christ believes I'm a disciple, I really don't care what anybody else thinks.


Reply 16 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 10/20/2012 12:08:21 PM     (No. 8948089)

I've known many Mormons in my life. My sons have Mormon friends. I returned to my Catholic faith about ten years ago, so I have major theological differences with the Mormons, of course. However, Mitt's got my vote and Mormons in my community have my support. Here on the Northern Plains, their church isn't as common as in California, but I see missionaries around once in awhile and I'm glad for their presence. They add a positive influence wherever they go.


Reply 17 - Posted by: LouD, 10/20/2012 12:18:28 PM     (No. 8948104)

I'm willing to bet that neither of those two dead, nor any of the seven wounded in Chicago last night, were Mormons.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: dittohead, 10/20/2012 12:39:30 PM     (No. 8948139)

My beliefs are very different from the Mormon beliefs - but every Mormon I know is an outstanding citizen and great contributor to society.

To be honest I am voting not on social issues (although I care very deeply about the state of our society) as much as economic issues this election - if we don't turn this ship around financially and grow more jobs (and I am not sure we can, really) we will not have to worry about the religion of our neighbors or elected leaders.


Reply 19 - Posted by: redink, 10/20/2012 1:18:38 PM     (No. 8948211)

I'm a Christian next door to BYU for the last five years. It's a great place to raise my kids on my own. I've had to work hard to keep things going and stay off welfare, and having a safe and sane environment to do it in is greatly appreciated.
Mormons have got the whole clean living and good works thing down pat. It certainly does fulfill the laws of Moses and brings about a blessing on earth, though it doesn't answer the question of eternity.

I've experienced niceness here...though no one will allow us into their hearts or homes.
There is a great deal of hypocrisy, arrogance and favoritism...not much different than what I've experienced within the evangelical community. It's called sin. Everyone is infected.
Mitt may be decent, hard-working fellow who has the smarts to keep America working after all the damage Obama has done, but he's no god...no one is or ever will be.

Men are brought forth in history to change things, but it is the prayers of repentance and the awakening of truth in the heart of the people that bring them forth. That is the reason I have hope. Mitt will be a good leader for a necessary time in our history.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Harlowe, 10/20/2012 2:07:56 PM     (No. 8948285)

#6 – The liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) does NOT represent all Lutherans. The ELCA is considered “Liberal Protestant.” The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS) and the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Church (WELS) are conservative “Confessional Lutheran.”


Reply 21 - Posted by: IdahoSky, 10/20/2012 2:50:01 PM     (No. 8948337)

I'll second the OP and the author. The best advertisement for Mormonism is the kind of society it creates.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Not gonna take it anymore, 10/26/2012 10:42:53 PM     (No. 8965941)

"I'm willing to bet that neither of those two dead, nor any of the seven wounded in Chicago last night, were Mormons."

How do you know? Did you read their dog tags?

Many Mormons serve in the military just as do Catholics, and Lutherans, and Pentacostals and Jews and damn near any religion we can think of.

Snarky is for the Dems.


   

 



 

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