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What really went wrong in Benghazi
New York Daily News, by Editorial

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/20/2012 5:46:02 AM

The intelligence and security failings that surrounded the murders of four Americans in Libya are coming into focus as far more fundamental than depicted in jousting between Republican Mitt Romney and President Obama. (Snip)The President and Secretary of State Clinton said they take full responsibility — but for what, exactly, is unclear. So, too, the question of how much of the onus Obama intends to bear. After saying he accepts the burdens of office, he tried to skate by the mortal debacle by declaring, “When four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.” No, it’s an outrage that demands accountability.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Robinsolana, 10/20/2012 6:40:08 AM     (No. 8947277)

There is a deep and unacknowledged Obama political motivation behind Obama's stubborn weeks of lies about Benghazi.
The same thing is true about the Al Qaeda linked 'work place violence' in Ft Hood Texas, that left 14 dead.

Obama believes that he and his teleprompter, with the aid of the complicit media, can simply change reality.
Imagine a mob of outraged movie critics in Benghazi.
Ignore that 'terrorism' is still a threat.
Just ban the word 'terrorism'.
Never mention the words Al Qaeda.

There is an incredible deadly arrogance to Obama.
Obama demands that you believe his lies.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/20/2012 6:49:33 AM     (No. 8947286)

They 'take responsibility'?
Simple. Then - resign!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/20/2012 6:57:10 AM     (No. 8947310)

For Obama to trivialize this gross dereliction of duty and incompetence by saying it's "not optimal" ... well, I just hope Mittens throws that in his face big time.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/20/2012 7:13:09 AM     (No. 8947350)

You know the problem with Obama and terrorists? They cling to their Koran and their guns.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: triggerberg, 10/20/2012 7:18:18 AM     (No. 8947364)

Re: #4 - Now ther's a phrase that bears repeating!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jgat, 10/20/2012 7:49:49 AM     (No. 8947403)

Tragically the threat reports were correct. In hindsight the threat was real and imminent. In reluctant defense of the Administration one should point out that regular reading of intelligence reports will cause the reader to down play threats as there is a steady stream of pending attacks that never materialize. It is easy to condemn after the fact when the one among many threats materialize.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: wyspen, 10/20/2012 7:55:24 AM     (No. 8947415)

I wonder how many muslim deaths it takes before it's optimal?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 10/20/2012 7:56:02 AM     (No. 8947417)

There have been references made to our Embassy flag - the American flag - being the last flag flying. Everyone else had pulled out.

Ponder the symbolism of this.....

America has ALWAYS been the last to leave, in any war or situation. First in, last out. And now -

Because of Obama and his crew, the American flag is down, al qaida's is up in Benghazi, and all because he wanted to play nice with the islamists.... thinking they believed he 'understood' them and would play nice in return.

So... just how well DOES he understand them? He allowed our ambassador - HIS OWN APPOINTEE - to be rendered defenseless in a highly volatile location with increasing risk and danger, and as a consequence four Americans are dead ('bumps in the road', 'not optimal') due to his carelessness, and the American flag is down and gone. Burned.

Is this the future he wants for America?

I think we all know by now the answer to that.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/20/2012 8:27:10 AM     (No. 8947484)

On Fox last night, Bret Baier had an outstanding special that recreated the exact sequence of events in Benghazi. It included interviews with the former head of our security detail that was pulled out of there before the attack.

The inescapable conclusion of this special report is that it was a planned terrorist attack, that the State Department was negligent in removing the security detail, and that multiple cables requesting help during the attack were ignored too long to save them.

Bottom line...the malfeasance here is so serious that the gratuitous and very late acceptance of blame is insufficient. Heads should roll. This was dereliction of duty of the highest order. Both the Secretary of State and the President are unfit to serve.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Summernite, 10/20/2012 8:42:42 AM     (No. 8947516)

The Obama Administration's story surrounding the Benghazi Terrorist Attack has more holes than swiss cheese. When you look at the timeline presented by Ambassador Stevens and the Security Team in Libya, one has to wonder if that obscured movie trailer wasn't planted by the Administration as cover.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/20/2012 8:48:05 AM     (No. 8947531)

Obie thought he had the ear of his muslim buddies in Benghazi. He thought that his opportunistic foray to take out Kadaffi would buy him easy political points and another great speech behind the teleprompter.

While Nixon had to resign due to an 18-minute gap on a white house tape, not likely to happen to Obie because he has only a few months left in this job. After Romney is inaugurated in January, these Benghazi murders and the failings under Obie's administration will continue I suspect.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 10/20/2012 9:03:09 AM     (No. 8947576)

Be careful what you wish for.

Biden is next in line followed by Boehner Inouye,Hillary,Geitner, Panetta and Holder.

I can't wait until we get a new cast of characters

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/20/2012 9:05:10 AM     (No. 8947584)

If you missed this last night, grab a second cup and settle in. Bret Baier did a great job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MIAE6vLct-0

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Reply 14 - Posted by: altoona, 10/20/2012 9:06:34 AM     (No. 8947586)

Perfect, #4.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: maryc, 10/20/2012 9:06:57 AM     (No. 8947588)

This inconvenient reality does not play well for his reelection. Let us pray that he does not find a way to wag the dog and set up some sort of ill conceived attack to make him look strong.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: synchronicity, 10/20/2012 9:19:59 AM     (No. 8947616)

#6's reference to relying on intelligence reports reminded me of my times in the Middle East (Egypt and Saudi Arabia) - any American who has ever lived in these countries or spent any amount of time visiting them knows beyond all doubt two things:

1. When the locals get themselves worked up any American is potential game to be hunted down by inflamed mobs.
2. The only way to be safe from #1 is to have U.S. military protection, preferably Marines, or to get out until things calm down. "Local" security will, and does, invariably join the mob as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

The fact that our State Department doesn't know what travelers to these regions know has resulted in unnecessary deaths and a Middle East about to blow sky high. The fact that Obama either thought or pretended that a youtube video was the sole cause of this incident is proof that he is completely out of touch with how the world works and is quite capable of letting his misunderstanding lead to multiple wars and thousands of deaths rather than admit he is wrong. The U.S. economy is another fine example of his ignorance coupled with arrogance. Typhoid Mary has nothing on Bubonic Barack.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Throwback, 10/20/2012 9:24:20 AM     (No. 8947630)

#6, you might be correct if not for:

a. The administration's involvement in destabilizing Libya by working to overthrow their government, without a thought as to who would fill the power vacuum.

b. Supplying weapons to our enemies.

c. The fact that the Ambassador (who was on the ground in Libya) had specifically requested increased security.

d. All of the above, squared, in light of the anniversary of 911.

Other than that, yeah. There are always threats. Nothing to see here, move along. I think I see a "binder" over by "Big Bird."

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Reply 18 - Posted by: greggojo, 10/20/2012 9:24:38 AM     (No. 8947631)

From a post at WSJ:

"Two years previously, Obama appointed Tom Donilon as Chair of the NSC to replace Marine Gen Jim Jones. Mr. Donilon, close to Joe Biden, was an attorney rich in experience of directing public retlations for governing bodies. No particular military, diplomatic, nor intelligence background, he is selected to lead the NSC. a White House organ, to whom the disinterested President Obama has delegated a good deal of his authority to direct the nation's security .....remember he did not attend the majority of the daily intelligence briefings. Engagement in Libya was attributed to be a victory for Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Smantha Powers at the NSC level.

In two years (appointed October 8, 2010) Tom Donilon appears to have been effective....suddenly leaks of classified information flattering the campaigning President appear....such as the triumphalism of Osama Bin Laden's assassination and the details of stuxnet cyberwar. Robert Gates in retiring from leading the DoD was quoted as telling Tom Donilon 'to shut the ......up'.

Now the stiffing of the bad news from Benghazi. Much of the difficulty in ferreting out the details of the Benghazi cover-up is failing to understand just how pervasive the NSC has been in manipulating official news releases. In autocracies, this role is reserved for the Minister of Propaganda....and Americans are not use to being so dishonestly treated.

Not an inadvertent 'screw-up' as Obama is now saying."

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Reply 19 - Posted by: stryker714, 10/20/2012 9:25:23 AM     (No. 8947633)

That's a pretty gentle assessment, #6. Just say "no" to more affirmative action forgiveness for administration dereliction. No more softballs! There was plenty of time for the US to take action, once the violence started in Benghazi.

The question still remains why this all unfolded the way it did. I could imagine as many as 4-5 ulterior motives along with the possibility of just general dereliction. It's hard to pinpoint.

The real question, the rub is, why did the key administration "players" call it a night, go to bed and allow those poor Americans to perish like that? It'll all come out in the wash eventually.

We do NOT leave Americans hanging like that, donkey swinging in the breeze, for target practice! How about that one brave US soldier who returned in a humvee again and again and again under heavy fire, to rescue that squad that had been hit in Iraq?
That kind of bravery is beyond this president.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: OhMy, 10/20/2012 9:34:49 AM     (No. 8947665)

Obama is not capable of learning from experience. The word enemy is not in his vocabulary. Muslim brotherhood and Al Queda are enemies and prove it every day yet Obama clings to the ideas he had in his inaugural speech where we show them we mean no harm, open our hand and they will unclench their fist! He is far more worried by domestic political adversaries than foreign enemies. With this mindset in our C in C there is no point in having any military. That is why it is the only branch of government to ever be cut under Obama. Obama is what went wrong in Benghazi!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/20/2012 9:38:58 AM     (No. 8947681)

See #14 for the link to Bret Baier's excellent program on Benghazi which aired last night. And see #9 for a summary of the program.

We recorded it on DVR and will view it again.

Every thinking person should see this very well done, very informative production which chronicles the Benghazi tragedy so well.

Don't miss it.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: fed-up, 10/20/2012 9:40:55 AM     (No. 8947687)

I don't think there is anything he can do now that will not look desperate to show strength.
There are too many facts already out there, and testimony under oath before congress. We all saw the denials and lies on TV.. this isn't a story with facts that need to come out.. investigations that need to complete in a year or so, that will show details that can exonerate him. Kind of justice in a way. He got to power by using politics instead of having a love of country. And the one thing he didn't want to really deal with, is going to be the thing that brings him down.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/20/2012 9:42:37 AM     (No. 8947700)

#18, link for that WSJ quoted material?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/20/2012 10:56:00 AM     (No. 8947884)

"What really went wrong in Benghazi"

What went wrong begins with NOT POSTING ARMED MARINES at embassy installations in a jihadist zone.

That kind of "world view" is suicidal.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 10/20/2012 11:15:11 AM     (No. 8947932)

What really went wrong in Bengazi is that we shouldn't have been in Bengazi or any other part of Libya in the first place. We foolishly helped replace a stable- although unfriendly- government in Libya with chaos... and that without approval by our Congress.

There is a moral here somewhere.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Coach Springer, 10/20/2012 11:25:10 AM     (No. 8947952)

The article starts by mentioing intellegience failings, but when they warn the administration several days in advance that something appears to be planned, when the leader of Alqueda publicly calls for it, that Libya is Al Queda trouble, that there have been other attacks in Libya ... that's quite a bit of intelligence success and a lot failure by The Won who cares about other things. For cryng out loud, if you read the newspapers,you knew they were going to try something.

Is the accepted requirement that the CIA identify the time, place, people and particulars of attack before Obama has to do something? I reject the failed intelligence narrative as any kind of excuse or reason whatsoever.

It would appear that if you're in Libya and have at least recently been trying to do what the U.S has been asking - you can be Quadaffi or you can be Stevens - but if Obama's involved, you're dying from an Islamic bayonet where the sun don't shine. The fruits of Obama policy are something to behold.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/20/2012 11:35:04 AM     (No. 8947972)

This really goes to the heart of what America needs in the Commander in Chief. It's not someone who just looks cool in a leather bombardier jacket with the presidential seal on it. What is needed is someone with both the judgment and the readiness to act quickly when American lives are in danger. And clearly, this series of events over several weeks confirms that Obama has failed his principal duties as Commander in Chief.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 10/20/2012 11:48:46 AM     (No. 8948011)

I've been following this tragedy very closely. Allow me to offer a thought-provoking timeline:

* Sep 5 - An Egyptian TV station shows a segment of the anti-Muhammed video.
* Sep 11 - Before the attack on the Cairo embassy even begins, the U.S. embassy puts out a despicable apology e-mail apologizing for the video.
* Romney responded to that e-mail before the news of Benghazi even broke
* The administration caused the e-mail to disappear down the memory hole almost immediately
* When Benghazi happened, the administration immediately - AND INTENTIONALLY - connected it to the video.
*This accomplished at least three goals:
1. It allowed Obama to once again come down on the side, and in defense of, Islam.
2. In hyping the spontaneous mob story, it covered the Administration's specious claim that al-Qaeda was "decimated" and "on the run."
3. It attempted to cover for the disgusting lack of security in Libya.
* Obama chose to treat this as a criminal issue. His DOJ ordered the FBI to investigate. It took more than two weeks before the FBI even got to Benghazi
* This was a deliberate delaying tactic to push the issue beyond the election.
* Clinton did a similar delaying move when the U.S.S. Cole was attacked on Oct 12,2000, to help Al Gore.
http://tinyurl.com/8ufznsr

I am no fan of radical Islam, but I have serious misgivings about sending a homosexual (Libya) and a female (Egypt) to represent U.S. interests in these homophobic and misogynist countries. [Note that the female U.S. Ambassador was not even in the Cairo Embassy on Sept 11, 2012. I wonder why not.]

Even those of us with the strongest stomachs are going to hurl when the truth about this administration finally comes out. AND IT WILL.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/20/2012 11:56:18 AM     (No. 8948035)

What really went wrong in Benghazi is that in 2008 the American Idol Addicted Takers went to the polls and elected a Quasi-Muslim Marxist who has been shoveling Bravo Sierra down our throats, and playing golf for the last three+ years.

I want to know how much information about the previous terrorist attacks at Benghazi was reported in the Daily Briefs that the Marxist ignored, and instead, spent time on the golf course, and being feted by Ghetto Thug Rappers, with his hand out, begging for money so he can get reelected and finish the job of destroying the nation.

I want to know exactly what intelligence the Marxist was ignoring that got four Americans killed in Benghazi.

It seems to me, that's question that's not being asked. What was it? 46% of the daily briefs that 0b@$tard ignored?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: NotaBene, 10/20/2012 11:59:45 AM     (No. 8948052)

Al-Quaeda has flown their black flag over our embassies in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya. Gaza, West Bank and Syria in flames. Iran making a bomb. Remember the unpunished Somali Pirates? Obama is good for Muslims. Vote for the American this year.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 10/20/2012 11:59:54 AM     (No. 8948054)

What went wrong in Benghazi was Obama's anti-American Middle East Foreign policy. He encouraged the Arab spring which was suppose to bring 'peace' and 'Democracy' throughout the Middle East. The problem is they are replacing Arab dictators with Islamic Extremists who are no better than the dictators. On the eleventh anniversery of 9/11, Americans were murdered, and the Benghazi embassy went up in flames. When that happened, Obama's anti-American foreign policy went up in flames, but Obama does not want to abandon it, and he is lying through his teeth to protect it and himself.

There was probably no security at the embassy because our anti-American state department was more sympathetic to our enemies than our own people, and thought Americans either should not be there or were safe if they kept a low profile.

This is Barack Obama's foreign policy in action.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 10/20/2012 12:04:16 PM     (No. 8948076)

What really went wrong was that in 08 O-BIG-EARS was bought and put into the people of the United States white house. Thats where it all started going wrong. How about that affirmative actions?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/20/2012 12:11:15 PM     (No. 8948096)

I think Romney will nail Obama Monday night over the fact he has missed half of his intelligence briefings. People will relate to this. He should be painted as the lazy and detached person he is.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: mindyourbubble, 10/20/2012 12:25:06 PM     (No. 8948115)

What really went wrong?
Obama was asleep on watch and didn't wake up until 14 days after the murders in Lybia...in the Rose Garden

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Reply 35 - Posted by: zapper1979, 10/20/2012 12:26:36 PM     (No. 8948119)

When Oblamer & PIAPS, the 2 most corrupt polititions of our generation are in charge bad stuff will happen. I hope Mitt ask him why pResident defacto Jarrett has SS protection & ambassador Stevens was given squat although he was begging for it for months up until the day he was murdered.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: dotonbut, 10/20/2012 12:31:14 PM     (No. 8948127)

Re #6
But in how many countries does the US have embassies where we have recently been involved militarily and where the local government’s authority is tenuous at best?

Our standing security in Libya should have at least approximated that of Afghanistan or Iraq.


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Reply 37 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/20/2012 12:42:02 PM     (No. 8948145)

It seems to me that everyone at this "Board" is smarter than the entire New York Daily News Editorial Board put together --or maybe we're all just more honest.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: strike3, 10/20/2012 1:04:15 PM     (No. 8948186)

They can study this situation to death but it has been obvious since 9/11 what al Qaeda did. They mounted a coordinated attack using heavy weapons and they accomplished their objective, which was destruction and murder of American officials and security people.

As for what the U.S. Government did, it will turn out to be one version or another of extremely stupid foreign policy that will be a contender for the Jimmy Carter Charlie Foxtrot award. That's all we need to know.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: BetseyRoss, 10/20/2012 1:23:32 PM     (No. 8948221)

Right on, right on, right on #25. Perhaps Monday night's debate will shed more light on what the Once thinks about this. His appearances all over TV on Letterman and those other "intellegent" programs does show how he likes to appear intellegent and in charge. Ugh.

We found out in the last encounter with Obama that Romney has a handle on economics and how it works. Obama's economic thinking is absolutely wrong and naive'

His foreign policy suffers for the same reason(and also Hillary for promting it) His policy was so bad that he had to lie about it and then sent others out to do the same.

Any type of October Surprise will fall with a thud because no one believes him or thinks his policies are successful. Is there anyone left on the planet that thinks he is competent? Not many.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 10/20/2012 1:59:23 PM     (No. 8948269)

Øbama thought by keeping our ambassador in Benghazi defenseless would show our enemies we meant no harm and they should be nice to us. He wants to apply this same crazy thinking to all Americans by gutting our nuclear arsenal and leaving us defenseless to our enemies and they will be nice to us? We need to get this crazy man out of our White House ASAP.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Photoonist, 10/20/2012 3:01:24 PM     (No. 8948365)

They are taking responsibility by lying about what happened and how they responded. That's NOT taking responsibility. That's not even saying ''the check is in the mail."

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Reply 42 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/20/2012 3:44:21 PM     (No. 8948427)

Program Note:

Bret Baier's DEATH AND DECEIT IN BENGHAZI special will be aired again tomorrow night (Sunday) on Fox News Channel. Check your local listings for the time.

Our listing in the Greater Los Angeles area shows it at 10 PM PT.

One of the most informative hours you will ever spend.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: jackburton, 10/20/2012 4:32:27 PM     (No. 8948512)

Have you seen the video about the 'deer crossing' sign? Maybe if we just move the sign to a better place, the deer will cross elsewhere.

Right?

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 10/20/2012 4:42:11 PM     (No. 8948533)

I'm thinking that on Monday night we just might see the fulfillment of our dear Aggie57's prediction: Obama's fall will be like a wine glass shattering on a marble floor.

That is my prayer.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: TrustButVerify, 10/20/2012 8:41:01 PM     (No. 8948977)

There is something very sinister in play here. Did Obama make a private agreement with The Muslim Brotherhood before intervening in Libya? The whole intervention in Libya struck me as bizarre from the very beginning. He's had their leadership at the White House for God sake. WHY would any American president do such a thing? They hate and want to kill us as the four dead Americans know only too well. We need to start connecting the dots starting at the beginning of our involvment with this third world cess-pool country.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: thekidsmom66, 10/20/2012 8:50:48 PM     (No. 8948997)

Actually, Romney should NOT latch on to the "not optimal" thing. When put in context, Obama was responding to Jon Stewart's comments about "optimal security", or some such. Obama's response was kind of sarcastic, "well, when you have 4 Americans dead, it's not optimal". If Romney were to use it, it would end up backfiring because the context makes it clear that, FOR ONCE, he wasn't trying to be flip or callous. I'll try to find the context again....

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Reply 47 - Posted by: thekidsmom66, 10/20/2012 8:56:07 PM     (No. 8949005)

Here it is.

Jon Stewart: "Because I would say, even you would admit, it was not the optimal response, at least to the American people, as far as all of us being on the same page," he said.

"Here's what I'll say," Obama responded. "If four Americans get killed, it's not optimal. We're going to fix it."




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Reply 48 - Posted by: JimboUSN, 10/21/2012 5:25:11 AM     (No. 8949387)

Also watch Judge Jeanine. She had a host of military experts, previous station chiefs and the CIA on. SOP and methods debunk Obama admin assertions.

Sadly, we could've had the cavalry there in a matter of a few hours...and the drone that was there while it all went down likely could have suppressed the Jihadists until military Rapid Response got there. The outrage also includes why generals, the CIA director (Petraeus) and so many others are mute.

Heads must roll over this debacle...Watergate pales in comparison. Obama lied; people died!

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Hillary Clinton and her friends in the media have been testing messages for her expected presidential campaign. The case for her will be built on four pillars: that allegations of her corruption are unfair; that she is highly accomplished; that she is above partisanship; and that she is a woman. The first three are dubious and the fourth will matter less than you may think. Do you remember Webb Hubbell, the McDougals, the missing Rose Law firm billing records, Travelgate, or Hillary’s surprise acumen at high-risk commodities trading? Super PACs and other groups will remind voters of all of these case

Advice to Democrats: Don´t say ´recovery´
Associated Press, by David Espo    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 10:15:20 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON - Election-year memo to Democratic candidates: Don´t talk about the economic recovery. It´s a political loser. So say Democratic strategists in a blunt declaration that such talk skips over "how much trouble people are in, and doesn´t convince them that policymakers really understand or are even focusing on the problems they continue to face." In addition, Stan Greenberg, James Carville and others wrote that in head-to-head polling tests the mere mention of the word "recovery" is trumped by a Republican assertion that the Obama administration has had six years to get the economy moving and its policies haven´t worked. Coincidentally or not,

Iran Gets an Unlikely Visitor, an American
Plane, but No One Seems to Know Why
New York Times, by Michael Corkery*    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 10:12:11 AM     Post Reply
President Obama has warned that Iran is not open for business, even as the United States has loosened some of its punishing economic sanctions as part of an interim nuclear pact. Yet, on Tuesday morning, Iran had an unlikely visitor: a plane, owned by the Bank of Utah, a community bank in Ogden that has 13 branches throughout the state. Bearing a small American flag on its tail, the aircraft was parked in a highly visible section of Mehrabad Airport in Tehran. But from there, the story surrounding the plane, and why it was in Iran — where all but a few

Cost of Treatment May Influence Doctors
New York Times, by Andrew Pollack    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 10:07:22 AM     Post Reply
Saying they can no longer ignore the rising prices of health care, some of the most influential medical groups in the nation are recommending that doctors weigh the costs, not just the effectiveness of treatments, as they make decisions about patient care. The shift, little noticed outside the medical establishment but already controversial inside it, suggests that doctors are starting to redefine their roles, from being concerned exclusively about individual patients to exerting influence on how health care dollars are spent. “We understand that we doctors should be and are stewards of the larger society as well as of the patient in

The Bigger They Are
Washington Free Beacon, by Matthew Continetti    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 5:11:40 AM     Post Reply
Hillary Clinton may end up deciding she wants to spend the 935 days until election 2016 making corporate speeches and spoiling her grandchild. Recent events have exposed weaknesses in Clinton’s supposedly impregnable armor, gaps through which a Democratic or Republican challenger could damage, perhaps even defeat her. The bad headlines to which she has been subjected are enough to make anyone—anyone who isn’t a Clinton—think twice about running for president. Look at the polls. This week’s Fox News poll has Clinton’s favorable rating at its lowest point in six years. She is at 49 percent favorable, 45 percent unfavorable—similar to her

Obama offers new insults,
then laments gridlock
Daily Caller, by Neil Munro    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 5:09:52 AM     Post Reply
President Barack Obama used his Thursday press conference to diagnose Republicans as fear-mongering, spiteful, obstinate, petulant and obstructive, as he again declared mission-accomplished in his effort to put the nation’s health-care under government control. “I recognize that their party is going through the stages of grief — anger and denial and all that stuff — and we’re not at acceptance yet,” Obama told reporters, where he announced that his Obamacare network had claimed 8 million subscribers. Obama coupled his passive-voice diatribe with his more-in-sorrow-than-anger promise that he “would much prefer a constructive conversation with the Republicans about how do we get some

´Deeply Ashamed´ Ferry Captain
Among First to Abandon Ship
ABC News, by Joohee Cho & Dan Good    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:59:40 AM     Post Reply
The captain of a ferry that sank off the coast of South Korea Wednesday, leaving nearly 300 people missing, is under investigation as a possible criminal and was one of the first people to escape the doomed vessel, Coast Guard officials said. Lee Joon-seok, 69, left the ferry on a lifeboat 32 minutes after reporting an accident, officials said. The captain appeared on Korean television today, his face covered by a gray hoodie. “I am really sorry and deeply ashamed,” he said, as he was being questioned at the Mokpo Coast Guard Office. It´s unclear which of his actions could be considered criminal.

CBO shows it’s Paul Ryan 4,
Obama 0 on budget targeting
Washington Times, by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:54:22 AM     Post Reply
Soon after the tea party era began in Congress in 2011, President Obama and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan each released their budgets, proposing how much the government should tax and spend over the rest of the decade. Three years into that budget showdown, Mr. Ryan and his Republican colleagues are winning. Government spending has slowed, and Mr. Obama’s plans for higher taxes and higher spending have fallen by the wayside. “The discretionary spending has in fact been driven by Republicans post-2010 clamping down,” said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office who is now president of the

Those ‘rogue’ agents
New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton
PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

For Obamacare, What Counts As Success?
New York Times, by Ross Douthat    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:23:43 AM     Post Reply
Ezra Klein, in his new capacity as one of the impresarios behind Vox, has written a pair of attention-grabbing posts — here, and then here — defending the proposition that Obamacare has, in some sense, “won,” and that conservatives who can’t come to terms with that victory can’t come to terms with reality itself. Reading them, it struck me that this argument would benefit from laying down some specific markers for the near future, because Klein seems to move back and forth between two definitions of success. At times, as when he writes that Obamacare “has won its survival” and



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Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

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Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
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Students Demand Acknowledgement of
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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Michelle Obama Riverdances
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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
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Glen Campbell has been
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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
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Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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