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The Year the Debates Mattered
Wall Street Journal, by Peggy Noonan
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Posted By:garnet, 10/19/2012 8:37:54 AM
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| The presidential debates this year have been more consequential than such debates have ever been. They've been historic, shifting the mood and trajectory of the race. They've been revealing of the personalities and approaches of the candidates. And they've produced a new way in which winners and losers are judged. It's a two-part wave now, the debate and the postdebate, and you have to win both. In a way this has always been true. That's why there are spin rooms. But this year it's all more so—more organic, more spontaneous and powerful. And everyone knows what spin is.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
hotcorner, 10/19/2012 8:46:11 AM (No. 8945144)
Dear Peggy, Romney and Ryan won the post debates because they won their debates. period.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Bubbasuncle, 10/19/2012 8:59:36 AM (No. 8945181)
Trouble is Peggy, you no longer matter and yet you continue to bother us.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
gartrell bibberts, 10/19/2012 9:04:07 AM (No. 8945187)
How quickly she forgets Reagan/Carter debate.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Malia2012, 10/19/2012 9:08:02 AM (No. 8945193)
By coincidence Peggy, this is also the same year that whatever you write, or say, STOPPED mattering. Go away..
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Maybeth, 10/19/2012 9:27:17 AM (No. 8945251)
I broke my own policy of avoiding all things Noonan and read the article .... and I am left with the feeling that Peggy is disappointed there is so much post-debate chat. Since she clearly felt Obama was the hands-down winner of debate #2, she is seemingly appalled that Obama's and Crowley's lies and ploys remain very much a topic of discussion.
Note to Peggy: Gone are the days when Old Media is able to dictate how people should react and which falsehoods they should ignore.
.... Americans are finally awakening to the schemes and subterfuge which define today's press and leftist journalism, and voters are not amused about having been manipulated.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Whamdbambam, 10/19/2012 9:27:24 AM (No. 8945253)
Treacly drek.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Wetlandz, 10/19/2012 9:33:00 AM (No. 8945274)
Peggy your columns start off stronger but always end up mush meal at the end.
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Fiesta del sol, 10/19/2012 9:39:02 AM (No. 8945291)
Agree with some of the other posters, I have no idea what Peggy's point is/was. For one thing, Obama didn't "win" the debate on Tuesday. Maybe Peggy just can't bring herself to believe or at least admit in print that she picked a loser in 2008.
Being on the bandwagon means it's hard to get off....
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
larry_bud_melman, 10/19/2012 9:49:27 AM (No. 8945320)
2004 - The year Miss Peggy last mattered.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
fljack, 10/19/2012 9:50:26 AM (No. 8945327)
Noonan, Will and others of this ilk are on my do-not-bother-to-read list. Elitist republican of the limousine liberal mindset are only used for show by the MSM. MSM can then claim to be balanced.
BS.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Robinsolana, 10/19/2012 9:52:30 AM (No. 8945332)
Noonan reflects the Beltway A-list cocktail party circuit. The little Beltway bubble, if you like.
We have moved beyond that.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
MisterDickens, 10/19/2012 9:54:40 AM (No. 8945341)
Peg doesn't seem to have many supporters on the forum this morning, or all year for that matter. Wonder why, Peggy? Go back and read your articles for the past 12 months. It will be as painful for you as it was for us.
Sell by date is: 12/31/11, at best.
No matter what you do, Peg, we won't forget being spat upon. Sorry that you must occasionally share an elevator with people of our kind.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
killerbee, 10/19/2012 9:59:21 AM (No. 8945357)
Retire Peggy. You're over. *yawn*
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Penelope@Work, 10/19/2012 10:06:37 AM (No. 8945384)
Peggy used to be a must-read for me but she lost it after 9/11 and never recovered. After she went to mspmsnbcBS, she became unreadable and unwatchable. She just doesn't matter anymore.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
wi cynic, 10/19/2012 10:49:33 AM (No. 8945485)
The "post debate" is a lost cause for liars, because they can't control all the people and organizations that research out what they said during the debate. That's why Biden lost his debate and why Obama lost his second debate - what they said was put under a microscope with no filters to protect them, and what they said was found to be garbage.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
TulsaTowner, 10/19/2012 10:52:39 AM (No. 8945495)
I still contend that the Bush-Gore debate revealed the condition of Gore's so-called "mind". As disappointing as Bush was at times, where in heaven's name would we be today if Gore actually won Florida???
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
earlybird, 10/19/2012 10:56:49 AM (No. 8945505)
I skimmed the first part which was Peg-fluff and finally found this:
The president was trying to look strong and commanding, to take control. Did he look strong, or did he look like a hack, like a tough Chicago pol who isn't quite big enough to be where he is?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bullhead, 10/19/2012 12:26:55 PM (No. 8945744)
Posters, thank you for saving me the time I might have spent reading Noonan. (This is not sarcasm.)
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
JoniTx, 10/19/2012 12:31:47 PM (No. 8945759)
She's longing for the 'good old days', back when the leftist press could control the news.
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President Obama’s second term is off to a rocky start, but that should not obscure for Republicans the fact that their party is facing many well-documented problems. They include everything from campaign mechanics and overly long presidential primaries to changing demographics and mediocre candidates. But there’s something more fundamental at play. The GOP doesn’t have a compelling, or even a particularly identifiable, governing vision. That may be sufficient for a congressional party committed to blocking President Obama’s agenda, but it’s not sufficient for a national party that wants to once again win presidential elections.
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"The whole narrative confirms that while the radical motivations of the Tsarnaev brothers — and perhaps, it remains to be seen, some of their training — came from international jihadist movements, the bombing was also the product of family dysfunction, youthful nihilism, and a pattern of low-level crimes escalating into a very major one.” — Boston Globe editorial May 3. Dear Officer Krupke — of “West Side Story” fame — please call your office. Clearly these boys just have a social disease, so take ’em to a social worker. It takes a lot for our competitors on Morrissey Boulevard
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President Obama’s press conference in the rain was not a success, if by success, his supporters would mean an event which convinces anyone who doesn’t work for him that he’s getting ahead of the scandal deluge. The sight of a Marine holding an umbrella over his head only added to the weirdness of the event. So what did we learn? 1. He has full confidence in Attorney General Eric Holder, the man who purportedly recused himself (whenever) without putting it in writing (whatever). When asked about the untrammeled snooping on Associated Press reporters and editors,
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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell
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Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/17/2013 5:05:46 PM
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Appearing on Laura Ingraham‘s radio show this afternoon, Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume suggested some Republicans were “stupid” to consider impeachment of President Obama a viable response to the ongoing scandals regarding the Benghazi attacks, the IRS targeting of conservative groups, and the Justice Department secret seizure of AP phone records. Likely referring to some GOP lawmakers, including Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) who has put impeachment on the table as an option for handling the Benghazi fallout, Ingraham asked Hume to comment on how some Republican leaders have “ran to the microphone” to suggest removal
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Associated Press, by Fabiola Sanchez and Karl Ritter
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Posted By: PageTurner- 5/16/2013 1:22:12 PM
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CARACAS, Venezuela — First milk, butter, coffee and cornmeal ran short. Now Venezuela is running out of the most basic of necessities — toilet paper. Blaming political opponents for the shortfall, as it does for other shortages, the embattled socialist government says it will import 50 million rolls to boost supplies. That was little comfort to consumers struggling to find toilet paper on Wednesday. "This is the last straw," said Manuel Fagundes, a shopper hunting for tissue in downtown Caracas. "I´m 71 years old and this is the first time I´ve seen this." One supermarket visited by The Associated Press
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Sen. Harry Reid discloses
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USA Today, by Catalina Camia
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Posted By: scottyboy- 5/16/2013 11:50:56 AM
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has a personal reason for wanting to ban discrimination in the workplace. "My niece is a lesbian," Reid told the Huffington Post on Wednesday. "She´s a school teacher. Her employment shouldn´t be affected with that. We should have a law that says that, not just the good graces of wherever you work." Reid´s revelation is just the latest example of a member of Congress explaining a personal reason behind a political stance.
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Obama breaches
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Daily Caller, by Mike Piccione
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Posted By: JoElla Bee- 5/16/2013 6:12:20 PM
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The commander in chief of the American armed forces today forced a violation of Marine Corps regulations, so he wouldn’t get wet. According to Marine Corps regulation MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3, a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. There is no provision in the Marine Corps uniform regulation guidelines that allows a male Marine to carrying an umbrella. Nevertheless, during a press conference under a light drizzle with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan this morning, President Obama allowed the First Head to be
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