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U.S. description of Benghazi
attacks, at first cautious,
changed after 3 days

McClatchy Newspapers, by Hannah Allam & Jonathon S. Landay

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/19/2012 5:20:51 AM

WASHINGTON — In the first 48 hours after the deadly Sept. 11 attacks on U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya, senior Obama administration officials strongly alluded to a terrorist assault and repeatedly declined to link it to an anti-Muslim video that drew protests elsewhere in the region, transcripts of briefings show. The administration’s initial accounts, however, changed dramatically in the following days, according to a review of briefing transcripts and administration statements, with a new narrative emerging Sept. 16 when U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice asserted in a series of TV appearances that the best information available

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Even McClatchy won't buy his story. If you've lost McClatchy, Mr. President.....

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: country boy, 10/19/2012 5:57:10 AM     (No. 8944823)

obama lied and the Ambassador died.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: RosietheObserver, 10/19/2012 6:58:41 AM     (No. 8944899)

Obama lied; four people died.

My liberal friends tell me that Nixon can "never be forgiven" for what he did at Watergate, and yet they are completely silent about Benghazi-gate.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: asu86pe, 10/19/2012 7:04:59 AM     (No. 8944909)

It was a terrorist attack before he decided it wasn't a terrorist attack before he decided it was a terrorist attack.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 10/19/2012 7:06:34 AM     (No. 8944912)

''Any time four Americans get killed, it's not optimal.''

''There's bound to be some bumps in the road.''

~pResident Evil.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: fed-up, 10/19/2012 7:12:58 AM     (No. 8944923)

In all the hours during the attack, I'm sure they thought help was on the way. You can't tell me there wasn't discussion at highest levels how to do it, or why not. Of course, Obama probably not in on it.. he had to get his beauty rest. He had a big day the next day/

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mrduc, 10/19/2012 7:15:25 AM     (No. 8944925)

All smokescreen for the big scandal which is: Why Amb. Stevens and the CIA were in Benghazi in the first place. I have read that BO's administration had been giving weapons to the 'rebels' under the radar to oust the sitting regime. Turns out the 'rebels' were al qaida. Stevens and the CIA were there to try and get the weapons back since al qaida has been using the weapons on our troops. HUGE blunder by BO. Then comes the attack on the consulate which casts the white hot spotlight on the whole operation. Hence the furious tap-dancing by the BO spin machine re: the 'offensive video'. Also the cremation of the bodies, hiLIARy falling on her sword. They are covering big time and so far, have managed to keep everyone talking about videos, if and when BO said 'terrorist attack' in the Rose Garden, and Crowley being a BO shill, instead of the BIG question which is Why Amb. Stevens was there in the first place. Has anyone else here read about our weapons being funneled to al qaida?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Spindletoptexas, 10/19/2012 7:20:35 AM     (No. 8944938)

Yes Poster #6. I too have heard we gave weapons to the "rebels". I also believe history is repeating itself. We may again be giving weapons to "rebels" to fight in Syria. Also why aren't we talking about our troops in Jordan?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/19/2012 7:22:39 AM     (No. 8944945)

Any time a President who does nothing to save Americans from getting killed and then lies about it gets voted out of office, that's optimal.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: GoVirginia!, 10/19/2012 7:38:16 AM     (No. 8944985)

Autopsies? Where are the demands for autopsy reports? I have not heard a word from anyone. Did they cremate them supposedly without an autopsy?

This could be another cog in the scandal, where are the autopsy reports?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: cgood, 10/19/2012 7:47:11 AM     (No. 8945004)

If you scroll down on the thread following the article, you can find the developing narrative. It's 'Yeah, so, even if they did lie it's not as bad as the lies told by the Bush administration about Iraq.' Like everything else, the conversation goes back to Bush. The media will have a field day re-hashing Iraq and ignoring Benghazi.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: novakid, 10/19/2012 8:01:18 AM     (No. 8945032)

So, Teddy Kennedy wasn't so bad, hekilled only one girl--that we know of.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: uno, 10/19/2012 8:16:21 AM     (No. 8945068)

#8 - That really sums it up very nicely. Allow me to add:
Any time a President who deliberately put Americans in harm's way, ignores their pleas for help and does nothing to save them from getting killed and then lies about it gets voted out of office, that's optimal.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tangles, 10/19/2012 8:23:07 AM     (No. 8945081)

State Department took out newspaper apology adds the day after the attack!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: gasmeterguy, 10/19/2012 8:40:10 AM     (No. 8945122)

Wait a minute!

When I first learned of the Benghazi attack, a video was blamed. Only when a Lybian official was interviewed was the term "act of terrorism" used.

Now I learn that our intelligence community always called it an act of terrorism, that the message was changed somewhere between the intelligence community and the public.

Is McClatchy news organization rewriting history? I believe they are.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 10/19/2012 8:40:14 AM     (No. 8945123)

Obama flunky Geraldo Rivera was on Fox & Friends peddling a new theory (actually he was telling the administration to use this story now): it is that the video went viral a few days before 9/11/12 and the Kattami (sp?) organized a terrorist attack in response to the video. So, according to Geraldo, it was both a response to the video AND a terrorist attack.

Sorry, this is too desperate - the truth is they knew it was terrorism all along but knew it would look bad since Barry has been telling us that al qaeda is defeated - so they made up this video story with confidence their buddies in the msm would provide cover.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: RightShoe, 10/19/2012 9:25:43 AM     (No. 8945244)

Meanwhile, the man who made the video is still incarcerated. And for what?

Did he burn a bible? Did he desecrate an American flag? Did he pee on a crucifix?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 10/19/2012 9:33:11 AM     (No. 8945277)

since the very beginning of this debacle I've been asking about autopsy reports. Why have we taken the word of ''Libyan doctors'' re the cause of death? Has anyone in US law enforcement or military done a separate autopsy? Why are the families so silent? Have they been either separately advised re COD, do they not care (Stevens' mother was interviewed yesterday and it truly sounded like she did not want further info), have they been silenced? This is beyond fog of war. It's something else completely. This is cover-up at the highest level...

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Reply 18 - Posted by: nightvision, 10/19/2012 9:39:33 AM     (No. 8945294)

Last night Sean Hannity said that the State Dept. has a new tape, and he will talk about it on his TV show tonight.
I'm very curious as to what this is all about.

I hope it's a bombshell. He hinted at the fact that Clinton had asked for more security.
Wouldn't it be interesting if that's true, and she was turned down.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bsparks, 10/19/2012 9:40:32 AM     (No. 8945298)

The Benghazi focus has been on the timeline...who knew what when and who said what when.

I want to know WHAT THE HELL WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. Does the Great One have a plan (now that he's admitted he knew from the beginning that this was an act of terror -- the assassination of a US official?)

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 10/19/2012 9:48:58 AM     (No. 8945317)

Dittos to #8. There are many reasons why 0bama is not qualified to lead this country, but just for Benghazi alone, he is completely unfit to be a Commander in Chief.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 10/19/2012 10:06:12 AM     (No. 8945382)

Mr. Cool Medium never learned that when innocent Americans get butchered, you need to turn up the heat. The problem is, he can't even fake it well.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: faldo, 10/19/2012 10:09:25 AM     (No. 8945390)

Today's Wall Street Journal column by Adam Entous and Siobhan Gorman is even more brazen in its absolute zeal to cover for the deception undertaken by O's Administration. It opens...

"The night before Susan Rice went public with the administration's assessment that the Sept 11 US consulate attack in Libya grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim video, intelligence analysts were receiving new information that contradicted the account she gave. Intelligence agencies soon amended their stance, but it then took weeks longer--until early October--for a new intelligence assessment discounting the protests to make its way into public statements..."

Sickening!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Poliskeptic, 10/19/2012 10:26:09 AM     (No. 8945426)

Right #14. Initially from Obama and his minions it was ALL about the video...and the video maker was on the run. Posters here on Lucianne were upset Obama was once again demonizing an American rather than the butchers who killed and sodomized Americans.

Then we started reading officials from that part of the world said they were planned attacks...but the administration still held to their story for days that it was protests over the video.

Who knows what people who rely on the lying media heard..........

If, God forbid, Obama wins another term, it's going to be brutal for him as the truth comes out.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: janylou, 10/19/2012 10:35:14 AM     (No. 8945443)

I still haven't heard why Woods and Doherty were in Benghazi. We know they weren't part of the embassy security. We find out why they were there and it will answer a lot of questions of why there was a cover-up.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: zazu, 10/19/2012 10:44:42 AM     (No. 8945469)

The really sad thing about all of this is they didn't have to beef up security. All they had to do was pull our people out.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 10/19/2012 10:46:11 AM     (No. 8945473)

Immediately after the attack it was the "video." Obama and Hillary made clear the U.S. government was not responsible for the video. Why would anyone think the government made it? Meanwhile the "Christian video maker" is arrested and has disappeared down a dark hole. We don't even know who was shown in the arrest news clip, there was nothing identifiable about that person. I think that Obama and minions protested a little too much about the government not being responsible. I think the video may play a bigger role in the cover up than just an excuse to start a riot. Was this a Mideast Fast & Furious that went sadly and horribly out of control?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/19/2012 10:50:25 AM     (No. 8945489)

Count me as one of those who questions McClatchy Newspapers of the time line. I don't remember ANYONE in the administration calling the attack as terrorism. All I head was the phrase about some generic "acts of terror". But nothing pointing directly to Benghazi. Must be I'm getting a bit senile in my old age.

Further, I have always thought that we here in the U.S.A. speak American English. But in recent years, I seem to be learning that words no longer mean what they used to. Acts of terror in now terrorism. And I don't know the definition of the word "is". And just try and make sense of what lawyers and politicians say. Can you understand them? I generally can't. It's just another foreign language.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/19/2012 10:51:17 AM     (No. 8945491)

Just like the Clinton administration, this one is managed by fools who were chosen to "look just like America" regardless of competency. Obama is "hands on" nothing. In the days up to the attack the bumbling State Department was making all the decisions. However, Hillary was gallivanting around the globe with Huma and delegated the decisions to others. After the attack the campaign began making all the decisions. They were the ones who conflated the Egypt video story (a wag the dog story if you ask me) with Libya. In the mean time Obama continued to campaign completely oblivious to reality. He still is.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: larryp, 10/19/2012 11:39:59 AM     (No. 8945614)

AND don't forget who ordered the SEALS into a cargo delivery "Past-its-time" helicopter (really a pos crate) and then the Taliban shot it out of the sky. I can't believe there was no Congressional hearing on THAT.
We really have multiple 5th Columns in our country.
I don't want to hear another story about the 2010 elections and the vaunted GOP majority. Clean them all out every one.Even if we have to run a drunk from under a bridge against them. They are useless and Who ordered the cover-up, on Behghazi, was it the campaign, and who ordered the SEALS into that broken Helicopter?


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Reply 30 - Posted by: Sherlock, 10/19/2012 1:17:42 PM     (No. 8945876)

The "Christian Film Maker" (might) be sitting in jail, but I think that video was 'made-up' to be used whenever necessary, and i think the guy is someone on the left.
The interview that I saw of Sean Smith`s mother last Saturday nite with Jean Farrio (sp) Fox News Channel- she said that she ask to see her sons body and was told that it was already on the plane! She didn't get to see her sons body at all. IMHO is, the Ambassador and the others were killed because they knew to much..just saying.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mrduc, 10/19/2012 2:20:24 PM     (No. 8946079)

Totally agree, #32. We think they were offed too b/c of what they knew. This is waaaay bigger than al qaida power growth, or BO gross mismanagement. Something way more malevolent was going on here. Why was Amb Stevens in Benghazi. And the CIA? Why no autopsies? HiLIARy falling on her sword and exiting stage right? Total misdirection by this administration and the media to throw us off the scent of what nefarious operation was really going on.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: strike3, 10/19/2012 3:40:40 PM     (No. 8946264)

"Cautious" in any other era with a real president at the helm would be the definition of having too much security, too many men with weapons on the compound and a shoot to kill order if anybody breached the walls or fired RPGs at it.

In the case of the kenyan dunce, it means apologize for our people, appease the muslims and don't accuse them of anything that might insult them.

As many have mentioned, the Benghazi fiasco looks more and more like a failed stunt on the order of Fast & Furious.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: qmcgs, 10/19/2012 4:55:32 PM     (No. 8946450)

Contrast the timeline of the 9/11/12 this with the 9/11/01 attacks (Yes, it's WIKI, so research the footnotes.)
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks

8:46:30 Flight 11 crashes into the North Tower.

8:55 President Bush notified by Andrew Card that a small twin-engine plan crashed into the WTC. Before entering the classroom he speaks with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice.

932 Flight 175 crashes into the South Tower.

95 Andrew Card informs President Bush that a second plane has hit and the U.S. is under terrorist attack.

9:14 President Bush speaks with Vice President Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, New York Governor George Petaky and FBI Director Robert Mueller.

9:172 CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart mentions that in the intelligence community Osama bin Laden is a probable suspect.

Under GWB:
1. Within 10 minutes of the first impact the news had reached the President.
2. Within 30 minutes the President had spoken to the Vice President, National Security Advisor, Governor of the State of New York and the FBI Director.
3. Within 30 minutes the intelligence community had told the press the likely suspect. Presumably that information was already going up the chain to the President.

After 11 years and trillions of dollars fighting the war on terror, the response by the 0bama administration to the attack on 9/11/12 was at best gross incompetence, most likely dereliction of duty and possibly
worse.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: radrelic, 10/19/2012 11:30:10 PM     (No. 8947055)

The video maker America's first political prisoner of modern times? Or do we count Gordon Libby?

The sure thing about Libya is that the admin all lied at sometime about aomething and probably a lot of things a lot of times by extension!

Not enough time before the election to school the sheeple on everything and the nuances thereof--sheer volume overwhelms?

Authors will be busy but the GOP admin will not revisit to depress and oppress us IMO. Too bad We ought to start pinning it on the Clintons before 2016 but maybe her age alone will save us? Chelsea? Who is Chelsea?

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visit Great Wall of China and country
becomes fascinated with Michelle´s ´elegance´

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Daily Mail [UK], by Associated Press & Daily Mail Reporter    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 3/23/2014 12:46:59 PM     Post Reply
First daughter Sasha Obama cut a stylish figure in jeans and shades as the Obama girls visited the Great Wall of China today. Michelle Obama, Malia, 15, and Sasha, 12, were left alone to explore the Mutianyu section of the historical landmark in the northern Beijing suburbs though Chinese police officers looked on protectively. The three walked a stretch of the wall that looks out to a massive rock inscription on a hillside that reads in Chinese: ´Loyal to Chairman Mao.´ The country has been fascinated by Mrs Obama´s ´elegance´ during the weeklong visit to the country to promote educational

University of California-Santa
Barbara feminist professor charged
in confrontation with pro-life teen

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Fox News, by Staff*    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/22/2014 9:43:26 PM     Post Reply
A feminist studies professor at a California state university is facing criminal charges after a videotaped run-in with a teenage pro-life demonstrator in which she snatched an anti-abortion sign and appeared to get physical with the girl. University of California at Santa Barbara Associate Professor Mireille Miller-Young was charged with one misdemeanor count each of theft, battery and vandalism in the March 4 incident, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Joyce Dudley announced Friday. The charges came days after 16-year-old Thrin Short and her parents met with prosecutors. Thrin told authorities what she told FoxNews.com earlier this month: She, her older

Press banned as first
lady touts free speech

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Boston Herald, by Bob McGovern    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/23/2014 4:48:25 AM     Post Reply
First lady Michelle Obama told students that freedom of speech should be a universal right during her extravagant, no-press-allowed tour of China — a hypocritical move that will surely draw the ire of critics, according to an expert. “That is troublesome. That goes beyond hypocritical, and I think the American media and the international media has every right to call her and the Obama administration on that — that they permitted that to happen,” said Tom Whalen, a political history professor at Boston University. “It makes you shake your head, albeit sadly.” The first lady stopped at Peking University in Beijing yesterday

Study: Blacks with white
friends are ´less black´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: Judy W.- 3/23/2014 6:23:12 AM     Post Reply
When Washington, D.C., councilman and former Mayor Marion Barry this week said that whites need to be “more open-minded” about African-American politicians, claiming “blacks are more open-minded than” whites, he was suggesting that whites can´t do what blacks do -- embrace the other race. But a new study of 212 black college students made available to Secrets found little open-mindedness: Blacks don´t like it when other blacks associate with whites, to the point of refusing help to an African-American experiencing “a run of bad luck” -- just because they have white friends. The study in the April edition of the authoritative journal

Teen arrested in ´knockout´
assault of disabled man

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WJXT-TV [Jacksonville, FL], by Scott Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/22/2014 9:18:03 AM     Post Reply
Jacksonville, Fla. - A 16-year-old was arrested Friday, accused of attacking a disabled man pumping gas last month. Kevin Johnson is charged with abuse of a disabled adult in the Feb. 4 attack at the Hess station on Merrill Road. Michael Caraway was walking with a cane when he was struck in the face by a group a teens he believes was playing the "knockout game." Caraway told Channel 4 the pain was extreme for a long time after he was attacked in February. "I´m doing better, just taking things one day at a time," said Caraway. "My wife and

Ellmers berates constituents
for opposing amnesty ´You
don´t have any damn facts´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Tony Lee    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 3/23/2014 9:55:10 AM     Post Reply
In a constituent meeting gone awry that was captured on shaky, amateur video, embattled Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) berated a group of local activists who oppose amnesty legislation, suggesting they were racist and saying they didn´t have “any damn facts.” “You´re telling me what people have told you? You don´t have any damn facts!” Ellmers exploded at one of the activists when he said that employers – who often claim a labor shortage to argue for amnesty – frequently don´t post job openings in that region.

First lady´s mission: Free speech for all
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The Hill (Washington DC), by Rebecca Shabad    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/22/2014 2:46:53 PM     Post Reply
First lady Michelle Obama told a group of Chinese students Saturday that free speech is a universal right that makes countries stronger. Nations are “stronger and more prosperous” when people’s opinions are heard," Obama said during her trip to China, which employs some of the strictest limits on the Internet. “We respect the uniqueness of other cultures and societies, but when it comes to expressing yourself freely and worshipping as you choose and having open access to information, we believe those universal rights — they are universal rights that are the birthright of every person on this planet,” she said

Tapper: White House Concerned Russia Could
Invade Ukraine as Soon as This Weekend

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Mediaite, by Noah Rothman    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 3/22/2014 4:33:26 AM     Post Reply
Quoting unnamed administration officials, CNN host Jake Tapper revealed that the White House is “concerned” that Russia could invade South and East Ukraine “possibly as soon as this weekend.” He said that, in spite of Russia’s assurances that the large numbers of troops and military equipment amassed along the Ukrainian border are there merely for training exercises, the White House believes that Moscow could be planning a broader incursion into Ukraine. “There is now real apprehension that Vladimir Putin could push even further into Ukraine, perhaps as soon as this weekend,” Tapper said. He quoted anonymous administration officials who are “concerned”

GOP candidate for governor
is a registered sex offender

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Los Angeles Times, by Seema Mehta    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/22/2014 3:42:27 PM     Post Reply
One of four gubernatorial candidates introduced to California Republicans recently is a registered sex offender who spent more than a decade in state prison, convicted of crimes including voluntary manslaughter and assault with intent to commit rape. (Snip) Champ, a little-known political neophyte from the Fresno County community of Tollhouse, did not directly mention his criminal past during his speech but said, "In my life, I´ve been held accountable because of my stupidity. I do not want anyone else to be enslaved because of their lack of knowledge." Champ´s rap sheet is lengthy. Court records show that in 1992,

Last place to send first lady
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Boston Herald, by Howie Carr    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/22/2014 5:25:04 AM     Post Reply
They could make a movie out of Moochelle Obama’s trip to China, except they already have: “The Ugly American.” It was bad enough when the first lady and her posse of 70 or so coat-holders took off on yet another globe-trotting adventure, but then she said it was “rare” that she got out of the United States. And now they’re holed up in an $8,350-a-night “presidential suite” at the Westin Hotel in Beijing. Aren’t presidential suites supposed to be reserved for, oh I don’t know, presidents? Now we learn that the grandmother, Marian Robinson, “is barking at the staff.” Barking? Surely Comrade Chris Matthews


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