WASHINGTON — In the first 48 hours after the deadly Sept. 11 attacks on U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya, senior Obama administration officials strongly alluded to a terrorist assault and repeatedly declined to link it to an anti-Muslim video that drew protests elsewhere in the region, transcripts of briefings show. The administration’s initial accounts, however, changed dramatically in the following days, according to a review of briefing transcripts and administration statements, with a new narrative emerging Sept. 16 when U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice asserted in a series of TV appearances that the best information available
Comments: Even McClatchy won't buy his story. If you've lost McClatchy, Mr. President.....
In all the hours during the attack, I'm sure they thought help was on the way. You can't tell me there wasn't discussion at highest levels how to do it, or why not. Of course, Obama probably not in on it.. he had to get his beauty rest. He had a big day the next day/
All smokescreen for the big scandal which is: Why Amb. Stevens and the CIA were in Benghazi in the first place. I have read that BO's administration had been giving weapons to the 'rebels' under the radar to oust the sitting regime. Turns out the 'rebels' were al qaida. Stevens and the CIA were there to try and get the weapons back since al qaida has been using the weapons on our troops. HUGE blunder by BO. Then comes the attack on the consulate which casts the white hot spotlight on the whole operation. Hence the furious tap-dancing by the BO spin machine re: the 'offensive video'. Also the cremation of the bodies, hiLIARy falling on her sword. They are covering big time and so far, have managed to keep everyone talking about videos, if and when BO said 'terrorist attack' in the Rose Garden, and Crowley being a BO shill, instead of the BIG question which is Why Amb. Stevens was there in the first place. Has anyone else here read about our weapons being funneled to al qaida?
Yes Poster #6. I too have heard we gave weapons to the "rebels". I also believe history is repeating itself. We may again be giving weapons to "rebels" to fight in Syria. Also why aren't we talking about our troops in Jordan?
If you scroll down on the thread following the article, you can find the developing narrative. It's 'Yeah, so, even if they did lie it's not as bad as the lies told by the Bush administration about Iraq.' Like everything else, the conversation goes back to Bush. The media will have a field day re-hashing Iraq and ignoring Benghazi.
#8 - That really sums it up very nicely. Allow me to add: Any time a President who deliberately put Americans in harm's way, ignores their pleas for help and does nothing to save them from getting killed and then lies about it gets voted out of office, that's optimal.
Obama flunky Geraldo Rivera was on Fox & Friends peddling a new theory (actually he was telling the administration to use this story now): it is that the video went viral a few days before 9/11/12 and the Kattami (sp?) organized a terrorist attack in response to the video. So, according to Geraldo, it was both a response to the video AND a terrorist attack.
Sorry, this is too desperate - the truth is they knew it was terrorism all along but knew it would look bad since Barry has been telling us that al qaeda is defeated - so they made up this video story with confidence their buddies in the msm would provide cover.
since the very beginning of this debacle I've been asking about autopsy reports. Why have we taken the word of ''Libyan doctors'' re the cause of death? Has anyone in US law enforcement or military done a separate autopsy? Why are the families so silent? Have they been either separately advised re COD, do they not care (Stevens' mother was interviewed yesterday and it truly sounded like she did not want further info), have they been silenced? This is beyond fog of war. It's something else completely. This is cover-up at the highest level...
The Benghazi focus has been on the timeline...who knew what when and who said what when.
I want to know WHAT THE HELL WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. Does the Great One have a plan (now that he's admitted he knew from the beginning that this was an act of terror -- the assassination of a US official?)
Today's Wall Street Journal column by Adam Entous and Siobhan Gorman is even more brazen in its absolute zeal to cover for the deception undertaken by O's Administration. It opens...
"The night before Susan Rice went public with the administration's assessment that the Sept 11 US consulate attack in Libya grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an anti-Muslim video, intelligence analysts were receiving new information that contradicted the account she gave. Intelligence agencies soon amended their stance, but it then took weeks longer--until early October--for a new intelligence assessment discounting the protests to make its way into public statements..."
Right #14. Initially from Obama and his minions it was ALL about the video...and the video maker was on the run. Posters here on Lucianne were upset Obama was once again demonizing an American rather than the butchers who killed and sodomized Americans.
Then we started reading officials from that part of the world said they were planned attacks...but the administration still held to their story for days that it was protests over the video.
Who knows what people who rely on the lying media heard..........
If, God forbid, Obama wins another term, it's going to be brutal for him as the truth comes out.
I still haven't heard why Woods and Doherty were in Benghazi. We know they weren't part of the embassy security. We find out why they were there and it will answer a lot of questions of why there was a cover-up.
Immediately after the attack it was the "video." Obama and Hillary made clear the U.S. government was not responsible for the video. Why would anyone think the government made it? Meanwhile the "Christian video maker" is arrested and has disappeared down a dark hole. We don't even know who was shown in the arrest news clip, there was nothing identifiable about that person. I think that Obama and minions protested a little too much about the government not being responsible. I think the video may play a bigger role in the cover up than just an excuse to start a riot. Was this a Mideast Fast & Furious that went sadly and horribly out of control?
Count me as one of those who questions McClatchy Newspapers of the time line. I don't remember ANYONE in the administration calling the attack as terrorism. All I head was the phrase about some generic "acts of terror". But nothing pointing directly to Benghazi. Must be I'm getting a bit senile in my old age.
Further, I have always thought that we here in the U.S.A. speak American English. But in recent years, I seem to be learning that words no longer mean what they used to. Acts of terror in now terrorism. And I don't know the definition of the word "is". And just try and make sense of what lawyers and politicians say. Can you understand them? I generally can't. It's just another foreign language.
Just like the Clinton administration, this one is managed by fools who were chosen to "look just like America" regardless of competency. Obama is "hands on" nothing. In the days up to the attack the bumbling State Department was making all the decisions. However, Hillary was gallivanting around the globe with Huma and delegated the decisions to others. After the attack the campaign began making all the decisions. They were the ones who conflated the Egypt video story (a wag the dog story if you ask me) with Libya. In the mean time Obama continued to campaign completely oblivious to reality. He still is.
AND don't forget who ordered the SEALS into a cargo delivery "Past-its-time" helicopter (really a pos crate) and then the Taliban shot it out of the sky. I can't believe there was no Congressional hearing on THAT. We really have multiple 5th Columns in our country. I don't want to hear another story about the 2010 elections and the vaunted GOP majority. Clean them all out every one.Even if we have to run a drunk from under a bridge against them. They are useless and Who ordered the cover-up, on Behghazi, was it the campaign, and who ordered the SEALS into that broken Helicopter?
The "Christian Film Maker" (might) be sitting in jail, but I think that video was 'made-up' to be used whenever necessary, and i think the guy is someone on the left. The interview that I saw of Sean Smith`s mother last Saturday nite with Jean Farrio (sp) Fox News Channel- she said that she ask to see her sons body and was told that it was already on the plane! She didn't get to see her sons body at all. IMHO is, the Ambassador and the others were killed because they knew to much..just saying.
Totally agree, #32. We think they were offed too b/c of what they knew. This is waaaay bigger than al qaida power growth, or BO gross mismanagement. Something way more malevolent was going on here. Why was Amb Stevens in Benghazi. And the CIA? Why no autopsies? HiLIARy falling on her sword and exiting stage right? Total misdirection by this administration and the media to throw us off the scent of what nefarious operation was really going on.
"Cautious" in any other era with a real president at the helm would be the definition of having too much security, too many men with weapons on the compound and a shoot to kill order if anybody breached the walls or fired RPGs at it.
In the case of the kenyan dunce, it means apologize for our people, appease the muslims and don't accuse them of anything that might insult them.
As many have mentioned, the Benghazi fiasco looks more and more like a failed stunt on the order of Fast & Furious.
Contrast the timeline of the 9/11/12 this with the 9/11/01 attacks (Yes, it's WIKI, so research the footnotes.) Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks
8:46:30 Flight 11 crashes into the North Tower.
8:55 President Bush notified by Andrew Card that a small twin-engine plan crashed into the WTC. Before entering the classroom he speaks with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice.
932 Flight 175 crashes into the South Tower.
95 Andrew Card informs President Bush that a second plane has hit and the U.S. is under terrorist attack.
9:14 President Bush speaks with Vice President Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, New York Governor George Petaky and FBI Director Robert Mueller.
9:172 CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart mentions that in the intelligence community Osama bin Laden is a probable suspect.
Under GWB: 1. Within 10 minutes of the first impact the news had reached the President. 2. Within 30 minutes the President had spoken to the Vice President, National Security Advisor, Governor of the State of New York and the FBI Director. 3. Within 30 minutes the intelligence community had told the press the likely suspect. Presumably that information was already going up the chain to the President.
After 11 years and trillions of dollars fighting the war on terror, the response by the 0bama administration to the attack on 9/11/12 was at best gross incompetence, most likely dereliction of duty and possibly worse.
The video maker America's first political prisoner of modern times? Or do we count Gordon Libby?
The sure thing about Libya is that the admin all lied at sometime about aomething and probably a lot of things a lot of times by extension!
Not enough time before the election to school the sheeple on everything and the nuances thereof--sheer volume overwhelms?
Authors will be busy but the GOP admin will not revisit to depress and oppress us IMO. Too bad We ought to start pinning it on the Clintons before 2016 but maybe her age alone will save us? Chelsea? Who is Chelsea?
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