In what surely was one of the weirdest incidents in a presidential debate, CNN’s Candy Crowley egregiously sided with President Obama on his false remarks on Libya, was repeatedly and decisively fact-checked post-debate as wrong (somewhere between “mostly wrong” and “pants on fire” in my book) and then backed away from her own incorrect assertion. As was the case in the vice presidential debate, the biggest story may be the after-the-debate tumult over White House misrepresentations on Libya. Here was the exchange: Link repaired by staff
Romney will have his chance to nail Obama on this at the next debate. How will O back away from the eight or more times he said this attack was a response to a video(including in that speech in the Rose Garden).
Romney would do well to simply recite the timeline to viewers, making clear the president was either dissembling or out of the intelligence loop (which quickly discarded the spontaneous video protest theory because, of course, there never was a protest).
This is one example of how and when a simple timeline can do more clarification than any wordy prose.
This is the thing that bothers me most. It is quite possible that last night was a draw or in favor of Romney, BUT FOR Candy Crowley attacking MItt on Benghazi. Why on God's green eatrth do Republicans allow far left moderators. Using Candy Crowley was like using a dumber Charles Krauthammer. Last lady moderator was almost like using Ann Coulter. I mean give me a break, whats wrong with us??
I heard it said best: “Debate moderator Candy Crowley wins the NFL replacement ref award”. Her “correction” of Mitt Romney of Libya was dead wrong. She later admitted such, but I suspect she knew all along. I found it odd that after Crowley's brazen attempt to rescue Obama, the "undecided" crowd cheered.
Call me Polyanna, but I think this is going to turn out like the Biden-Ryan debate--the media and other libs will initially crow about 0's comeback, but very shortly it will be seen that 0 didn't help himself much, if any, and may actually have hurt himself more. Crowley, too may have launched a boomerang at Romney that will come back and bounce off her fair-haired boy's noggin, by keeping the Libya story front and center. At any rate, I think 0 needed more than just a win to overcome his first pratfall, he needed Romney to fall flat on his face, and that apparently didn't happen.
On the choice of moderators: I am going to be forwarding this message to the RNC regarding future debates. Why did you agree to these left wing moderators and the format of the debates???? What was your goal, and was it accomplished??? Are we “pandering” to the left for votes or was this just a “miscalculation” based on the polls???? I am a Republican and have contributed to the Romney/Ryan campaign because I believe in them. I believe the “debates” I have witnessed for both of my candidates could have been much more beneficial to the Romney/Ryan campaign had the moderators not been guests of the VP and the White House within the past few days, weeks or months. Someone needs to go to the “woodshed” and come back with more useful tactics than what I am seeing. This message is from a very, very concerned voter who wants to live in a free country without worrying about what “Jug Ears” has planned for this country!!!!
What Candy and Obama said on Libya defied two weeks of Obfuscation on the facts by the Administrations minions. The news for this period on the Libyan attack ran from the attack as an act of terrorism and those that payed attention know the Pres. lied and his people also lied.
Mark my words. We're going to find out that Obama knew in advance at least some of the questions, and had time to prepare specific sounding answers to them. Am I saying that Crowley lied at the beginning of the debate when she said that only she had seen the questions? Yes. That's exactly what I am saying.
Incidentally, some of the questions were absolutely terrible. Who in the hell decided which ones to allow? These "undecideds" were anything but undecided. Did you hear the applause when Candy sided, wrongly, with Obama on the Benghazi matter? And the anti-Bush question? What was that doing in the debate?
Republicans just can never get it into their head that liberals will cheat and lie as debate monitors. Crowley was given the freedom to select the questions; so she selected questions set up for Obama and questions negative for Romney. Of course she interrupted Romney many more times than Obama and allowed Obama 9% more time. Then broke in to stop Romney when he had Obama on the ropes with Libyia.
Liberals punish their own when they go off the reservation. If Crowley had not towed the line to assist Obama she would have been harangued mercilessly by liberal media, snubbed by friends and fellow professionals, looked down upon by her bosses at CNN and risked future plum assignments as well as few invites to the "right" Washington cocktail parties.
Crowley was well aware of this and few liberals can stand up against the liberal current. Republicans in the future should wake up and look at the real world.
Fox News's fact checker just labelled as bogus Candy Crowley's question on the "72 percent" differential between men's and women's pay. It seems that this "myth" (his words) came from the Census Department, where all full-time jobholders are lumped together and numbers run for compensation by gender regardless of the jobs held. By its own admission the Census Department's numbers are "loose".
PS. To those who believe he knew the questions in advance, try this on: The questions Candy-Baby formulated were tailored to his talking points. His stump speeches. He didn't need to know the questions.
I don't know which was worse last night. Having to put up with Crowley's obvious media bias as she shut down Romney's discussion about Fast and Furious and famously stepped in to rescue Barry's rear on Benghazi OR---- looking at her.
As an older woman I resent the Debate Commission and the media digging up the ugliest, most unkempt looking women they could possibly find. First Martha Ra-Ditz and now this Crowley witch.
This isn't Crowley's fault. She's just hardwired to be a liberal socialist and of course is going to favor her Dear Leader. The Bozos I fault is this, so called, debate commission who selects these tools to moderate. You would think the Republicans would learn by now, wouldn't ya?
I don't much care if Obama carries the favorable press today. Last night he lied about Libya and that is the big story that will come out of this debate. Obama lied and Crowley helped him do it. Americans are not fools. They saw it happen. Romney is going to benefit the most from last night's exchange.
Funny. Two weeks ago, Crowley knew the truth about Obama's rose garden speech on Benghazi and told Axelrod he was full of it when he claimed Obama said it was caused by terrorism,http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Flashback-Crowley-To-Axelrod-Obama-Never-Said-Benghazi-Attack-Was-Act-Of-Terror-On-Day-After?utm_source=feedbur
and now we are supposed to think she just made an innocent error?
Of course these debates have been rigged for the liberal. With MSM moderators how could they not be. The thing is Mitt won the first debate with a knockout and at worst he got a draw in this one. That means that for the series of three he can do no worse than a draw. Doing that in rigged debates against the incumbent is all he had to do. He has established himself as sufficiently presidential. Given Obama's record, he should win.
I think it was Krauthammer who said last night that Crowley was essentially functioning as Obama's teleprompter for him in the absence of a real one. Obama can't fight one on one, and hiding beyond the nearest available woman seems to be a pattern - much as I suspect he has nothing but disdain for women in general - which makes it all the more ironic. What a pathetic little punk. Hides his personal life behind Michelle Robinson. Hides from responsibility behind Hillary Clinton. Crowley finishes his ''tests'' for him. And Michelle again, leads an undeserved round of applause. What a hero.
This situation is so easy to correct: There will always be two moderators, each candidate choosing one. There will be a large time clock, and huge penalties for usurping more that 50% of the total time used--say 20% penalty for each minute over the allotted time. Obama would have 60% penalty last night. He can blame his chosen moderator if he goes over. Moderators forbidden to intervene on behalf of his candidate on promise of permanent ban on ever being considered for moderating in the future. Ah, well. The current GOP elite will never have a backbone, but I can dream.
Hypothetical telephone conversation: Hi Barry, Holder here. As we had expected, several of Romney's debate prep team left their batteries in their cell phones. My sources activated the wiretap feature and picked up their planning sessions. They plan to accuse you of not recognizing the Bengazi attack as terrorism.
So go ahead with plan A... Use the vague comment about "no acts of terror will yada yada" from the Rose Garden speech. Get a highlighted copy to Candy. She says she'll be watching for our info packet.
She promised to be on standby any time you use the phrase "check the transcript." Use that phrase, and she'll know to scold Romney and to affirm that you are correct.
We need Candy to get in at least one strong rebuke of Romney while appearing to be just fact-checking.
For those who heard the debate last night, below is a "reader's response" to an article about the Rose Garden speech Obama made. Check out the YouTube video. Did he call Bengahzi an act of terrorism? You be the judge.
Crowley and Obama are liars. Watch the full 'rose garden' speech on 9/12/2012.
President Obama Speaks on the Attack on Benghazi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nu6VZ9DeVc
If you watch the full thing -- see that Obama was talking about 9/11/2001 just prior to referring to "Acts of Terror" -- this is a section of the speech after he announced the "attacks" by "killers" in Benghazi. It is clear he was referring to 9/11/2001 and general such “acts of terror” and did not define Benghazi in that way – and ALL of his and his administration’s words and behavior after that point referred to protests and a video as the cause of the Benghazi attacks for several weeks following.
The great part about Candy Crawly’s defense of the Won is that consciously or subconsciously the Libya mess/cover-up and the Bamster’s inept handling of it will remain in peoples’ minds. Bet Hillary is thinking she fell on O’s big stick for nothing, thanks to Ms. Crawly.
The debate transcript really highlights, in quite shocking fashion , how often that Crowley stepped in to shut down Romney and fluff up Obama. I thought Radditz was the worst moderator in history , Crowley now wears that title and the gold belt. The pressure is now on Schieffer . Next debate , he can act in a professional manner like Lehrer. Or he can act like the women and make a national fool of himself. The president of the United States often asked " Candy " to intervene and rescue him , which she always did. I immediately found it strange that Obama directed Crowley to look at the transcript and her quick response indicated that she just happened to have that particular piece of paper right in front of her. It's hard to consider this coincidence and not collusion between the Obama campaign and Crowley. Gallup is also going to get mud on them if this turns out to be true. Despite Crowley holding Obama's hand, Romney still dominated. Rubin recognized that, unfortunately most at MSNBC lite ( except for Hannity, Greta and Rove ) seem to be modeling themselves after Chuck Todd, even Hume. C -Span is the best way to view the debates. We get to decide.
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