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Both female officers drop out of
grueling Marine Corps infantry course

NBC News, by Jeff Black

Original Article

Posted By:Photoonist, 10/16/2012 7:09:10 PM

Both volunteers in a study to see if women could become Marine ground combat leaders have dropped out of the rigorous Infantry Officer Course, with the second failing because of a medical reason late last week, the Marine Corps Times reported. A second lieutenant was unable to complete the required training and left the program on Friday because of unreported medical reasons, the newspaper reported on its website. It was unknown if she became ill or injured or had other medical issues. (Snip) The other female volunteer, who was also a second lieutenant, was unable to complete the

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Now there will be calls to make the requirements easier for women because ''it's not fair.'' That has been the trend under the 0bama regime and with the officers it has promoted with the Marine Corps. being the most resistant. The rule for the entire US military should be: If You are UNQUALIFIED you don't GET IN.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: tunnelrat, 10/16/2012 7:23:27 PM     (No. 8938248)

I'm not sure what the Marine Corps' 13-week course entails. However, when I did the Army's 26-week Infantry Officer Candidate School (back in 1967), it was not considered unusual for nearly half the class to drop out.

These are tough courses, and are *meant* to be tough. Ladies, of course, are welcome to try...


Reply 2 - Posted by: SGMIsles, 10/16/2012 7:25:31 PM     (No. 8938258)


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: SGMIsles, 10/16/2012 7:28:44 PM     (No. 8938270)

Sorry for the second posting. I hit enter too fast. The point is for women not to try just because they can try. As you said #1, the course is tough enough to pass for men. Having the cadre lower standards for weaker personnel just degrades the course.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 10/16/2012 7:34:25 PM     (No. 8938283)

Mmm Hmmm


Reply 5 - Posted by: Refried, 10/16/2012 7:48:51 PM     (No. 8938323)

Informative link halfway down the page.
Marine female officer says women don't belong in the infantry. Read her story. Very interesting.


Reply 6 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/16/2012 7:55:37 PM     (No. 8938340)

Bless them for trying. If a woman can make it through the existing course successfully I have not problem with them participating fully. But if they can't make it then no standards should be lowered. Lives -- including theirs -- are on the line.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Kerryman, 10/16/2012 8:36:38 PM     (No. 8938436)

I read the Gazette article a few months ago. It is based on her combat stress experience which was considerable and though she was at the very top of physical preparedness for a Female Marine Officer. The expectation of young Marines for the exceptional physical fitness of their Platoon Leaders is enormous. A lot of times you are feeling your way to gain your footing in all your areas of responsibility. Your touchstone is your physical fitness and your ability to demonstrate to them that you can "pack the gear". If you can't, your bars won't save you and you are not likely to get the confidence of the platoon back. This is the physical challenge all Platoon Commanders face. Hence the elevation of the physical challenge to women just because of physiology. This experiment does not seem to be a smart road to travel if readiness is your goal.

Semper Fi


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: irishwolfielady, 10/16/2012 8:51:49 PM     (No. 8938479)

As a retired Army Major (Personnel & Operations), women do not belong in Infantry units. Full stop.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Whimsy, 10/16/2012 9:33:36 PM     (No. 8938584)

Men do the fighting and the dying to protect the women and children. Even Israel has this wrong with their men and women in the service. Further prove the point that men and women were 'created', not 'legislated'.


Reply 10 - Posted by: ocjim, 10/17/2012 3:02:09 AM     (No. 8939043)

Keep trying, brave women... One very special one may well succeed some day and that is great.
HOWEVER, just so absolutely NO standards are lowered. None, nada, zero!



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