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Biden’s toxic victory
Washington Post, by Michael Gerson

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Normally, a debate “victory” doesn’t require quite so much damage control. Following Vice President Biden’s manic, careening ride through global politics last week, President Obama is left to make a variety of cleanups and clarifications. On Libya, Biden managed to further muddle a muddled narrative. His claim that the administration had no knowledge of requests for added security in Benghazi required immediate correction. He was “speaking about himself and the president,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney. Which served to highlight the culpability of the State Department and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: tunnelrat, 10/16/2012 12:04:39 AM     (No. 8936149)

"It would have been embarrassing if done in front of a mirror, much less on a debate stage."

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Deedo, 10/16/2012 12:09:46 AM     (No. 8936153)

The article rips Biden from start to end, yet it the title declares it yet a victory for Biden. Huh??

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Reply 3 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/16/2012 1:17:18 AM     (No. 8936224)

#2: that's what I'm scratching my head over as well. I really haven't seen anyone but far leftist kool-aiders claiming Biden was victorious. Most thought he was an embarrassment and a jerk.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Kurto, 10/16/2012 3:27:34 AM     (No. 8936290)

What pathetic BS! Wapo thinks BiteMe won the debate? 0 can't even carry his own water, now he's going to cleanup and clarify the mess? Hellary's culpability is a shallow ploy in an effort to take the disaster off 0's hands just prior to the debate. It will not work. Romney has already reminded team 0 that the SoS is part of the Administration.

This dope should attempt in cranial/rectal separation before trying to float his next journalistic excrement. The wapo should be ashamed for printing this complete and total idiocy. But, then again they are facing utter desperation...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: DaddyO, 10/16/2012 7:10:55 AM     (No. 8936451)

The first comment is right on target:
"If I were Gerson I would have a few words with editors who mischaracterized the contents of his opinion piece with this embarrassing headline. But maybe he is thinking it is just a matter of time before the Post can't afford to make payroll based on their circulation figures. Can't come soon enough for most of us."

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Toledo, 10/16/2012 7:11:33 AM     (No. 8936453)

My reading is that "victory" is used in an ironic sense. This is a pretty damning piece and clearly the author doesn't think Biden won anything but complete disgust from viewers.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 10/16/2012 7:56:43 AM     (No. 8936539)

So Biden got one point on foreign policy and he's victorious?

So what happens when an angry Obama who is the incumbent shows up? Smoke and mirrors? Let him channel Axelroid, maybe he can put the moron vote to sleep?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 10/16/2012 8:07:51 AM     (No. 8936552)

The subtle premise for morons to absorb is that the debate was a Biden victory. What a crock.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Aunt Agnes, 10/16/2012 8:08:06 AM     (No. 8936554)

I heard that his "coach" for the debates was that repulsive Ed Shcultz. I know someone who watches his show regularly & it explains a lot about her repugnant, ridiculing behavior around anyone who doesn't support BO. It would be ironic & so fitting, if Biden's over-the-top-obnoxiousness is the thing that makes BO lose the election.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Arby, 10/16/2012 8:10:00 AM     (No. 8936558)

If he is, indeed, a fundamentally nice man, as Brit Hume said, then this was a huge, conscious act, one for which (if he truly is a good person) he will feel great guilt. It will haunt his Catholic conscience forever, because he knows that Paul Ryan is a good man and didn't deserve that horrific disrespect. A new low in American politics.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: zbogwan2, 10/16/2012 8:19:20 AM     (No. 8936577)

Huckabee has a good spot on Bidens debate debacle here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNJaPyipJk4




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Reply 12 - Posted by: slickbgone, 10/16/2012 8:24:34 AM     (No. 8936588)

biteMe's performace was for the benefit of msnbc. barry & his band of clowns couldn't handle another week of bashing from chrissy & his ilk.

Nevermind he lied through his bleached teeth, acted like a boorish buffoon, & made a mockery of the office. This is how the rats play the game. The bad news for 'rats is those who are undecided saw his performace for what it was. Rude, disrespectful, unserious, & bizzarre.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: saraguay, 10/16/2012 9:26:04 AM     (No. 8936674)

read the comments after the article. they show how many dullards there are voting (but maybe not, hopefully) for this unbelievable man, who is a plagiarist, an embellisher, who has NO filter between what he thinks and what he says. there are people (commenters after the article) who say they'd support a presidential bid of his!! there are so many democrats who will vote for this administration. it is up to us to ask what "lies" r and r are telling and have ready and accurate responses to the answers. this race has not been won by romney and there is still a lot of work to be done before he can.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 10/16/2012 9:30:02 AM     (No. 8936681)

A "victory"? What debate was Gerson watching??

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/16/2012 9:32:24 AM     (No. 8936688)

After all those facial mannerisms on television, I thought they would slam him in the bunker until the election is over.
Alas and alack, he is scheduled to discuss the coming debate the following day.
I'm beginning to think he is thinking of a new career after the fall- host moderator for a Lib news channel. He can partner up with Sharpton the sharp.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Susannah, 10/16/2012 9:44:39 AM     (No. 8936714)

It really does help to read the article before commenting on its contents. This piece pretty much shreds Biden.

Reporters, by the way, do not write their own headlines. Editors write the headlines.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 10/16/2012 10:17:40 AM     (No. 8936804)

It is interesting to remember that Gerson is one of the founders of the "No Labels" movement by supposed moderates. If all the others that call themselves moderate feel the same way as Gerson, Romney is in very good shape.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 10/16/2012 10:22:46 AM     (No. 8936826)

I think a lot of shrewd Democrats, including Biden, think Obama is already toast. Then why the push to fire up the base by behaving so boorishly? Because low turnout among the base could cost the Democrats control of the Senate.

Remember please that Biden was already in the US Senate when vote revulsion over Watergate created the first "permanent Democrat majority" in the Senate. The real shock of election night in 1980 wasn't Reagan's win. It was the defeat of NINE incumbent Democrat Senators plus the pick up of three open seats to give Republicans a 53-46-1 majority. I suspect there are few things Biden wouldn't do to prevent a replay of that debacle.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/16/2012 10:23:51 AM     (No. 8936828)

Gerson has a way with words:

He displayed scene-chewing antics and preening exhibitionism and smirking rudeness and egotistical exuberance and bullying condescension. It was the attack of the feral ham actor. It would have been embarrassing if done in front of a mirror, much less on a debate stage.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: jlw509, 10/16/2012 10:26:04 AM     (No. 8936836)

I do find the headline ironically helpful, in that it will pull in the Leftaroos who DO think Biden won the debate, and then shred them with a meat-axe and tweezers.

Keep in mind, though, that neither Op-Ed Opinionistas nor regular on-the-beat reporters write headlines. That job goes to the page editor. Sometimes the discrepancy is Grand-Canyonesque.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 10/16/2012 10:28:32 AM     (No. 8936842)

Re the headline, it is a subtle jab at the Left that thinks Biden won. It could have appropriately been put in quotation marks.

Gerson's opening sentence should give everyone the clue - when he says never has a "victory" required so much damage control. His tongue is in his cheek.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 10/16/2012 10:28:52 AM     (No. 8936843)

Biden 'won the debate' like a wife-beater convinces the family to see things his way... and with all the neighbors watching.

Biden (and Raddatz) didn't just deny Ryan a fair chance to express his points without interferrence, he also denied America the right to hear him.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: nevernaught, 10/16/2012 10:30:18 AM     (No. 8936846)

It should be clear even to the densest liberal by now that between Bidens $22,000 teeth and $15,000 of hair plugs there resides pure unadulterated mush. He's getting worse by the minute.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 10/16/2012 10:46:52 AM     (No. 8936878)

Two things: 1. If memory serves, Gerson is not exactly a Sarah Palin conservative, as others have ponted out. I'm thinking Biden didn't help 0 much with the "independents". 2. Haven't some of you folks heard of the term "Pyrrhic victory"? I think "toxic victory" is a pretty close synonym, and not TOO far off the mark.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Aegedius, 10/16/2012 10:51:38 AM     (No. 8936890)

For info, the editor of the editorial page writes the headline, not the author of the column.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: federale, 10/16/2012 11:22:31 AM     (No. 8936958)

What is really frightening about Biden's debate performance is that, as Clint Eastwood pointed out, "Biden is the intellect of the Democratic Party".

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Reply 27 - Posted by: broken01, 10/16/2012 11:34:23 AM     (No. 8937006)

Please folks read the article before posting. Mikey has a way with words and the piece does stick it to BDF Biden. That debate was a total joke because of BFD's and Rattatz stooging of Ryan. Even so I still wouldn't even line my cockatoo's birdcage with this fish wrap of a newspaper.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: artsy, 10/16/2012 11:38:50 AM     (No. 8937019)

Biden's "performance" is a main reason
Romney is pulling ahead with women voters. It was a wake up to the true feelings of this Dem ticket. (OMG, we hate demeaning, smirking, men like that!) Thanks, Joe.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 10/16/2012 12:13:42 PM     (No. 8937125)

The WaPo's comment board is thick with kool-aid drinkers who actually don't believe Biden's a liar and loved his "emotion" or whatever it was he displayed at the debate. It's troubling how many delusional people are out there.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 10/16/2012 12:13:43 PM     (No. 8937126)

A lot of people miss the mark with Biden. He is a nutcase. His pathological vanity makes him, at age 70, do silly looking things to his head and spend 10s of thousands of dollars on teeth caps and veneers that many movie stars don't bother with, especially at his age. That, coupled with his monumental ego that makes him say stupid things and expect everybody to ignore it because he is so special and can get away with saying anything and everybody must, absolutely must, adore him.

That's it. I believe that any non-political shrink on the planet would diagnose this guy as clinically crazy. And he's a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/16/2012 12:14:13 PM     (No. 8937129)

Biden reminds me of a line from an old Hank Williams Sr. song. "He only uses his head to hold his ears apart". That sums him up in a nutshell.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: danboy, 10/16/2012 12:20:58 PM     (No. 8937151)

Could anyone watch the debate without thinking of a jackass eating briers?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: RightShoe, 10/16/2012 12:21:56 PM     (No. 8937156)

Imagine if everyone acted like Joe Biden.

'nuff said.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: msctex1, 10/16/2012 12:25:34 PM     (No. 8937169)

This isn't really surprising. From this point on, neither Biden nor Obama can be allowed to "lose." Obama could break down in tears and begin spasmodically bowing to the east at the next debate, and they would claim it indicated only his keen insight into world culture.

This is about Perception, henceforth. Reality is a lost cause.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 10/16/2012 12:31:36 PM     (No. 8937190)

The article savages Biden and documents the giant mess that Obama will have to try and clean up.
In addition to defending his own failed four years.
No one other than residents of a locked ward
at an institution could have found
Biden's mental breakdown enjoyable.
Biden demonstrated that is he is clearly incapable of assuming the Constitutional duties
required of him.
Had he behaved like this in the boardroom of a major
corporation, he would have been fired.
Biden's rarely discussed neurological history
( two craniotomies ) may have affected his behavior .
It's not amusing and should never have been excused and laughed at by the media for years.
Obama and Biden are the two most unqualified and unprofessional men
to have ever occupied the Oval Office.


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Reply 36 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 10/16/2012 1:18:39 PM     (No. 8937348)

#35 hit on something I overlooked, something very important. Biden has very survived two craniotomies to remove brain aneurysms. A craniotomey is a very serious operation. The surgons remove a part of the skull to access the brain and then remove part of the brain. Needless to say, it's a highly dangerous procedure that often leaves permanent brain damage. Brain damage manifests itself in many ways. Biden underwent 2 of these operations. Two. Didn't know that did you. You can bet the farm that this would disqualify a Republican from holding any National office - especially VP or POTUS.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/16/2012 1:36:18 PM     (No. 8937401)

The Media fears the Left at this point in history for the same reason if fears the Jihadis....this is how a dictatorial regime acts and sounds just before it takes direct 'action' to eliminate it's enemies. It not only has happened before but it has happened so many times that it is hard to miss for those who have even a smattering of historical perspective. The new regime will pick ALL new 'jurnolists'. Some are hoping to be the last ones hauled off.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 10/16/2012 1:58:16 PM     (No. 8937468)

I really hate rude people. Win, lose or draw this will have almost no effect on the election

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Luckyx3, 10/16/2012 2:06:22 PM     (No. 8937496)

God forgive me but I just wanted to slap him.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/16/2012 2:13:32 PM     (No. 8937515)

I really couldn't believe that the Democraps had selected Biden for the VP position in '08. He's always seemed a little simple, fey, obnoxious and more than a little like Col. Blusterbuss.

What did he ever do in Congress that anyone remembers? He was hardly a foreign policy expert despite being on the committee. It was all smoke and mirrors.

I think his brains are a little mixed up and he's not quite all there. Could it be the start of some more serious senior problem?

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Reply 41 - Posted by: M Stuart, 10/16/2012 2:38:41 PM     (No. 8937593)

You're right #36. Remember Eagleton?

He was terrible and so obnoxious that even fervent political junkies like me had to turn him off.






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Reply 42 - Posted by: veritas, 10/16/2012 3:02:15 PM     (No. 8937668)

Several posters provide correct and useful information, but there's more still.

1. It's correct that headlines aren't written by the article's author.
2. It is wrong to assume an innocent motive, such as "the usage is ironic." That's especially so in the case of the WaPo, NYT, LAT, Boston Globe, MSNBC, etc.
3. Important point not yet mentioned -- search engine manipulation via headline wording. We know the Left does it as a basic practice. This article will be one that's counted whenever some biased journo wants to "show" how many articles "said" "Biden won the debate."

#28 mentions women voters. I heard someone on radio describe Biden's performance as "reminding every woman of her ex-husband." That'll leave a mark.

#35, #36 offer and expand on important information. Can any Republican seek the highest two offices if he is literally "a head case," a la Biden? You'd see billboards, and t-shirts on Matthews et.al. -- "Headcase: Paul Ryan."

#39: You would only need G-d's forgiveness if you didn't hit Biden hard enough.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 10/16/2012 3:17:28 PM     (No. 8937714)

Romney needs only to reply --Is that what you want? The infamous one heart beat away
situation that can happen in an instant-- heir to the presidency?

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Reply 44 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/16/2012 4:09:17 PM     (No. 8937855)

IMPLANTED HEARING AID FOR THE DISABLED
Let's pretend Valerie Jaret and comrades are IN HIS HEAD, speaking to him through a high tech hearing device covertly IMPLANTED his head. This will result in his giving us a sense of pre-occupation, a bit of a delay in all answers, like reporters do from Cairo, and an intuitive feeling he is not right there on the spot! There will surely be some body motion and sound delay gieveaways if this premise is true. How else can this man who doesn't know the facts of his own job, otherwise be so slow witted and lacking in energy. Remember he is is a creature of the disabling teleprompter. Anything he ever said that SOUNDED good, gave the APPEARANCE of sounding good, was FED to him via two or more reading screens of staff writing. All those guys sweating it out in the White House basement should get some credit for their fakery. Nothing more sickening in the writer's world than not getting credit. You know, like all the covenient celebrity books
Security, be sure to KNOW WHERE JARET IS, and her nazi team of body guards, during the entire debate!!

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Reply 45 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/16/2012 4:29:03 PM     (No. 8937907)

But he has such a big expensive smile. Obama uses his so why not Joe? Who cares what he says when he can flash his teeth?

The only one with a bigger phony smile is Obama. I used to say that the best advice I could give anyone dealing with him one on one would be to never stare into his teeth. It's like his Medusa touch. He uses them to paralyze his prey while he picks their pockets.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 10/16/2012 4:48:59 PM     (No. 8937954)

Unskewedpolls.com predicts today that the next President of the United States will ..... be..... Mitt Romney.

Pray that this is correct.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Ole Doc Farmer, 10/16/2012 7:40:44 PM     (No. 8938303)

I think the "debate victory" language is very ironic...or it was tossed out to give Gerson cover to eviscerate Biden. In any event, eviscerated he was. Ugly.

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Interests Are Finally Losing
National Review Online, by Veronique de Rugy    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 3/24/2014 9:23:58 PM     Post Reply
You’ve probably heard recently about the feud between auto dealers and Tesla in New Jersey — as that story is, it’s just the latest and most glaring example of private interests using the government to protect themselves from competition at the expense of other companies and consumers. How about the war on ridesharing? Traditional taxi companies have been targeting innovative up-and-coming alternatives, such as Uber and Lyft. These ride-sharing companies allow anyone who has access to a car to become a budding businessman: Drivers can provide travel services directly to customers using apps. Lyft is a pure rideshare service –

Finally: Russia kicked out of the G-8
Hot Air, by Allahpundit    Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought- 3/24/2014 9:12:08 PM     Post Reply
Technically their membership’s been suspended, subject to reinstatement if/when Putin starts to play nice, but don’t hold your breath. What makes the Crimean invasion ominous isn’t its strategic significance but what it signals about Russia’s commitment to a confrontational posture with the west. The tenor of Kremlin propaganda makes compromise impossible: The Nazis are now in charge in Ukraine, backed by perverts in the U.S. and EU, imperiling ethnic Russians in all former Soviet satellite states. Having taken that line, how does Putin re-join the G-7, especially with (weak) sanctions now in effect? He’s setting Russia up as a counterweight



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Controversy as Donald Rumsfeld says
a ´trained ape´ would manage the
troop withdrawal in Afghanistan
better than Obama

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Daily Mail [UK], by Meghan Keneally    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 3/26/2014 6:17:18 AM     Post Reply
Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has said that ´a trained ape´ could do a better job managing American interests in Afghanistan than President Obama. The retired Republican made the insult while doing a phone-in interview for Greta Van Susteren´s Fox News show on Tuesday. He argued that the President made a serious error by failing to negotiate a status forces agreement with Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Gawker points out that such an agreement would effectively commit the United States to having a certain number of troops in the country for a number of years beyond the already-agreed-upon plan which

Secret Service agents in Obama’s
detail sent home from Netherlands
after night of drinking

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Washington Post, by Carol D. Leonnig & David Nakamura    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/25/2014 10:34:51 PM     Post Reply
Three Secret Service agents responsible for protecting President Obama in Amsterdam this week were sent home and put on administrative leave Sunday after going out for a night of drinking, according to three people familiar with the incident. One of them was found drunk and passed out in a hotel hallway, the people said. The hotel staff alerted the U.S. Embassy in the Netherlands after finding the unconscious agent Sunday morning, a day before Obama arrived in the country, according to two of the people. The embassy then alerted Secret Service managers on the presidential trip, which included Secret Service

At the Supreme Court, a potential
catastrophe for women’s rights

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Washington Post, by Sandra Fluke    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/25/2014 11:58:55 AM     Post Reply
A pair of potentially catastrophic cases will be argued before the Supreme Court on Tuesday. These cases are brought by privately held, for-profit corporations that are arguing their religious convictions should preclude them from offering employees the health insurance required by law. Specifically, these private employers don’t want to allow their employees’ insurance to cover some forms of birth control because, contrary to medicaland scientific evidence, they believe some birth control causes abortions. Corporations are not people. Corporations cannot have religious views. If religious rights are extended to corporations, it puts us on a slippery slope where any private company

Barack Obama Knows Now What It’s Like to
Give a Speech Where Only One Man Claps

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International Journal Review, by Mike Miller    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/26/2014 4:55:39 PM     Post Reply
Okay, THAT was certainly embarrassing. At the end of a joint news conference with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte in the Netherlands on Tuesday, the applause for Barack Obama came from a grand total of one guy. One. After thanking the crowd twice for suffering through his boring, standard worn-out spiel, Obama looked around the room, expecting the usual fanfare and applause he receives from his loyal followers back home. It never came. Instead, the Leader of the Free World was met with one slow, awkward clap. Question: was MSNBC’s Chris Matthews in the house?

Michelle: ´There Were Actually Laws in
America that Allowed Discrimination
Against Black People Like Me´

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/25/2014 12:12:59 PM     Post Reply
First Lady Michelle Obama talked about America as she visited a school today in China. She talked about the American dream: And my story isn’t unusual in America. Some of our most famous athletes, like LeBron James, and artists, like the singer Janelle Monae, came from struggling families like mine, as do many business leaders -- like Howard Schultz. He’s the head of a company called Starbucks, which many of you may have heard of. When Mr. Schultz was a boy his father lost his job, leaving their family destitute. But Mr. Schultz worked hard. He got a scholarship to a

Democratic pollster predicts ´huge
turnout disadvantage´ in 2014

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CNN, by Peter Hamby    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/26/2014 4:57:49 AM     Post Reply
Washington - A leading Democratic pollster predicted a "sobering" turnout disadvantage for her party in this year´s midterm elections and called on Democrats to articulate "a bigger economic agenda" this fall. "There is a huge turnout disadvantage and challenge," Democratic pollster Celinda Lake said Tuesday at a breakfast with reporters. "There is always a challenge in turnout in an off year, but it´s really dramatic this time." Lake was speaking a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. Lake and Republican pollster Ed Goeas revealed results of a new George Washington University poll that showed GOP voter intensity in 2014 outpacing

Harry Reid: People Aren’t Educated
on How to Use the Internet

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Washington Free Beacon, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/26/2014 4:12:52 PM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) said the fault of struggling to sign up on the Obamacare exchanges didn’t lie with the faulty website, but with the people who weren’t “educated on how to use the Internet.” Explaining the reasoning behind the latest Obamacare delay, Reid said too many people just didn’t know to use their computer properly and needed more time. Apparently, it had nothing to do with the well-documented failings of the website that have embarrassed the White House for months. “We have hundreds of thousands of people who tried to sign up who didn’t get through,” he said.

Busted! After promising ´no delay´ in
final Obamacare sign-up deadline, Obama
administration unveils new ´honor system´ *

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/26/2014 12:51:26 AM     Post Reply
The Obama administration is prepared to give prospective Obamacare enrollees another half-month to signup for insurance coverage through the Affordable Care Act website, healthcare.gov, treating the law´s March 31 regulatory deadline as a formality for Americans who claim they tried in earnest to sign up in time. During a March 12 congressional hearing, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told Texas Republican Rep. Kevin Brady that there would be no such extensions. ´Are you going to delay the open enrollment beyond March 31?´ Brady asked. ´No, sir,´ she replied. On the same day, Julie Bataille, a spokeswoman for the

It´s time for White House to start sweating
over legal challenge to Obamacare subsidies

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Washington Examiner [DC], by Philip Klein    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/26/2014 5:25:58 AM     Post Reply
As the U.S. Supreme Court weighed the constitutionality of a contraception coverage mandate Tuesday morning, a federal appeals court heard a separate legal challenge that could have much more sweeping implications for the future of President Obama´s health care law. And if the oral arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit are any indication, it’s time for the White House to start sweating over a lawsuit that up until now has flown relatively below the radar. At issue in the case are the subsidies that the federal government provides for individuals purchasing insurance through Obamacare. Though the text

Andrea Mitchell Slams Hobby
Lobby: ´What Right Do They Have
to Interfere With Medical
Decisions by Women?´

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Newsbusters, by Kyle Drennen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/25/2014 10:21:26 PM     Post Reply
On her 12 p.m. ET hour MSNBC show on Tuesday, host Andrea Mitchell interrogated attorney Mark Rienzi for representing Hobby Lobby in the Supreme Court case against the ObamaCare contraception mandate: "What right do they have, again, to interfere with medical decisions by women?...I mean, this gets to the whole issue of women´s health and why should women be discriminated against in ways that other medical beneficiaries are not?" [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump] Rienzi pushed back: "No one´s discriminating against women, Andrea, all they´re saying is that, you´re right, these are personal decisions,

Harry Reid: Obamacare Delayed
Because ‘People Are Not Educated
About How to Use the Internet’

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Mediaite, by Noah Rothman    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/26/2014 1:47:46 PM     Post Reply
On Wednesday, Obama administration officials announced a two week extension in the deadline to enroll in the Affordable Care Act or face a penalty defined as a tax. Asked about this “delay” in the implementation of the ACA on Wednesday, Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) said that there has been no delay. He added that some of the users who experienced problems with the website early on need more time, partially because “people are not educated about how to use the internet.” “There’s no hiccup or delay,” Reid insisted. “We had hundreds of thousands of people who tried to sign up and

Sotomayor, Kagan: Hobby Lobby Should
Drop Insurance, Pay Penalty and Let
Employees Use Exchange

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Cybercast News Service, by Penny Starr    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/25/2014 3:43:04 PM     Post Reply
During oral arguments in the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday which focused on whether the contraceptive mandate in the Affordable Care Act violates the free exercise of religion, Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan suggested employers who have moral objections to birth control should not provide health care coverage for their employees. “But isn´t there another choice nobody talks about, which is paying the tax, which is a lot less than a penalty and a lot less than -- than the cost of health insurance at all?” Sotomayor said during the presentation by attorney Paul Clement, who represents Hobby Lobby Stores


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