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Joe Klein: "Crazy" Or
"Bigoted" If You Don't
Think Obama's Intelligent

Real Clear Politics, by Ian Schwartz

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 10/8/2012 10:32:44 AM

On this weekend's broadcast of the syndicated roundtable program "The Chris Matthews Show," panelist Joe Klein of Time magazine took exception to Romney surrogate John Sununu calling President Obama "lazy" on Andrea Mitchell's MSNBC program late last week. Mitchell, who was also a guest on Matthews' Sunday show, asked Sununu to apologize when she interviewed him. Sununu refused to do so. "I was clearly troubled," Mitchell said on "The Chris Matthews Show" this weekend. "Just using that phrase 'lazy' and attaching it to this president, to any president, but to this president had all sorts of resonance and

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This is beyond tiresome. There is no evidence whatsoever that 0bama is "intelligent." It's just more evidence why he will never produce his college transcripts. The truth would support what an empty suit he is.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bobgray2, 10/8/2012 10:39:48 AM     (No. 8917785)

OK Klein, you say 0bama is intelligent. Prove it. All we have to go on are his words, his actions, and the media's say so. His unscripted words and actions don't show much intelligence, and as for the media, well we don't think they are particularly intelligent in the first place, so how would they know?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 10/8/2012 10:40:46 AM     (No. 8917788)

Andrea Mitchell is both.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 10/8/2012 10:43:30 AM     (No. 8917796)

How's that Time magazine circulation doing these days Joey?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JimS, 10/8/2012 10:45:50 AM     (No. 8917808)

Of course he is intelligent. But intelligent is a relative term. Intelligent compared to what?
A rock? Yes
A golden retriever? Yes
A Harvard grad? Maybe, because of diversity/AA admissions.
A white male Harvard grad? No
Mitt Romney? Absolutely not.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: VinGoombatz, 10/8/2012 10:46:52 AM     (No. 8917815)

The mind works in two ways, like computer hardware and computer software.

Hardware/intelligence. Yes, Zippy has some intelligence, some capacity for cogitation.

Software/ideology. But, Zippy has ideology that leads to poverty and slavery to a political state. (he is far left)

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 10/8/2012 10:47:25 AM     (No. 8917817)

There is indeed scant objective evidence of Obama's alleged high intelligence. This is perhaps his fault: he refuses to release standard indicators of intelligence such as grades and standardized test scores. There is compelling reason to believe that he did not write Dreams From My Father after Jack Cashill's scholarly deconstruction of the work points to William J. Ayers as the author. We have no solid achievements or examples of excellence from which to infer remarkable intellectual ability in Obama. If one stands back and parses the data carefully, there are only three things to suggest that Obama is unusually intelligent: (1) he SOUNDS intelligent when he talks; (2) he attended Ivy League schools; (3) people like Joe Klein and others swear he is intelligent.

But SOUNDING intelligent is not the same as BEING intelligent. We all know why Obama was able to attend and graduate from Ivy League schools, and his refusal to release standard performance indicators strongly suggests they were nothing to boast about. As for people like Joe Klein and others - their passionate ideology obliges them to attribute positive qualities to Obama that exist only in their own minds.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: disasterman, 10/8/2012 10:55:07 AM     (No. 8917836)

OK, I'll give you that 0bama is intelligent, but there are lots of intelligent losers without a bit of common sense out there.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: shalimar, 10/8/2012 10:56:47 AM     (No. 8917840)

Clearly Obama possesses above average intelligence. But no way is he what researchers in the field describe as "very bright." By contrast, Romney is. My estimate is that Romney has at least 30 IQ points on the Won.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 10/8/2012 10:59:03 AM     (No. 8917844)

Intelligent does not equate to being capable. So call him intelligent if you wish, he still can't do the job.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/8/2012 10:59:40 AM     (No. 8917846)

More race baiting at Hate T.V.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 10/8/2012 11:00:25 AM     (No. 8917848)

I have gone from a vast right wing conspirator to a right wing thug and now I'm crazy and or bigoted.

All they have is personal slander at everyone who disagrees with them.

We need a tsunami next month. A simple wave might be overcome with fraud.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: Grady, 10/8/2012 11:01:09 AM     (No. 8917852)

Donaldson chimed in. "Call me the worst name you can think of".

OK, Barack Obama.
Thats the worst name I can think of.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jackson, 10/8/2012 11:01:54 AM     (No. 8917855)

Remember these morons nodded in agreement when Harvard's Michael Beschloss called Obama the most intelligent president ever.
And let's face it, Bammy is way smarter than Jefferson, or Lincoln, or Wilson, or Roosevelt (Teddy), or Washington, Madison, Adams and such... Harvard should be ashamed.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: rayscain, 10/8/2012 11:08:13 AM     (No. 8917872)

It's OK to call Romney a "felon" and a "liar" but not OK to question 0's intelligence?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bluefindad, 10/8/2012 11:11:11 AM     (No. 8917884)

Depends on what 'lazy' means. If it means that someone is just a layabout who avoids having to expend energy, then Sununu is clearly in error. Obama expends large quantities of energy delivering speeches, attending fundraisers, traveling about on AF1, hitting the links, taking vacations and shooting hoops.

If Sununu's definition of lazy is that Obama avoids going to the office everyday and attending to the necessary duties that comprise the work and service of the PotUS - then yes, he certainly has a point.

The point is that people generally conflate the terms 'lazy' and 'layabout'. This clouds Sununu's point and gives the MSM a fingerhold of criticism. He might be better off giving Obama a new title, "MIA Presidente".


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Hazymac, 10/8/2012 11:16:41 AM     (No. 8917901)

Well, maybe he's smart in comparison to you, Joe. All available evidence points to Obama being smart enough to sling a line of BS that suckers a few gulls. On the basis of what I've observed, I'd give Obama an IQ in the 105-118 range (which would have put him in the bottom quintile of my high school class). Any higher number would require one to believe the hype. Joe Klein probably rings the bell at around 90, which is, to put it politely, ot-nay oo-tay ight-bray.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 10/8/2012 11:18:40 AM     (No. 8917906)

from Joe K's perspective, most anybody who could fog a mirror would be pretty smart.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MickTurn, 10/8/2012 11:23:30 AM     (No. 8917915)

Arrogant, Dismissive, Crooked, Communist, Deceptive, Deceitful Yes, but not very intelligent.

Intelligent people recognize failure and don't repeat it...so there you go!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Douglas DC, 10/8/2012 11:36:09 AM     (No. 8917953)

Let's compare GPA's of Romney and 0-oh wait...

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 10/8/2012 11:38:23 AM     (No. 8917971)

Or observant, Joe.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: john56, 10/8/2012 11:38:57 AM     (No. 8917973)

Obama is, as someone once told me, an example of someone educated beyond his intelligence.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: toddh, 10/8/2012 11:55:36 AM     (No. 8918019)

I take off one IQ point for every million people killed by someone's political philosophy. Many socialists end up with negative IQs, and this severely messes up my subsequent entropy calculations.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: cheeflo, 10/8/2012 12:05:22 PM     (No. 8918040)

Obama has already publicly called himself lazy -- it's on the record, and straight from the horse's ... uh ... mouth.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 10/8/2012 12:06:04 PM     (No. 8918041)

"When you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared."

Gotta love Sununu..

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Reply 25 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 10/8/2012 12:07:46 PM     (No. 8918052)

Agree orig. poster, the narrative of Obama's intelligence is getting old and boring. He showed us exactly just how empty his suit is along with his head. No teleprompter with somebody telling him what to say, he is lost, vacuous and as said, empty.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: KingBubo, 10/8/2012 12:16:19 PM     (No. 8918085)

Can anyone make a criticism of him without being racist. That is what urinated me off so bad about the last election.
Obama-black
McCain-veteran
Palin-woman

You coulnd't criticize any of them without someone playing each respective card.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: TexasRed, 10/8/2012 12:18:51 PM     (No. 8918092)

Zero intelligent? NO!!
1. Needs teleprompter to talk to pre-schooler
2. Said there were 57 states
3. Did not know what capital gains were
4. Could not pronounce "corpseman" correctly
5. Cannot write sentences in which subject and verb agree in singular or plural.

Now tell me he is intelligent!!!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/8/2012 12:21:20 PM     (No. 8918106)

At my company, Obama would be out on the left tail of the bell curve.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dman, 10/8/2012 12:23:20 PM     (No. 8918113)

Is Joe Klein intelligent? How about Karl Marx?

In my understanding, there are different types of "intelligence". One of them is "vision". Being able to see the forest for the trees. Relevant to intelligence are integrity and loyalty to one's country.

I don't question NerØbama's basic "intelligence". I do, however, question the intelligence of many of his supporters - like those who believe in "Obama-money" and "Obama-phones".

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Reply 30 - Posted by: msctex1, 10/8/2012 12:26:49 PM     (No. 8918128)

He's average. Average in every way. Relentlessly, painfully common.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 10/8/2012 12:31:54 PM     (No. 8918136)

Someone with high intelligence does not rely on using words like ''stuff'' or ''got'', or use trite analogies during important speeches.
And BTW, wasn't doesn't the Left return favor and call Romney lazy or stupid?

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Reply 32 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/8/2012 12:50:05 PM     (No. 8918180)

I also don't thing Joe Klein is intelligent. Saying Obama is not intelligent is redundant.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: plainjane, 10/8/2012 12:52:31 PM     (No. 8918186)

There's only one question people like Joe Klein ask when assessing someone's intelligence: How politically liberal is he?

This just proves how ignorant they are of facts, truth and reality.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: mitzi, 10/8/2012 1:00:41 PM     (No. 8918212)

Easy to determine who's smarter.

Let's see college and law school transcripts.

I'll think what I want absent evidence to the contrary.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: wlit22z, 10/8/2012 1:08:55 PM     (No. 8918237)

There is no objective evidence that the Mulatto Kid is any more intelligent than the average person in the US.

Sure, he went to college and law school but there is no evidence that he did well at either of those pursuits. And since he won't release his records, we can only conjecture from what we know and have seen for the last several years.

If I was interviewing him for a job, he'd probably not get past the first go 'round and would not make it to an interview with the dept. manager. He has few or no skills, abilities, or knowledge.

He's a good example of why affirmative action is such a loser. The same goes for his Dissatisfied Spouse. And they have surrounded themselves with other losers.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: arminius, 10/8/2012 1:38:23 PM     (No. 8918287)

Klein and Mitchell were quick to associate "lazy" and "black people."

Perhaps they need to go to re-education camps?

As they say, if only you can hear the dog whistle, then apparently you're the dog.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: OBX Pete, 10/8/2012 1:43:30 PM     (No. 8918294)

What is this Joe Klein dude talking about?

There is nothing worse than the hateful trash that he writes about conservatives in Time magazine.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 10/8/2012 1:47:50 PM     (No. 8918303)

I think what it is is that you are intelligent if you think Obama is crazy and bigoted. There, fixed it.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: bpl40, 10/8/2012 1:48:34 PM     (No. 8918305)

#4, I once had a Golden Retriever who would have run circles round Zippy.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Epirb, 10/8/2012 2:46:45 PM     (No. 8918456)

Compared to lint, Obama IS intelligent. BTW, Andrea, keep fawning and bowing and scraping before Obama and if he wins the upcoming election, you just might become part of Obama's personal press corps, the very thought of which has left you breathless in anticipation the past 4 years. You might even replace the inept Jay Carney!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Sherlock, 10/8/2012 2:56:40 PM     (No. 8918487)

For libtards, everything in their immature lives is bragging about being the smartest, their sex lives, body parts, and skin color.
They can`t give their selves enough praise, trophy's, and cool or god-like names.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: pigop, 10/8/2012 3:52:39 PM     (No. 8918625)

Let me see his transcripts and I will make the judgment as to the level of his intelligence. For now it's he said, she said...that doesn't hold water my "friend".

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Reply 43 - Posted by: jorgecito, 10/8/2012 5:25:17 PM     (No. 8918822)

Joe Klein doesn't get it that it is HE who is bigoted when he throws the hate-word "bigot" at anyone who dares to criticize Obama.

The phrase that was coined to describe the Joe Kleins of this world? "Soft bigot..."
as in "... the soft bigotry of low expectations."

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Reply 44 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 10/8/2012 5:51:52 PM     (No. 8918874)

Have to agree there is little evidence of 0’s supposed brilliance.

One of the best indicators is his response after the debate. When 0-bama speaks, he’s invariably reading someone else’s words, so the “zingers” he’s delivering days later have been crafted for him to recite – the ultimate in pathetic. Obviously, this doesn’t work in a debate – where he actually has to do his own thinking and speaking.

The media and 0-bama camp knew this was coming – they tried to squelch expectations beforehand. There are a lot of people behind the scenes that KNOW 0-bama is an empty suit. They hoped to so damage Romney beforehand that it wouldn’t matter.

But for all of their “strategerizing” they “misunderestimated” their opponent.


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Reply 45 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/8/2012 5:54:35 PM     (No. 8918880)

Obama = garbage in, garbage out.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: stanley, 10/8/2012 7:16:53 PM     (No. 8918983)

Joe Dekleined

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Reply 47 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/8/2012 11:35:17 PM     (No. 8919382)

Ok. Call me crazy and bigoted.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: LadyVet, 10/9/2012 9:01:09 AM     (No. 8919846)

Agree w/ #33. Joe Klein equates liberal politics to intelligence. Therefore, since Obama is a radical leftist, he is the most intelligent president ever. He is so smart, he can improve on Jefferson and Madison's ideas, he can see all the flaws in their thinking as embodied in the Constitution. Just give him four more years, and he'll correct the whole system. /s

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Jimmy Carter has been very active in the decades since his presidency, and his successors have occasionally called for his advice. Except, it turns out, the current occupant of the office. A clip from Carter’s upcoming Meet the Press interview reveals that President Obama is the first president since Carter left office not to solicit the Southern Democrat’s advice. Carter explained, “President Clinton did and President George W. Bush and H.W. Bush and even Ronald Reagan used to call on us to go into sensitive areas.” They all asked Carter to deal with “unsavory characters,” but Obama hasn’t reached out to

Too busy to be president
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American Thinker, by Jeffrey T. Brown    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 3/21/2014 4:06:45 AM     Post Reply
Is Barack Obama simply too busy to be Chief Executive of the United States? Apparently. One of the primary functions of the president is to keep the nation safe, to preserve it from its enemies. To do that effectively, one would actually have to maintain something of a consistent level of attention to the moving pieces that directly influence how future events will unfold. None other than the truly sycophantic thinks for a second that President Obama cares a whit for anything that does not involve fundamentally altering the social composition of this country. Or golf. During the five-plus years

Washington Post busted!
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American Thinker, by Thomas Lifson    Original Article
Posted By: mikkins2- 3/21/2014 8:10:31 PM     Post Reply
A Washington Post story purporting to expose the Koch brothers as behind-the-scenes beneficiaries of the Keystone Pipeline has been exposed as an utterly false propaganda operation, hilariously wrong and politically malicious. Even worse, one of the writers behind the story is married to a political operative in the left wing Koch-demonization machine. The Washington Post was recently purchased by Jeff Bezos of Amazon, who ought to take a hard look at the reporters and editors who collaborated with the left wing smear machine, and while he is at it, should send a note of thanks to John Hinderaker, the blogger

Jeb Bush Praises Illegal Immigrants
as ´Risk Takers,´ Defends Common Core

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Tony Lee    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/21/2014 7:24:57 PM     Post Reply
In a speech Friday, Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush praised illegal immigrants as "risk takers" who embody the entrepreneurial spirit of America and doubled down on his defense of Common Core. According to the Miami-Herald, Bush made his remarks in front of business leaders in Florida. “People who come here legally and illegally are the risk takers,” Bush reportedly said. “If you’re living in a rural area of Guatemala and you come, you’re a bigger risk taker than those who stay,” he added. Of course, the first action of those who come to the country illegally is breaking the law. Bush also said he

Why Does Michelle Obama’s
Mother Live at the White House?

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PJ Media, by J. Christian Adams    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/21/2014 9:28:09 PM     Post Reply
Here’s a question I’ll bet nobody ever asked Jay Carney at a White House press briefing: Why does Michelle Obama’s mother live at the White House at taxpayer expense? (If someone has asked, please send link for me to stand corrected.) Now that Michelle Obama’s mother has caused a disruption on the latest exotic vacation for the first lady, perhaps it is time for some answers about why Marian Robinson is even on the trip to China. Worse, why is she appearing in official photographs with Chinese officials? Drudge is reporting in big bold lead letters that Marian Robinson is barking

Black preschoolers more likely
to face suspension

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Associated Press, by Kimberly Hefling & Jesse J. Holland    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/21/2014 11:11:29 AM     Post Reply
Black students are more likely to be suspended from U.S. public schools — even as tiny preschoolers. The racial disparities in American education, from access to high-level classes and experienced teachers to discipline, were highlighted in a report released Friday by the Education Department´s civil rights arm. The suspensions — and disparities — begin at the earliest grades. Black children represent about 18 percent of children in preschool programs in schools, but they make up almost half of the preschoolers who are suspended more than once, the report said. Six percent of the nation´s districts with preschools reported suspending at

Michelle Obama: It´s very rare
that I have the chance to travel
outside of the United States

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Washington Examiner, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/21/2014 12:50:07 PM     Post Reply
During her visit to China, first lady Michelle Obama pointed out that the ability to travel outside of the United States was "rare" but that she chose China for a reason. "It’s very rare that I have the opportunity to travel outside of the United States, and it’s even more rare to have the opportunity to travel with three generations — with my daughters, and with my mother," she said. "And it is no accident that one of our first trips as a family is here to China." Obama made her remarks while visiting a school in Beijing, with the Chinese first

First Lady Challenges Americans to ´Try
a New Fruit or Vegetable Each Week´

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Cybercast News Service, by Timothy Hill    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/20/2014 6:16:05 PM     Post Reply
College basketball can wait. Did you know that March is actually National Nutrition Month? Today, First Lady Michelle Obama urged Americans via her "Let´s Move!" initiative to challenge their family members to eat one new fruit or vegetable per week in March to faithfully observe the occasion. "March is National Nutrition Month and you can celebrate by challenging your family to try a new fruit or vegetable each week," First Lady Michelle Obama said in an e-mail to supporters today. Never mind that there were less than two "each weeks" left in National Nutrition Month when the e-mail challenge was

Washington Post Falls for Left-Wing
Fraud, Embarrasses Itself

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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 3/21/2014 5:27:43 AM     Post Reply
Today’s Washington Post features an article by Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin headlined, “The biggest lease holder in Canada’s oil sands isn’t Exxon Mobil or Chevron. It’s the Koch brothers.” The article was based on a newly-issued two-page report by the far-left International Forum on Globalization. The Post reported: You might expect the biggest lease owner in Canada’s oil sands, or tar sands, to be one of the international oil giants, like Exxon Mobil or Royal Dutch Shell. But that isn’t the case. The biggest lease holder in the northern Alberta oil sands is a subsidiary of Koch Industries, the privately-owned

Obama: Nancy Pelosi ´will
go down in history as one
of the greatest speakers´

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Washington Examiner, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/21/2014 1:22:42 PM     Post Reply
President Obama took the opportunity to flatter House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi during a fundraiser Thursday for House Democrats at the Florida home of former NBA star Alonzo Mourning. Obama said the California Democrat "will go down in history as one of the greatest speakers in our history" and indicated that he was eager to return her to her former position as Speaker of the House. "She is as tough and principled and as visionary as any member of Congress that we´ve ever seen and I´m grateful to call her a friend," he added. The fundraiser — the first of six Obama has

L´Wren Scott, and the awful
truth about women´s obituaries

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The Week, by Stassa Edwards    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 3/21/2014 4:29:41 AM     Post Reply
W hen news broke that respected fashion designer L´Wren Scott had passed away on Monday, The New York Times noted her suicide with the regrettable headline "Mick Jagger´s Girlfriend Found Dead." The Times wasn´t alone in its faux pas; the Associated Press dutifully tweeted, "BREAKING: Law enforcement: Mick Jagger´ [sic] girlfriend, L´Wren Scott, found dead in NYC of possible suicide." Though the AP managed to slip Scott´s name in the headline of the report, both news organizations seemed to agree: Scott´s death was newsworthy only because of her romantic association with a legendary rock and roller. Editors at neither The New York


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