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Will Pot Become Legal?
Reason, by Steve Chapman

Original Article

Posted By:zoidberg, 10/1/2012 1:42:52 PM

Judging from recent history, any young person who aspires to be president should be aware that certain attributes seem to be critical. You have to be male. You have to have an Ivy League degree. You have to have been a governor or senator. And, don't forget, you have to have smoked marijuana. That is something all the presidents in the past 20 years have in common.(Snip)Logicians will quarrel with my reasoning, arguing that drug use did not propel these men to high office. That's true. But it obviously didn't hinder them.

Comments:
The War on Weed is becoming increasingly unpopular.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Kurto, 10/1/2012 1:57:25 PM     (No. 8902427)

Do we really want to lower America's average intelligence? It's called dope for a reason...


Reply 2 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 10/1/2012 2:07:45 PM     (No. 8902446)

Hat tip to #1.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 10/1/2012 2:14:47 PM     (No. 8902461)

It is simply amazing that any thinking person would argue for more availability of pot... given the recent studies that show it lowers the IQ of younger users...and has a long term effect of lowering the IQ of adults who have used.

Let me get this straight... libs say smoking is bad and evil and unhealthy...but...they also say that smoking pot is good.

Weird.


Reply 4 - Posted by: zoidberg, 10/1/2012 2:19:49 PM     (No. 8902469)

Look at what pot prohibition has cost us, and tell me with a straight face that it's not the drug warriors who have a lowered IQ.


Reply 5 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/1/2012 2:24:45 PM     (No. 8902479)

Not even on my radar.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Maryland_Patriot, 10/1/2012 2:32:02 PM     (No. 8902496)

For all you police state minded types. It's also called hemp. It has many industrial uses. It's not a panacea, but it is also not useless as its detractors insist.

And before someone says hemp is not pot, sorry, it's exactly the same plant.
Cannabis sativa. There is no other recognized variety.

The THC (and other components) levels do vary, but the two plants are classified identically in the standard Latin nomenclature. Hence they are considered the same. That is why you need a permit to grow industrial hemp, aka ditchweed.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Tomas, 10/1/2012 2:32:35 PM     (No. 8902498)

Legalize it. We need to stop making criminals out of people who want to smoke a couple joints in the comfort of their living rooms.

Alcohol does more damage to individuals and society than pot will ever do. Get it out of the hands of the career criminal dealers, put it on the open market, tax it.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: dman, 10/1/2012 2:36:30 PM     (No. 8902506)

As Chapman points out: alcohol is not healthy for the brain either, #1, but we tried prohibition and it was a dismal failure. All it did, as the marijuana ban is doing today, is provide a monopoly for the gangs and cartels. It is a "gateway" drug because you currently must go through a pusher to get it. Once involved with the pusher, it often leads to other things. This would not likely happen if you could grow the weed in your back yard or obtain it legally at lower cost. That is why alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine - all addictive and unhealthy when abused - are not "gateway" drugs.

Pot destroys the brain. It destroys families. So does alcohol. That should be up to individuals and their families to deal with. It should not be the concern of society until it crosses over and affects the rest of us. DWI crosses the line. So do burglaries, shootings, and other activities related to the high costs and profits related to the pushers.

One can argue the net benefit of keeping pot illegal, if resistance were not futile. Like prohibition (and the Borg), however, resistance to human nature is often futile. Better to put resources into rehab, as spotty as its results are. Make it free and available to those who honestly want to quit. That, unfortunately, is the best society can do.


Reply 9 - Posted by: jkcinsalem, 10/1/2012 2:38:16 PM     (No. 8902514)

The legalization of pot is long overdue.


Reply 10 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 10/1/2012 2:50:17 PM     (No. 8902534)

I'm not on the side of those who think pot is less harmful than alcohol, but I also agree with decriminalizing it. The bad effects of booze were the reason behind prohibition, which only encouraged criminals to do even greater evil to make money from it. Same is true of pot, cocaine and even smack. Punish the bad behavior that results from drug use (idleness, impaired driving, violence, child-neglect, etc.), abolish the "impaired-judgement" defense for criminal behavior. Also, stop coddling drug users who undermine their health by indulging in such self-destructive behavior. You won't eliminate all drug use and the ill-effects of it, but things will be a lot better overall.


Reply 11 - Posted by: rubberneck, 10/1/2012 3:25:34 PM     (No. 8902608)

Re: #3: It's simply amazing that any conservative person would argue for government prosecution for use/possession of pot.

Is it bad for you? Yes. Does it lower IQ? Arguably. Is it the government's business? Hell NO!!


Reply 12 - Posted by: RussVet, 10/1/2012 4:03:06 PM     (No. 8902685)

Feel sorry for pot smokers, pot is bad enough but it just leads eventually to worse drugs ...

Having been an engineering supervisor for many years I can spot a pot smoker a mile off, ex: the stare through you look, the glassy eye, and the famous brain dead duh look... I give them work same as the others and when they dont produce like chume ObozoX; I fire them ....


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: provide, 10/1/2012 4:57:13 PM     (No. 8902775)

I think I remember Bork admitting to marijuana smoking and held against him. Cokehead Bammy, no problemo.


Reply 14 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/1/2012 8:43:20 PM     (No. 8903101)

Should we ask the prez of the USA what he think about the issue since he has experience ?



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