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Media Ignore Independents' Swing Toward Romney
Breitbart's Big Journalism, by Dustin Hawkins
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Posted By:Photoonist, 9/27/2012 4:16:08 PM
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| Not long ago, Independents were the go-to demographic for determining who would win elections. How the Independents swung, so too would the election. In 2008, Barack Obama carried Independents in Ohio by 8 points and in Florida by 7 points. (Snip) In both Ohio and Florida, Barack Obama’s “clear leads” all come from heavy over-sampling of Democrats, not from winning the crucial Indie vote. In fact, most of the polls that show Obama with big leads also show Romney handily winning Independent voters. Yet, somehow, Obama manages to increase his performance from 2008 despite Independents now opposing him. Let's take
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Comments: Unless every last registered Democrat came out and voted (and then some, with some voting more than once) 0bama could in no way win a state where he loses the Independent vote, often by double digits. With the Ohio Newspaper Organization, clearly not a pro-Republican group, stating Romney leads among Independents there by 28% what gives with the tallying by polling organizations? And it's going to get worse.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
goose, 9/27/2012 4:28:56 PM (No. 8894413)
It's obvious. The pollsters are expecting the Dems to cheat more to make up for the point spread.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
BaseballFan, 9/27/2012 4:47:14 PM (No. 8894460)
Obamedia ignores anything that puts Obama in a bad light.
There's a whole lot of ignoring going on.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
wtm, 9/27/2012 5:11:30 PM (No. 8894513)
You have to understand, close polling sells newspapers, and has people watching TV.
If they showed a landslide, no one would do that then.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
John c, 9/27/2012 5:23:30 PM (No. 8894549)
He will still have 3 months to damage America.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
NY Betsy Rose, 9/27/2012 5:59:06 PM (No. 8894617)
These polls are all over the place. Too bad they're all so dishonest. Makes them as useless as sneakers on a snake.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 9/28/2012 8:44:26 AM (No. 8895532)
This is the single most telling indicator in all the polling internals. The independents are approximately one third of the entire electorate. If Romney has flipped the independent vote from 2008, there is no way Obama can win. None.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Felixcat, 9/28/2012 8:46:27 AM (No. 8895535)
According to the Larry Sabato outfit (Center for Politics) at the University of Virginia Obama has already won per the 290 electoral votes he collected if the election was held today.
source: Washington Examiner
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
mabelkitty, 9/28/2012 8:52:49 AM (No. 8895549)
All they are doing is pretty much guaranteeing that Dem turnout is dampened. Cheating is no longer a viable option, hence Soros's closing of the Secretary of State Project. He's toast.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
mc squared, 9/28/2012 9:15:35 AM (No. 8895583)
#1; Of course. The reported closeness of the race is to keep the money flowing in. And as an extra added bonus, Dems will claim fraud when they lose because the actual vote doesn't match the polls.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Holeymoses, 9/28/2012 9:36:44 AM (No. 8895653)
Do let us keep Obama pre-occupied with explaining Libya. It may put him off his game, at least for the debates.
In the meantime, Hillary's facial expressions in the various pictures reflect big time concerns for her legacy.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Udanja99, 9/28/2012 9:47:15 AM (No. 8895685)
Zippy is going to lose Virginia too. The constant TV and radio ads he's running tell me that he's in BIG trouble.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
RosietheObserver, 9/28/2012 9:54:57 AM (No. 8895708)
They will cheat. The ads they are running show they are trying to fool the public into thinking that Romney is like Obama and vice versa. If that doesn't work they can vote dead people and stuff the ballot box with fake votes.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
AnnaS, 9/28/2012 10:14:20 AM (No. 8895760)
As I just posted elsewhere--Chris Wallace is on FOX just now saying all trends are showing an Obama win. Dear Lord will somebody tell me why?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
dbdiva, 9/28/2012 10:27:49 AM (No. 8895819)
0bama's up in the polls? My, my must be a lot of free phones floating about out there.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
kayjaymac, 9/28/2012 10:38:01 AM (No. 8895853)
#14, my guess is they are calling all those free phones to get his approval numbers up.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
steph_gray, 9/28/2012 11:25:26 AM (No. 8895976)
#15 Bingo!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
kennedylaw, 9/28/2012 12:09:55 PM (No. 8896102)
Obama is going to get >90% of the Democrat vote, Romney is going to get >90% of the Republican vote, and most of the independents (I'm betting >60%) are going to vote for Romney. Whichever side gets a bigger turnout of their base will win the election.
If we had a much better candidate on the top of the ticket, I think we could reasonably have expected a Republican landslide election similar to what occurred in 1980, 1984, 1994, or 2010. As it is, I think the best we can hope for is a repeat of 2004.
All of the MSM polls currently anticipate that the Democrats will have a much better turnout than they did in 2008, which is nothing more than a liberal fantasy.
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Quiet Observer, 9/28/2012 12:31:03 PM (No. 8896152)
Does anyone really think that the 400+ members of the JournoList (remember, only about 1/3 of them were identified) stopped communicating and strategizing with each other just because Tucker Carlson exposed the list’s existence? Sure, they temporarily scattered – like a bunch of roaches when a light is turned on. But I have no doubt that they re-formed – just a little further underground this time – and continue to act in lock-step with the White House and Obama campaign to influence (control?, dictate?) the MSM message.
The consistency with which the MSM reports glaringly skewed polls accompanied by “Romney’s Bad Week” and/or “Obama’s Insurmountable Lead” stories leads me to conclude that “stories of JournoList’s demise are greatly exaggerated.”
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
foont, 9/28/2012 1:41:32 PM (No. 8896324)
Truly cunning propagandists recognize and play on fears. In this case they play on Republican/conservative fear generated by Hussein's election in 2008: That a majority of the electorate is now so degraded/ignorant/indifferent that they will vote for such a candidate.
They also play on the fear generated among those on the right by Romney himself: That he is, at best, an untrustworthy RINO who never won a majority of Republican votes in the primaries.
Fear works to paralyze reason and halt action.
The propagandists' constant pumping up of Hussein despite the obvious dismal record he has amassed works, they hope, to increase interest and enthusiasm among his base.
My own take is that this will not work. Romney/Ryan will win comfortably. The GOP will hold and even expand its majority in the House and will take control of the Senate.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
jimboendaatl, 9/28/2012 2:55:05 PM (No. 8896521)
Yeah, funny how the Independents are a non-factor according to the MSM, now that they favor Romney.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
snowcloud, 9/28/2012 3:12:56 PM (No. 8896570)
If you want to make it to the election with your sanity in place then in the name of all that is good and holy TURN OFF THE NEWS! Yes, EVEN FOX! Do yourselves a favor. When election day rolls around, do your civic duty and get out and get it done!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Ding! Fries are Done, 9/28/2012 3:54:31 PM (No. 8896681)
#17. I disagree strongly that we would do better if we had a better candidate because our candidate is already very very good. John McCain WAS a bad candidate who was a poor student, a poor pilot, a poor husband, and did not have the temperament to be President. McCain would have done MUCH worse if it weren't for Palin and her ability to electrify crowds.
Mitt has been successful in both the public and private sector and gave up a very lucrative business practice to serve his country. He is squeaky clean, a great family man, and has the values, temperament, and skills needed to save us from the current Presidential disaster.
The problem is that Obama is a complete cult of personality figure (and empty suit..)with armor plated skin that liberal white voters do NOT want to see fail. He has so many skeletons in his closet that the MSM ignores because deep down they know he wasn't qualified to be Prez after 140 days in the Senate, no business or econ experience, etc... Just vote the current scam artist out so we can get back to the business that made the US great.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Ladyhawke, 9/28/2012 7:37:50 PM (No. 8897102)
As a former Republican and a fairly new Independent, I can shed some light on this. Being a Rep means nothing in California and I was tired of being ignored. Now I even get polled! Also, I think a lot of Tea Partiers are sick on lifelong politicians on both sides.
There is no way I wold vote for Obummer. There is no way that I will not vote. I am not alone.
When Demonicrats (meant the typo) call me, after I give them the bad news, I put down the phone without hanging up. That prevents them from quickly calling some other victim. I am considering calling them on election day and telling them I need a ride to the polls. When they drop me back at home, I'll tell them I voted for Romney! At least that's my fantasy - but would not want to be physically harmed.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 9/28/2012 8:00:12 PM (No. 8897139)
Precisely my point made in L.com's other thread. THe pollster's can spin the figures pretty well depending who they are working for. Normally, the polls (if they are to be believed at all) suddenly become more precise as we get closer to election day. But, this time is different. I think they will over-sample the dim voter because of the large exposure they get when trying to portray jug ears as the won.
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