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Understanding Romneycare
American Thinker, by Joseph E. McIsaac
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Posted By:Deedo, 9/27/2012 7:59:45 AM
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| Conservative criticism of Mitt Romney's involvement in Massachusetts' universal health care (so-called "Romneycare") targets one of the most misunderstood issues in the 2012 presidential race. Critics lash out against Romneycare as proof that Romney lacks true conservative credentials, yet a closer look at the political reality that prevailed in the Commonwealth actually reveals that Romney deserves much credit for a principled, high-integrity handling of this legislation.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna, 9/27/2012 8:30:35 AM (No. 8892983)
Republicans always get punished for reaching across the isle.
Dems know better and they never do it.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Mass Minority, 9/27/2012 8:40:46 AM (No. 8893008)
Excellant article and it should be a must read.
There is one other, very important, distinction between the Massachusetts law and Obamacare. The Massachusetts law is legal, Obamnacare, despite the semantic gymnastics of the Roberts court, is not.
Just a note, Massachusetts recieved something like 4 billion dollars from the stimulus package to cover its masshealth costs. out of 17 billion distributed to all 50 states for this purpose (medicaid supports). If I were a cynic I might conclude that a tiny state in the Northeast got 30% of all the medicaid support cash simply to make its mandated healthcare law look good as the national disaster was forced through congress.
Or maybe it was just a run of the mill political payoff to Deval for not making the "Just Words" plagiarism incidant national news.
In any case now that EVERY state will be running massive deficits to cover Obamacare how long are they going to want to subsidize MA? As the federal support inevitably dries up look for MA to rival Illinois and California in the bankruptcy circus in the next couple years.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
sickened, 9/27/2012 9:06:26 AM (No. 8893078)
Romney could have taken a principled stand, used his bully pulpit and vetoes any legislation inserting state government into health care. Instead, he compromised. I expect the same thing from a Romney White House. The only hope we have is that a truly Conservative House won't write the compromises that Romney would sign. And that is a slim hope.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Deedo, 9/27/2012 9:32:43 AM (No. 8893152)
#3, did you see that Romney had 250 vetoes overridden in Massachusetts? 250 out off 250?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
IGWTrust, 9/27/2012 9:34:29 AM (No. 8893158)
Byt does the MA Plan include benefits to SWIU and ACORN as does Obamacare? Or other business not related to your health.
Ryan should read pages of Obamacare at a lecture to Seniors for example. Try Pages59,65 or 95 for beginners.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Davids918, 9/27/2012 9:59:30 AM (No. 8893230)
The simple takeaway on Romneycare, as it's called in MA, is it was fully discussed and debated. Not jammed down the throats by arcane legislative tactics by one party.
And he needs to repeat Pelosi's line, "we need to pass the bill to know what's in it" so all of America hears the Dem party line.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Lawsy0, 9/27/2012 10:01:31 AM (No. 8893242)
It is more properly called Massachusetts Senate President's Care. A mouthful.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
killerbee, 9/27/2012 10:05:03 AM (No. 8893260)
Romneycare is what they're pushing in the headlines right now. Trying to suppress the conservative vote.
And in normal times, I'd let that put me off. What I can't do is allow myself to help Obama win reelection, however. Romney may not be great, but he will never get away with what Obama has. Never. The press will be on him like a duck on a junebug.
Obama has too much freedom to put his socialist edicts in place. He's backed by his corrupt party and by the corrupt media. A Republican won't have that kind of power.
And let's fill congress with conservatives! It's the most important thing of all.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Rakasha, 9/27/2012 10:11:51 AM (No. 8893281)
Understanding the background of health care in Massachusetts does not change what so many of us have been concerned about with Romney. In fact, it reinforces it.
In a State that is full of liberal Democrat voters, the government - over many years - has wrecked the private health care system. So the solution becomes more government control in the form of mandated universal coverage. Romney chose to run for the governorship of this State despite the fact that, to hope to win that office, 'tacit or explicit support for universal health care' was a political necessity. In other words, he deliberately chose to support some version of universal health care for the sake of political expediency, which is what many of us were bothered by at the onset.
The complaint isn't that he 'passed Romneycare'. The complaint is that he was willing to put himself in a situation where he would have to pass it.
My concern with Romney is not 'Romneycare'. 'Romneycare' is a symptom. If republicans don't learn that more government is not the solution to problems they are going to lose conservatives - who do understand that more government is not the solution to problems.
#4, When the Republican House refused, to a man, to vote for Obamacare - despite the fact that it would pass anyway - we stood up and cheered. Sometimes you have to take a stand against something that is wrong, even if you're the only one standing.
Ultimately though, I have to agree with #8.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
worstnightmare, 9/27/2012 10:16:24 AM (No. 8893297)
Hubby and I are on Medicare (with a supplmental policy). He is scheduled for a colonoscopy after having one six years ago because his mother had colon cancer. In trying to find out if the procedure would be covered by Medicare I discovered that yes, it would be covered if he is considered "high risk". The question I wanted to ask was "How is high risk defined? Is he covered?" Impossible to find out. You CANNOT get a straight answer from Medicare because you can't get through to a human. Which leaves me believing that the decisions are left up to bureaucrats. I guess we'll just have to make sure that the surgeon codes the procedure properly to satisfy the Washington minions.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
QRP, 9/27/2012 10:20:06 AM (No. 8893310)
And again you know why Romney will not be president. It is not the conservatives, we will do what we can to put Obama on a new career path starting next January. The problem is Romney can't make a case why he will be better than Obama to the people who voted for Obama last time.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mysterylover, 9/27/2012 10:41:00 AM (No. 8893381)
The media is getting to some folks here. Reading the entire article is helpful. I don't care about Romneycare. He's promised to repeal Obamacare. He's better than the Socialist in office hellbent on taking this country to everlasting perdition. Vote Romney/Ryan and lets get a Republican majority in the Senate.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Deedo, 9/27/2012 12:29:32 PM (No. 8893757)
Are you kidding #11? Romney is going to slash tax rates and undo the bureaucratic monstrosity of Washington DC. Obama wants to increase taxes and regulations. How stark a contrast do you need?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
lil dotty, 9/27/2012 12:41:11 PM (No. 8893783)
Repeal o-care Just do it No talking it to death R E P E A L I T NOW!! and begin anew...if you can. Yes, this is your challenge from WTP
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