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The Film ‘Innocence of
Muslims’ — Made By Terrorists?

Frontpage Magazine, by Walid Shoebat

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Posted By:Judy W., 9/26/2012 7:03:02 AM

When it comes to the film Innocence of Muslims, our government and the media use a narrative mired in contradictions and false statements provided by the filmmaker, who himself is an untrustworthy source. If we stick to what can be proven we might obtain the possibility that terror supporters produced the film. Muhammad Al Dura and Paliwood are two cases in point, showing the type of stunts used by Palestinian terrorists. So lets examine facts instead of the filmmaker’s fiction:

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Looks like a lot of evidence here. Do you think the MSM will touch this?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bearcat, 9/26/2012 7:23:56 AM     (No. 8890706)

I thought about the film being produced by Nakoula for the feds since he was an informant for them (or so it was reported), but this makes more sense. Or it could be both.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: OhMy, 9/26/2012 7:29:40 AM     (No. 8890714)

So the muslim madmen need to produce their own provocations so they an act enraged at western freedoms and drive us to accept Sharia law to make them happy and Obama dives right in to the whole scam with both feet!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 9/26/2012 7:41:08 AM     (No. 8890731)

Let's stipulate this is largely true. It raises huge questions. How is it that the Cairo Embassy / State Dept knew of the video on 9/11, yet its existence was barely known anywhere else? This is the same State Dept that left Americans in harm's way in Libya.

Are we looking at a Fast & Furious-like contrivance? Is this video part of an 'under the radar' operation that resulted in more American deaths?

Is obama et al capable of such treachery?


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Tarheelkate, 9/26/2012 7:44:10 AM     (No. 8890733)

I did some googling around on Walid Shoebat. There are questions about the authenticity of his story. While I do wonder about the history of this bad film trailer, we probably ought to take this story with a grain of salt as well.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: rocket scientist, 9/26/2012 8:35:23 AM     (No. 8890811)

I often wondered whether this film could have been somehow made by the terrorists to fill their need for a handy "outrage" they could rally their followers with? At the very least they are the ones who "found" this obscure piece just before the 9/11 anniversary just in time for more "Arab Rage". The way they latched onto a grainy-looking cartoon that was somehow photoshopped to make it look more sinister the last time around was an example of how they operate. What is really puzzling is how Øbama himself has latched onto the phony narrative about the film being the cause of hurt Arab feelings when everyone and their brother knows the attack on our embassy was a well-planned attack by Al Qaeda operatives. Øbama gives new meaning to the word "phony" and seems to be constantly stuck on stupid when it comes to this film. He is a Devil in disguise.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 9/26/2012 8:39:59 AM     (No. 8890820)

You didn't state what you found in your ''googling around'', or where, #4, but Walid Shoebat is well known in conservative circles as one of the truthworthy. He has been seen and interviewed many times in the years since 9/11 and is recognized as an expert on Palestinian/Arab/MidEast matters. I'm not sure I would entirely trust Google.

However, more to the point, it would not surprise me one dang bit to discover that the terrorists create the turmoil, JUST SO they can then react to it. It's what Democrats do, too. All part of their mutual oppressiveness-in-action playbook.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: starsNstripes, 9/26/2012 8:49:24 AM     (No. 8890837)

I've been saying this since the news first broke.

Obama is using the film to crush our 1st Amendment rights just like he tried to do to our 2nd Amendment rights with Fast and Furious!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: altoona, 9/26/2012 9:02:15 AM     (No. 8890859)

This makes so much sense, and our Terrorist in Chief is in on it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sadc, 9/26/2012 9:21:05 AM     (No. 8890897)

Terrorists don't need an excuse but the "inquiring minds" of the Western world do. It's Wednesday, let's riot, It's Thurday, let's riot again. In fact, every day is good for a riot and killing the infidel. We want to know why. It is because infidels are breathing. "We demand you convert or we kill you." That is their motto. Inventing a film that no one saw, esp after Bill Maher did one with no blowback, shows they have chosen now as the time to show their power and of course, Obama-dinejad, just does the slow dance around it. They know he is their friend.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: Tarheelkate, 9/26/2012 9:24:32 AM     (No. 8890911)

Bad Dog, it was a Jerusalem Post article from several years ago which investigated the bombing Shoebat said he committed and found no record that it occurred.

It could very well be that this film is a false flag operation. I have wondered how the Salafi broadcaster in Cairo "found" it and decided to use it as an excuse for riots.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: captiveinabluestate, 9/26/2012 9:34:17 AM     (No. 8890940)

Hasn't this always seemed like a fishy excuse? Especially hearing how bad the trailer is, there is no movie, and how much it is being pushed forward as an excuse. We are constantly hearing about the movie, the movie, the movie. . . which makes me very suspicious.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: stopevhillary, 9/26/2012 9:51:14 AM     (No. 8890981)

This is not the first story questioning the validity of "the film's" origins, postulating that it was a creation possibly of our own State Dept. It was a Canadian Free Press article. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/49747

It left me with unanswered questions, but a worth serious in connecting the dots.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 9/26/2012 9:51:41 AM     (No. 8890982)

"Made By Terrorits?" Try "Made By Axelrod."

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Reply 14 - Posted by: 2dogs, 9/26/2012 10:08:16 AM     (No. 8891023)

Anyone who has seen the trailer suspects this was made by someone to "look" like a Middle East amateur production. I suspected from the minute I saw it it was made by us! And used to wag a dog. Then get us to stifle free speech. Despicable.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: trapper, 9/26/2012 10:12:31 AM     (No. 8891037)

So, this was just another failed fed operation like Fast and Furious? The feds think they can catch a terrorist by letting this guy walk and make a movie with his terrorist buddy? But it all blows up on them? Amateur night in the clandestine services. BYOB

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mickturn, 9/26/2012 10:16:31 AM     (No. 8891049)

A lesson from the Chicago Way DIMS...

"Never let a crisis go to waste."

Oh, to hell with it, let's create our own crisis and then save the world by 'solving it', OUR WAY.

Muzzies, Oh so that's how we get an excuse to riot and go nuts...create our own Mohamad bashing video then freak out about it.

Thanks Dims, you are SO MUCH HELP!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: skedaddle, 9/26/2012 10:23:12 AM     (No. 8891078)

#4 are you referring to Debbie Schlussel's website. In Googling Walid Shoebat I come up with an article she wrote in 2008 where she doubts his story and says he's harassing her?

Whether Shoebat is good or bad doesn't really matter in this case though. The little Youtube "film" is so inept and convenient that I suspect it was made by Friends of Obama. And has anyone explained who dubbed it into Arabic languages so the Arab street could understand it or is that too bold a question?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: geoman, 9/26/2012 10:47:02 AM     (No. 8891140)

So how does that Jones guy from Florida fit in? Since he is not camera shy, wouldn't it be basic journalism to get him on record discussing his involvement (or lack thereof) or the etiology of the film and his involvement, if any?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 9/26/2012 11:07:02 AM     (No. 8891199)

That this could be true should not surprize us. This is a leftwing tactic known under the category as "agitation and propaganda."

We know that the BO & his people are very adept at lying, twisting and contorting the truth, spinning amazing tales.

As many of us here saw coming in 2008 should BO win the election, we are in serious, serious trouble. Frankly, BO has accomplished more than i thought he could in such a short time. Needless to say the corrupt Dem/Lefty Congress facilitated and accelerated the demolition of our Republic.

Compounding our national crises are those in virtually every State around the world.

Ask your lefty friends, or the "on the fencers" whom they would rather have as the arbiter of Order in the world, as the authority over us.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: big red navy cheif, 9/26/2012 11:33:17 AM     (No. 8891268)

Has the link died? I cannot gain access to the original article.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 9/26/2012 11:37:15 AM     (No. 8891278)

" There are questions about the authenticity of his story."

As a Muslim who has renounced terrorism and now sides with the West, what sort of references were you expecting?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 9/26/2012 12:23:57 PM     (No. 8891387)

fiction

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Deedo, 9/26/2012 12:58:04 PM     (No. 8891459)

Agitprop in the extreme. Say you were someone ambitious in an Islamic country. You wanted to get "ahead". Your followers were mostly mindless Islamic drones. How would you gain power?

Why, create a film that would trigger your drones into action!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mean Gene, 9/26/2012 2:24:06 PM     (No. 8891629)

If what Walid says is true, it won't have been the first time Muslims have drummed up lies to whip up their own rabble.
*CAIR used to report cases of arson that turned out to be not hate crimes but done by Muslims themselves for insurance money.
*The Danish cartoons were nothing UNTIL Muslims added three awful, nasty ones to the mix.
Then the riots ensued.
*Al Dura is alive and well to this day, his dad even got arrested for shooting a gun into the air after his son's wedding!
That whole movie was a Muslim production to try to make Israel look bad.
Takiyya and Kitman are accepted in Islam.
One is out-&-out lying the other is the with holding of as much truth as helps their side.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: JLoophole, 9/26/2012 2:47:52 PM     (No. 8891687)

When this first happened, I called it a possible Tawana Brawley movie. That was just an off the cuff observation, because it seemed to fit the mold. Hmmmm.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: JDD, 9/26/2012 3:33:56 PM     (No. 8891792)

Wag the dog??

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Tarheelkate, 9/26/2012 5:33:54 PM     (No. 8892056)

#17, I found the Debbie Schlussel (sp?) article, but she sounded perhaps unreliable. She linked, however, to the Jerusalem Post report. That suggested that Shoebat may have exaggerated his participation in Jihad before his conversion. That doesn't mean he's wrong in this article. The key would be to check his allegations here are see if they pan out. It's not unreasonable to think that this poorly-done film might be a false flag operation.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: pickle1, 9/26/2012 6:39:35 PM     (No. 8892184)

Anyone remember Jimmy Carters little home movie charades? After election we see who he and his family really are. The Clintons and their home movies the same thing. Why are we surprised?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: wtm, 9/26/2012 8:55:59 PM     (No. 8892366)

This could have been a two-fold scenario, One the Government whipped up this movie to try and make a crisis on 9/11 that they could use for propping up their boy Obama !!!!

Second, the Muslims were already working on using 9/11 for another attack somewhere.

The two events just came together by chance !!!

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If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

Clintons celebrate Chelsea’s
pregnancy announcement

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New York Post, by Stephanie Smith    Original Article
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The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

The Growing Financial Disaster of Obamacare
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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
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President Obama asserts that 8 million people have signed up for Obamacare, as though that were something to be proud of. In fact, Obamacare has always been a fiasco from a fiscal perspective–a black hole of subsidies and expanded Medicaid, with largely fictitious mechanisms in place to pay for it. As the number of subsidized participants grows, the disaster gets worse. Charles Blahous explains: Our national discussion…is missing the truly significant story here; what is unfolding before our eyes is a colossal fiscal disaster, poised to haunt legislators and taxpayers for decades to come. It is quite possible that the ACA is

Gospel story of Jesus’ resurrection a
source of deep rifts in Christian religion

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Washington Post, by Kimberley Winston    Original Article
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“On the third day, he rose again.” That line, from the Nicene Creed, is a foundational statement of Christian belief. It declares that three days after Jesus died on the cross, he was resurrected, a glimmer of the eternal life promised to believers. It’s the heart of the Easter story in seven little words. But how that statement is interpreted is the source of some of the deepest rifts in Christianity — and a stumbling block for some Christians, and more than a few skeptics. Did Jesus literally come back from the dead in a bodily resurrection, as many traditionalist


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