Reply 1 - Posted by:
Maybeth, 11/7/2009 5:46:46 AM (No. 6007542)
It appears that Pelosi got the message when voters ousted incumbents in the states of New Jersey and Virginia. She has no time to waste and will attempt to attach the bill onto another. Or this crazy woman will just boldly announce that she doesn't care that Congress has voted "no."
WHY aren't she and her corrupt pals being arrested for attempting to destroy our Constitution ... the one they vowed to protect? Are ALL of the Democrats and DC attorneys corrupt? Hugo Chavez is applauding.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
truthtopower1, 11/7/2009 5:55:29 AM (No. 6007549)
What iF they pass it and NO ONE obeys?
What if Americans sue pelosi for trampling their Constitutional rights?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
jonahfan, 11/7/2009 6:15:20 AM (No. 6007572)
Everybody points out that the lemmings only ran over the cliff because they were herded over it by Disney's producers. Well, that is a pretty good metaphor in this case.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
saleboter, 11/7/2009 6:21:50 AM (No. 6007577)
Smart congressmen realize that to vote for this monster before the senate votes is suicide. The house version won't survive the senate and they will have walked the plank for nothing.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Gerty, 11/7/2009 6:35:40 AM (No. 6007599)
I know I should learn more about how the government of the US works (and I intend to) but shouldn't the Supreme Court be stepping in right about now?
It would seem to me that when there is a question of constitutionality, everything should come to an abrupt halt and Congress wait for the Justices to settle the matter!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
pineledger, 11/7/2009 6:56:57 AM (No. 6007638)
I don't think SCOTUS would step in before the law is enacted. They should, though.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
albertusmagnus, 11/7/2009 7:19:47 AM (No. 6007676)
The Dragon Lady has had to allow an effective amendment against federal funding of abortion, the Stupak-Pitts, to be offered, to enable this pile of health-care **** to be brought to the floor. Go to the NRO Corner to get the link to phone your representative to urge them to vote for this amendment.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
ocjim, 11/7/2009 7:20:10 AM (No. 6007678)
Bela Pelosi's afraid to pull the trigger on the vote because she doesn't want to take the chance of a humiliating loss like happened to her good buddy Harry ''Can't Count'' Reid a couple weeks ago in the Senate.
And although the news media coverage was poor, I still think Thursday's protest was huge in slowing down this bill... Reports are that Thursday noon you could hear the intensity of Rep. Michele Bachmann's 20,000+ House Call protesters all over the Capitol. No small effect on any Congress Critter, IMO. The Dems are not geniuses but they're politically attuned enough to know that all that noise Thursday and the Congressional office visits were just a taste of the anger and concern awash in this nation now.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Spidey, 11/7/2009 7:44:39 AM (No. 6007728)
To illustrate how dumb the liberals are, MoveOn is going to run liberal candidates against moderate dems in red areas of the country.These same bozos are those pressuring Obama to throw the towel in on Afghanistan.I think doing that will present Obama with a a bigger Waterloo oppurtunity than healthcare.When you have a board certified left nut job like Rosa Brooks the number 3 civilian at the Pentegon bad things will happen.He has an ACORN activist working right out of the WH as they get exposed as a criminal organization.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
gop juggernaut redux, 11/7/2009 7:46:13 AM (No. 6007731)
I think Krauthammer is right - this monstrosity passes the house and dies in the Senate. The Senate deliberations are going to push into next year - 2010 - with unemployment numbers getting worse, or no better. I don't see the Senate passing anything substantial.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
rplat, 11/7/2009 8:14:13 AM (No. 6007786)
Il Duce Pelosi is driven without reason or sound intellect. Her sole purpose in life is to further the cause of liberalism and to create a pure Marxist state. Who in the world would have ever believed this once great Republic could devolve into such a sad state.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
LambiePie, 11/7/2009 8:15:06 AM (No. 6007787)
This might help with any phone calls today: http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm...like someone said yesterday...melt the phones.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Maynard G Krebs, 11/7/2009 8:21:21 AM (No. 6007799)
Any Congress Critter that votes 'YEA' for this monstrosity should be sent to Gitmo for violating their oath of office! They did take an oath to 'Defend The Constitution from enemy's both foreign and domestic'. Any one who votes 'YEA' is the enemy of the Constitution! Where does it give the Federal Gubermint the power to mandate that the citizens of this once GREAT Republic have to buy anything?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
cap MarineTet68, 11/7/2009 8:22:56 AM (No. 6007802)
I can recall an incident not too long ago where the Republicans forced the issue, knowing the Democrats could not muster the necessary votes. They kept trying to rehash it inside the cocoon of the sycophantic presstitutes, hoping to pressure borderline congress critters into voting their way. The Republicans forced their hand and thus exposed the perfidy. Call the question!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Willie Rags, 11/7/2009 8:37:30 AM (No. 6007862)
Yikes.
Check out the photo.
Seriously. She looks like the Crypt Keeper.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
saryden, 11/7/2009 8:41:59 AM (No. 6007879)
The "hope & change" so many starry-eyed, naive & gullible voters fell for has put America in Crisis. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Barack Obama, Frank Raines (did he pass on?), Jaimie Gorelick, and others who brought this economic debacle on us through FannieMae & FreddieMac must be so PROUD (like Michelle) of America now! Treason!!!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Sooner, 11/7/2009 8:42:06 AM (No. 6007881)
During last year's presidential campaigns, I knew that electing Obama would be a serious mistake for the country but I never dreamed that we would be the victims of a Brave New World philosophy.
If you'd like to see the disaster that this bill comprises check out the article on the Opinion Journal site written by a person who as actually read and parsed the bill.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Rake King, 11/7/2009 8:44:04 AM (No. 6007886)
Those of you (like me) who hate the AMT, I hope you read Friday's (11/6/09) WSJ editorial "The Inflation Tax is Back".
It seems Queen Nancy has several "Non-indexed" (for inflation) goodies on her tray for you, to further drive you crazy as your pocket gets picked in out years. I would explain what, but don't want you to not read about it. WARNING: to the Dems who gave us AMT (unindexed), that at it again.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Butch59, 11/7/2009 8:50:16 AM (No. 6007909)
Re.#5. Sadly, the judicial system in this country is reactive, not pro active. They cannot and will not step in and stop an attempt of un-constitutional activity. Before they can act, someone has to have suffered harm. Then, and only then, can a lawsuit be brought against the action that has caused that harm. And the individual or whom ever was harmed has to have "standing" before the court before it (the court) will entertain a suit. Pretty convoluted, but that's the way it is. Dims know this and rely on it to get things passed. They also know that the court system is VERY slow to render any judgement, and by that time, most people will have accepted whatever and moved onward.
I just hope that the recent activities has scared the "blue dogs" enough for them to crap a green squealing worm and run as far from Pelosi as possible.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
pineledger, 11/7/2009 8:53:54 AM (No. 6007921)
I would not trust Nancy to keep falling back and falling back until she can pass something just so she can claim victory. All the libs will give her high marks for trying and will call the conservatives spoil-sports (and worse). I don't think it matters one bit to Pelosi, Reid, or Obama what they pass. Just so they pass something. Beware.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
starboard, 11/7/2009 8:55:18 AM (No. 6007930)
Have no fear, we are in the process of taking back our country. The radicals in the WH will be 86'd and Pelosi will be replaced. The people of this nation will not stand for this treason. Our next oval office resident will be an honorable patriot, who can prove his/her birthplace, who pays his/her taxes, is a conservative with a strong moral fiber, but most of all someone we can trust. No more razzle dazzle with props and teleprompters and political BS. Im not sure who that person will be yet, but I do know he/she will win in 2012. Semper fi.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
olrtex, 11/7/2009 8:58:14 AM (No. 6007939)
No.5, the U.S. Supreme Court does not give advisory opinions. There must be a "case or controversy" before it for it to render a decision. In addition, it has very little "original jurisdiction," so a case must almost always begin with a plaintiff filing a lawsuit in a District Court. The case can then be tried and work itself up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court never renders an opinion on the constitutionality of a law before the law is passed by Congress and signed by the president.
Also, this subject is being handled where it should be handled: in the legislative branch of the government.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
jj1319, 11/7/2009 9:17:38 AM (No. 6008009)
Am I the only one that misses crazy people of yore? The ones that stuck their hand in their shirt and claimed to be Napoleon but were otherwise harmless? Or the tortured, twisted logic used by a seemingly sane businessman revealed during a high tension courtroom breakdown, prodded by Perry Mason? Why is it that the current crop of 'crazies' has a single tactic Lie, lie, lie. About everything. And they do it with virtual impunity. Even if the press were to report their contretemps, their supporters are too stupid to be offended or even care.
I guess I'm just old fashioned.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 11/7/2009 9:24:03 AM (No. 6008026)
The urgency is to allow the legislation to "catch up" with the illegal actions Obama has already taken.
Buried in the Stimulus Bill was funding for ALL Obama's initiatives to re-structure & create the infrastructure to manage his plans.
Most of the stimulus funds will be spent in 2010 on staffing all the ginormous organizations to monitor us.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
nightvision, 11/7/2009 9:37:00 AM (No. 6008059)
#15, She IS the crypt keeper. Most of her flock are dead. They just don't know it yet.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Sunsong, 11/7/2009 9:48:00 AM (No. 6008091)
Keep up the pressure. It's not going to take much to kill this monstrosity.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
algonquin j calhoun, 11/7/2009 9:49:37 AM (No. 6008096)
Seems like the letters, calls, emails, marches don't work. Probably because the majority of the protesters were white and congress don't listen to white people. Change the color of skin and they would have backed off months ago.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
sinatra4, 11/7/2009 9:52:28 AM (No. 6008105)
...Speaking of Blue Dogs...Have a look at this
"Parker Griffith: Please don’t call me a Democrat. PLEASE!
In an interview this week, Politico Magazine reported:
Parker Griffith (D-Ala.)
“[Parker Griffith] won by a hairbreadth in 2008 — with 51 percent of the vote — and . . . [he] said he wasn’t sure exactly how loud the message from Tuesday’s Democratic losses in the Virginia and New Jersey gubernatorial races were, but he said the point was clear.
“I should be nervous,” he said.
He said the current Democratic agenda has “the potential to cost some of our frontline members their seats.”
He also asks that he be identified as a conservative, independent Blue Dog — rather than as a Democrat.”
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Bad Ice, 11/7/2009 9:53:27 AM (No. 6008112)
My Blue Dog Dem posted a press release saying that she is is voting NO on the Pelosi Health Care Bill.
Go Steph H-S! Sent a thank you email too.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Lawsy0, 11/7/2009 10:16:17 AM (No. 6008205)
Right on, #15. Instantaneously, when I see the name Pelosi in print, my mind's eye switches to the evil witch from Wizard of Oz. So imagine what a photo of her does. Her flying monkies keep switching faces, however.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
gop juggernaut redux, 11/7/2009 10:54:58 AM (No. 6008330)
Don't be too disappointed when this passes today or tomorrow. It will. but I think it is in big trouble in the Senate.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
fysammy, 11/7/2009 11:05:01 AM (No. 6008376)
Democrats have "Fatal Conceit"
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
farmwife, 11/7/2009 11:05:06 AM (No. 6008377)
I'm sure Ms. Pelosi is sure she will win this, and when she is President, she take care of those who crossed her.
She was the first woman speaker, and I'm sure she sees herself as the first woman president. Which goes to show how out of touch she is.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Elvira, 11/7/2009 11:12:45 AM (No. 6008423)
It could get very messy if there was a national revolt if this thing passed. How many of us could they put in jail?
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
JoniTx, 11/7/2009 11:15:51 AM (No. 6008438)
Highly recommend turning on C-Span. Watch this debacle.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
gandolphxx, 11/7/2009 11:36:46 AM (No. 6008513)
Well if they pass it then we will have a list of every house rep to go after in 2010 - nice of them to identify themselves.
Nasty Nan knows that she will get re-elected no matter what - obviously she is quite comfortable with lining up the at risk group and welding them into the kamikaze planes.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
PLPointer67, 11/7/2009 12:08:37 PM (No. 6008607)
We should never, ever, NEVER underestimate the depth of deceit of those who are out to gain POWER. This grab for power over the lives of others appears to be concentrated today in Nancy Pelosi, Pres. Obama, and those on the Left, but the temptation & syndrome is universal.
This is a Truth: “The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men and women to do nothing.”
If ‘The Bill’ is not passed today, be happy. But don’t lower your guard -- because those seeking power over you (in all Parties) will try again, and again, and again.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
MeOpinionatedNah, 11/7/2009 1:16:33 PM (No. 6008772)
Ever notice that whatever Nefarious Nancy says, even when she’s lying, she says it with a straight face?
Uh, come to think of it… M?O?N!
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
sinatra4, 11/7/2009 1:43:40 PM (No. 6008857)
Yes # 34...very messy indeed
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
gruntled, 11/7/2009 2:58:38 PM (No. 6009042)
Mrs Grunt reports that her liberal co-workers are expressing dismay, that they did not know Obama would turn out this way. She pointed out that he is doing just what he said he would do, and what his opponents said he would do. When they respond that they did not know that, she replies along the lines that you weren't paying attention.
The level of dismay and sense of betrayal is already through the roof, and heading higher. I suspect it is going to be a bloodbath for D's in 2010, including some "safe" D's. Let it be so.
Grunt sends
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
larryp, 11/7/2009 3:30:33 PM (No. 6009137)
What worries me is that the Gop gets in the Cong and Senate, veto proof. And then they see all the power that the Donks have set up.Plus that the Gop wants to be liked. Then the Gop will say, I fear..."Well, the Health care is partly ok, and we can fix this and 1/2 of cap and trade is ok. And Coal-Schmoal, lets get rid of half the coal mining." Everything weaseled. Squishes! We will have tio get rid of them too. Be prepared for a 2nd fight.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
RedWhiteBlue, 11/7/2009 3:31:08 PM (No. 6009140)
Pelosi is starting to look very much like Michael Jackson (while still living, I think). She has this ''still upper lip'' thing going on and a blank stare that only she knows what's going on behind them blinking shark yes. A zonmy0like stare, just like 0baba, the soros' zombie boy.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
REXHANDSOM, 11/7/2009 4:29:20 PM (No. 6009292)
Reply 5 & 6
What ever Law is Passed from the Congress is Law if signed by the ONE, but can become Law if not signed and Congress reconsiders by 2/3 it becomes Law as if signed. Just a short explanation ...
The Law Is then the Law ....... SCOTUS has nothing to say about it unless put before them by some objector and then accepted for ruling
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Motorcycleboy, 11/7/2009 4:50:53 PM (No. 6009338)
#8, I was there for the House Call, including to Pelosi's office. The line was all the way down the hall, out the door, and down the street (as it was for the other two office buildings).
We were chanting "KILL THIS BILL" in the hallway -- very loud with the echo. The Pelosi police were impatient with us, arbitrarily having us line up single file after we were already two abreast, then threatening us with expulsion if we didn't comply. Also threatening arrest if you stayed around even for a few seconds after signing in on the roster for Pelosi's office.
There were several arrests.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
TheTech, 11/7/2009 5:38:17 PM (No. 6009450)
In just a few short hours, the final change in AmeriCa to AmeriKa will have begun.
This vote will be 218 to 217 with no Repubicans voting for it. What sad day!
Does anyone have any extra butter for my popcorn? I may as well bring on the fatal heart attack on sooner than later, as I am not going to get care anyway - I am in the wrong political party!
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
karo, 11/7/2009 6:33:48 PM (No. 6009607)
Nasty P. is on my screen now - simpering in an ugly red dress. Get the hook!
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
nurseratchet, 11/7/2009 6:51:24 PM (No. 6009658)
I could tell the timing was being stretched out.......I could tell by the look on her face!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha OH I Kill me! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
TheTech, 11/7/2009 7:15:14 PM (No. 6009721)
Is it me or is there a visible difference between The Republicans amd The DemocRATs? The Republicans look sharp and speak with intelligence while I am not sure the same can be said of the other side.
Me thinks it may be because the voters in the Republican districts are not going to elect stupid people. If these DemocRATs are reflective of their constituents then they must represent some very stupid people,or at least enough of them who vote for them.
God help us all! This will pass 218-217. Go eat your dinner. This is not going to change. It will only get worse when all The Blue Dogs cave and vote for it.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
KathiS, 11/7/2009 7:33:12 PM (No. 6009759)
I am so scared. As a family of 4, we pay less than $15,000 per year for insurance right now. We physically can not afford their insurance. How can it cost $15,000? I honestly don't know what we will do if this passes...I have written my congress-people. I have written the Senators.
They are supposed to be helping, but they are making life worse for so many, who will end up in jail because we can't pay their price.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
Tripwhipper, 11/7/2009 7:49:42 PM (No. 6009787)
Poster #5, one need only recall the executive branch court packing intimidation that led to SCOTUS' violation and overturning of the constitution's general welfare and commerce clauses during the great depression, that continue to haunt us to this day with vast swaths of illegitimate federal govt, to know that SCOTUS is the weak sister of the three branches that has failed miserably.
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