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Senate passes bill guaranteeing back pay
for workers after shutdown ends

New York Post, by Laura Italiano

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/11/2019 6:08:35 AM

The Senate had good news and bad news for the 800,000 federal employees who won’t get paychecks on Friday because of the partial government shutdown: Yes, they will be paid, but no, not until there’s a deal to restore funding. The mixed news came Thursday afternoon, when senators voted unanimously to authorize the eventual post-shutdown funding of back pay. Once the House passes its own bill, President Trump will sign it, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said in calling the measure to a voice vote. “I had an opportunity to talk to President Trump a few moments ago, and wanted


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Reply 1 - Posted by: M2, 1/11/2019 6:29:32 AM     (No. 11889336)

So only 25% of the government was shut down. I don’t know anyone who’s life has been affected by this shutdown.

Call me cynical but there really was never a question about backpay to begin with. They were always going to get paid. This is purely a CYA bill.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: privateer, 1/11/2019 7:22:28 AM     (No. 11889393)

If they will be paid but not working, that is called welfare. Subtract the amount from their pensions.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: MoBeef4u, 1/11/2019 7:39:20 AM     (No. 11889407)

Shouldn´t all the furloughed workers be enjoying their "f-unemployment"? That´s what Obama told regular American workers when his policies were destroying (by design) their jobs.

Maybe these government workers whose pay far exceeds that of their private sector counterparts will learn strategies so they´re not living paycheck to paycheck; although very few had actually missed a check until this week. Just the usual lies that we´ve come to expect.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bubby, 1/11/2019 7:42:58 AM     (No. 11889409)

Why do they get back pay for not working? In the public sector we get laid off or downsized and collect unemployment until recalled or rehired. Why can´t they? Why are these overpaid, under worked nonessential government employees with extravagant benefits so special? The Federal government has become nothing more than a giant affirmative action program IMHO!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 1/11/2019 8:00:24 AM     (No. 11889423)

They shouldn´t get full back pay.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: sam1, 1/11/2019 8:04:44 AM     (No. 11889429)

All non-essential positions should be eliminated.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: gone2pot, 1/11/2019 8:33:22 AM     (No. 11889454)

Eighty three percent of the budget is funded, period. Seventeen percent is not. The twenty five percent number is misleading by design. Of the four major shutdowns, and every minor shutdown (there have been thirty total since 1976); those furloughed and those who work without paychecks have been fully paid when the discretionary spending of the budget (which right now is 17 percent) is fully funded. Every. Single. Time.

As the politicians like Mitch continue to focus on the critical importance of the government and that without it, we all die because actually limiting its power per the Constitution would make the sun explode five billion years early, the "immoral" wall which has worked brilliantly throughout history every single time it´s tried is at a ridiculous political stalemate because Orange Man Bad.

If it is ever built though, you can count on a Trojan Burrito gift from the southern border that will fool most voters, both the GOP and Marxists and then issue will be which salsa to use. While that future salsa debate ensues, the MS-13 gangs, drug lords, human traffickers, and terrorists will pop out of the burrito and enter illegally anyway. Yes, we ARE that stupid.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: MickinPhoenix, 1/11/2019 8:33:40 AM     (No. 11889455)

I agree with Reply #6. No company in the world is successful by paying for non essential workers. Workers who now are being paid will be working at HALF PAY and those non essential who are not working will be getting paid for not working. DUMB. Eliminate all Non essentials by freezing all new personnel until all non essentials are eliminated. Let them go to work like the rest of us who WORK to get opaid.....Mick

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/11/2019 8:34:11 AM     (No. 11889456)

This seems to be the only thing the Congress can get passed. Always take care of themselves, leaving us to pay for it.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 1/11/2019 8:34:55 AM     (No. 11889457)

So, the Democrats use this as a standard ploy all the time, which advances their political agenda, while inconveniencing the Federal workers who depend on work to put food on their table, just like all the rest of us. But, oh, the Demonrats will make all this OK by promising those affected with "back pay" to make up for using them like circus props in their game of thrones with the White House. Interesting that this never happens when the Republicans run the House.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/11/2019 8:56:18 AM     (No. 11889476)

Fire them all and eliminate their positions! Let them get on with their lives instead of stringing them along. So all you citizen journalists out there who whine about your FOIA requests not being answered,m blame it on all those non-essential employees. Yeah, because the private sector is so great that is why the federal government had to create an agency just to review the tainted food being sold to the US Army in World War 1. Let´s get rid of agencies like the FAA because we all know airlines only care about the safety of their passengers and not the bottom line.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: varjo, 1/11/2019 8:58:44 AM     (No. 11889479)

#1 is correct.

My life is going along seamlessly during this shutdown.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/11/2019 9:07:29 AM     (No. 11889487)

The departments that have budgets are: DoD, VA, Energy, Legislative (Congress) , Labor, Ed and HHS. With the exception of the DoD and maybe the VA (no mention of Veterans in the Constitution for those who want to be Constitution pure) - useless departments like Labor, Ed and HHS are funded - feel better?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: preciosodrogas, 1/11/2019 10:07:56 AM     (No. 11889561)

Then what is the point of the shutdown? 25% of the government (or 17% h/t to gone2pot) gets a weeks of paid for not working. How does that force anyone to come to the table with a reasonable attitude? This 25% are 90%+ dems so the dems who refuse to discuss funding the wall are just taking care of their own.
Usually, when trying to force -force being the key word- the other side do something they don´t want to do you do something that causes them pain.
Only in the government does forcing people to get paid for not working constitute causing pain.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ribald1, 1/11/2019 10:14:03 AM     (No. 11889566)

I´d like to see a headline;
Trump grants hundreds of thousands a paid vacation.
That´s what this is.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: dvc, 1/11/2019 10:16:47 AM     (No. 11889570)

Yep, no reason in the world to not let this run for a year or two.

This is just paid vacation for these folks.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: anniebc, 1/11/2019 10:17:09 AM     (No. 11889571)

Paying people for not working is a higher priority than securing the border, apparently. The government class is more important than the taxed enough already class.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: meidei, 1/11/2019 11:09:50 AM     (No. 11889656)

This time off should be considered as paid vacation time.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: zek, 1/11/2019 11:13:24 AM     (No. 11889661)

Feds have always gotten back pay after these shutdowns. Half the fed employees are non essential year round. The only reason we have so many fed employees because it is a leftist jobs program. You have tons of duplicate services within agencies.

Not a mortgage company or lender would dare foreclose on a fed employee now. All they need to do is call their lender, landlord or whoever. They will get a break now

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Krullerman, 1/11/2019 11:21:31 AM     (No. 11889672)

It´s good idea –– and RIGHT idea. These people did not go on STRIKE. They did not QUIT. Theye didn´t take time off from work to participate in a stupid anti-American Protest Demonstration

It is the fault of DEMOCRAT´s recalcitrance that they are not being paid, so the ´Rats have no right whatsoever to try to capitalize on this unfortunate situation. that THEY have created

But it´s really nothing but a tempest in a teapot.

Meanwhile, I BEG President TRUMP not to waver, and never, never, NEVER to CAPITULATE n matter what.

I´d rather see our president MARTYRED than DEFEATED.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NotaBene, 1/11/2019 11:34:00 AM     (No. 11889684)

McConnell, Thune, Barrasso, Romney, Murkowski, Lee, Alexander, Burr, Tim Scott and company have done nothing, nothing to help Our President Donald Trump. He single handedly gave them the majority and not even one speech of support for Trump from the floor of the senate. Democrats use the floor all the time in defense of Cultural Marxism, but Republicans cannot accept that Trump is their leader for they are in the pocket of the Chamber oh Commerce and Globalism. MAGA.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: saguni, 1/11/2019 12:45:52 PM     (No. 11889751)

I´d like to see Trump say, I won´t sign this bill until I have funding for Border Security, including the wall where it is deemed necessary.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2019 12:46:56 PM     (No. 11889754)

This bill simply removes the last argument that the democrats had for blaming Donald Trump for their shutdown. Nancy was attempting to get the country to cry for all of those poor government workers who had rent to pay, college loans to pay back or feed their children. Now the democrats own it totally and nobody is suffering.

Paying government workers for doing nothing is not just a phenomenon of this shutdown, we do it all the time. Tracking the users of online pornography sites would bust several hundred thousand of them. Look behind any government facility and your odds of observing a group of them outside smoking are a good bet.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: WalkingLadyLiberty, 1/11/2019 1:54:31 PM     (No. 11889808)

Only those required to work without pay should receive back pay...like the Coastguard. Only when it hurts will it make a difference. This is truly a paid vacation for those not working.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Penney, 1/11/2019 2:45:48 PM     (No. 11889844)

The media never mentions the amount of salary which these Federal employees receive, nor do they question why some of these employees choose to live, ´´paycheck to paycheck.´´ Money management should again be taught by parents and in the school system. ...After all, every American child used to learn wise lessons from children´s books, movies and cartoons, including the one that even squirrels know to store away nuts for the winter.

Sorry, not much sympathy for those who receive sizeable salaries, which will be reimbursed, yet do not plan ahead financially for the inevitable, ´rainy day,´ which everyone experiences at one time or another.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dman, 1/11/2019 3:57:53 PM     (No. 11889924)

While I agree with #6 et al, this is probably the best (or least bad) "at this juncture" (as Dana Carvey/Bush 41 would say).

Most banks and credit unions are offering interest-free or low-cost loans to tide these workers over until things are settled, so any Dem / media whining is irrelevant.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: strike3, 1/11/2019 4:56:28 PM     (No. 11889976)

The number of federal government workers making below six figures is small indeed. It goes back to the time some wizard declared that if we paid them more we would get better quality workers. That worked out very well.

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For the last 35 years, the snowpack in the West’s mountains has resisted the impacts of global warming. But that could soon change, according to a new study out of Oregon State University. The study, published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, found that although climate change should have caused a steep decrease in snowpack, naturally occurring, decades-long weather variations shielded the Cascades, Sierras and Rockies from some of the effects. Although snow stations have recorded some decline, it hasn’t been statistically significant. But according to the study, without this natural weather variation, snowpack in Oregon could have declined

Mueller Draft Report Says Trump
´Helped Putin Destabilize the United
States,´ Watergate Journalist Says

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Newsweek, by Jason Lemon    Original Article
Posted By: toledo- 1/14/2019 7:20:52 AM     Post Reply
Legendary journalist Carl Bernstein has said that he’s been told that special counsel Robert Mueller’s report will show how President Donald Trump helped Russia “destabilize the United States.” Bernstein, who is renowned for his coverage of the Watergate scandal that led to the resignation of former President Richard Nixon, appeared on CNN’s Reliable Sources on Sunday to discuss two bombshell reports released this weekend, one from The New York Times and one from The Washington Post, which revealed new details about whether or not Trump and his aides have colluded with Russia.

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