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California mandates solar panels
for homes built in 2020 and later

Fox News, by Bradford Betz

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/6/2018 9:29:25 AM

California lawmakers on Wednesday officially approved a measure that mandates all homes built in the Golden State in 2020 and beyond be solar-powered. The new standards were approved earlier this year and voted on unanimously by the California Building Standards Commission, the Orange County Register reported. Officials heralded the move as a “historical undertaking” that “will be a beacon of light for the rest of the country.” The provisions add an estimated $10,000 to the cost of building a single-family home – including more than $8,400 for installing solar and roughly $1,500 for energy efficiency. Proponents of these requirements, however

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Reply 1 - Posted by: qwerty, 12/6/2018 9:37:50 AM     (No. 11854528)

Pass the pop corn. This "FEEL GOOD" garbage is nothing more than a money grab from contractors. Can you see house sales nose dive?
Only the emaciated vegan tree huggers will be the buyers.
SAVE YOURSELF ... DON´T MOVE to the LEFT SIDE.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: plex, 12/6/2018 9:44:26 AM     (No. 11854536)

Will increase the value of older homes without solar.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 12/6/2018 9:52:01 AM     (No. 11854545)

This will add to the costs of already overpriced real estate and continue to drive people out of the state.

As long as the federal government doesn´t bail out California for their insane ideas and the cost of them, they can dig themselves deeper into the pit as they wish.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/6/2018 9:54:48 AM     (No. 11854549)

#2 No problem. The older homes will be required to "upgrade" with solar before owner is allowed to sell. Count on it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Axeman, 12/6/2018 9:56:18 AM     (No. 11854551)

Good. This will require cutting down every tall tree within shading distance. Thereby reducing the fire danger.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: pchristopher, 12/6/2018 9:58:36 AM     (No. 11854555)

Let´s see what happens when "teenagers" start going through neighborhoods and throw rocks and bullets at them.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Muguy, 12/6/2018 10:04:14 AM     (No. 11854561)

There must be some sort of concerted effort being made on this, because just yesterday I heard about some wacko group trying to get something like that introduced into the upcoming session of the Texas Legislature.

They have an agenda and they are going to ram it through and keep working until people relent or the get some weak legislator to wimp out due to bad media press attacking them.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hotrod, 12/6/2018 10:04:37 AM     (No. 11854562)

Like it´s not expensive enough to build a house in California now! I wonder if the insurance companies will pay for this when the houses that recently burned up in the fires are rebuilt? They better hurry up and build before 2020- if they can get through all the permitting process in the next year! One thing for sure, insurance rates will go up, regardless.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ribald1, 12/6/2018 10:14:13 AM     (No. 11854573)

Elon Musk´s solar company, along with his car company and his rocket company are facing a very real threat of Trump cutting off access to your wallet.
The Chinese, who make most of the solar panels, are likewise facing losing a place at the trough.
So look for this kind of thing happening all over the country.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Highlander, 12/6/2018 10:15:10 AM     (No. 11854575)

Well, my home value just tanked! Who’s going to buy a house in California, knowing this law is going to affect every homeowner in the state?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 12/6/2018 10:20:50 AM     (No. 11854582)

Stand by for the unintended consequences.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: skacmar, 12/6/2018 10:23:53 AM     (No. 11854589)

California is the real life version of Atlas Shrugged. They keep making so many regulations "for the good of the people" that they are destroying any incentive to build, relocate, or open or operate a business there. The only reason to live there is if you want to live in a nanny state where all of your decisions are made for you by the government.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Words have Meaning, 12/6/2018 10:30:06 AM     (No. 11854597)

A message to all residents of CA...Just because your state is in the toilet and quickly going down the drain, do not think for one second you can just move out of state and spread your poison to neighboring states.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/6/2018 10:32:22 AM     (No. 11854600)

Years ago (in the 1970s) a very large multi-state development company that I worked for, that build entire communities of many hundreds of homes, discarded the idea of installing solar because it was ineffective. For many reasons it could not support a home’s entire power needs. The best it could do would be to act as backup. To heat a swimming pool. Not much else.

Another screwball Jerry Brown idea.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/6/2018 10:33:12 AM     (No. 11854602)

Re #14, that company built its huge developments in California, Arizona and Texas.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/6/2018 10:33:41 AM     (No. 11854605)

No matter which state you live in, I wouldn´t by buying anything solar at this time. See what happens in California. The price of solar should drastically come down. So it won´t hurt to wait it out for a few years.
The demise of this law will be the people won´t maintain their systems. They´re only good for 20 to 30 years anyway so what happens then.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Starboard_side, 12/6/2018 10:34:35 AM     (No. 11854607)

Of course they could have mandated that every government building, school, university, hospital, warehouse building, and mall parking lots could have been pushed to install solar panels instead, and they would cover FAR more acreage than a bunch of homes, particularly new built homes.

It would reduce the carbon footprint, lower the energy use(costs) for every gov´t department, which would also mean they would needn´t need as much $$ in future budgets.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/6/2018 10:35:43 AM     (No. 11854609)

I would say there goes the housing industry, but California has likely already destroyed it with sky high prices. No wonder people are leaving the state. Nothing will be fixed either. The corrupt left has a chokehold on California at the federal level, and the state level. It will get worse.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: seamusm, 12/6/2018 10:36:39 AM     (No. 11854611)

Oh PLEASE Dear Lord! Don´t let Californians move to Texas and spread their voting habits.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Clinger, 12/6/2018 10:39:48 AM     (No. 11854613)

That pesky middle class refused to completely disappear, they had to do something. This should finish them off so they can enjoy the land of filthy rich elites and droves of poor unwashed masses. Way to go Cali can´t wait for Illinois to catch up.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: peebster, 12/6/2018 10:42:39 AM     (No. 11854615)

$10K per home? Yeah, right. And the bullet train will only cost $3B. If its mandated, the cost will easily go to $50K or higher. We reduced our San Jose water use by half, killed most of our yard and what happened? They doubled our water rates. We now live in Michigan and love it. Escaped just in time apparently...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 12/6/2018 10:42:46 AM     (No. 11854616)

And these Einsteins will be surprised that the higher costs of housing in the state will further aggravate the lack of "affordable" housing. Of course their solution will be to mandate that the builders lower their prices for a certain portion of the population, forcing them the raise their prices on everyone else to offset the lost revenue.

It´s the leftist way.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/6/2018 10:45:22 AM     (No. 11854622)

Fantastic! Californians will be swarming into Nevada buying homes- My home here is already worth nearly a half million. The only downside is- They are Californians!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: coldoc, 12/6/2018 10:49:27 AM     (No. 11854626)

Here in AZ, an initiative to californicate the state mandating "renewable" energy sources failed 70-30%. Like almost having the hairball hag for president, we dodged a bullet.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: M2, 12/6/2018 11:08:43 AM     (No. 11854663)

CA, please secede so the rest of us can live in peace.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 12/6/2018 11:11:13 AM     (No. 11854668)

Hopefully the future housing shortage will keep some of the liberals from moving in from back east and distroying a once great state.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: scottj, 12/6/2018 11:15:03 AM     (No. 11854672)

Beacon of light for the rest of the country? I think we heard the same thing about that high speed train. Thats some beacon.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mc squared, 12/6/2018 11:59:22 AM     (No. 11854720)

Assuming it worked and a percentage of homes go off the grid. Do you think power companies aren´t going to distribute their costs over the remaining customers?

Most solar homes are never fully off the grid: they retain commercial power for emergencies, panel failures, and long gray weather conditions (wildfires?).
Power plants can´t be shut down and started ´at will´. They will run all the time, anyway.




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Reply 29 - Posted by: dynomitethings, 12/6/2018 12:21:19 PM     (No. 11854741)

Absolutely ridiculous. Solyndra, anyone?

I´ve been to California, from San Diego to San Francisco and while it is a very pretty state, I don´t see the appeal of living there. With stunts like this, the outrageous taxation as well as high housing costs, etc. I don´t understand why anyone would want to live there.

It´s worse than Europe in some aspects(!) and I´ve lived in Europe, as a citizen, for many years...so I know.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/6/2018 12:25:04 PM     (No. 11854743)

Don’t forget it costs a lot of money per year to clean these panels because the more dust and dirt that accumulates on them the less efficient they are. These panels will add additional costs to construction for structural engineering the new loads on the roof framing, walls and foundations as well as additional costs for all of the supporting structures. Next we will see the all wise and knowing state mandate guacamole be served at every meal. Thus giving the avocado farmers in Mexico a real boost in sales.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: dvc, 12/6/2018 12:40:36 PM     (No. 11854762)

Another nail in the coffin of California.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: jacksin5, 12/6/2018 12:57:31 PM     (No. 11854794)

Like Electric cars, the main drawback is storage capacity of the energy created.

And like others have already stated, an installation cost of 10K is a pipedream.

The only person who will be happy with this is Elon Musk, darling of the Leftist Dreamers.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 12/6/2018 1:02:06 PM     (No. 11854797)

California is not the only state infected by communists, nor are we the epicenter sending voter-agents across the country to spread the virus. Every state, whether blue, red, or purple, already have the pathogens in their systems.

California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts and so many others are the laboratories where new strategies and tactics are tried, and then farmed out to the purple and red states. If the Republicans were truly anti-communists, we could have a fighting chance but that is just not reality. It is the legislatures and governors that pass these oppressive laws, not the voters of a state. The Dims picked up control of more legislatures and governor offices this mid-term.

California is my birthright and I’m staying. Why move when there is no “safe” state that will not be taken over slowly and stealthily in the same way that tarnished the Golden State. Each of us has to fight for our state, for our country, and right now for our President. Donald Trump is our only hope to save our Constitution.

Moving out of socialist states is not the answer, it’s just moving pieces around on the game board. Did we all abandon America when Obola was in charge? Stay, fight, win.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: rubberneck, 12/6/2018 1:20:36 PM     (No. 11854820)

If you live in Palm Springs, sunshine probably hits your rooftop 320 days a year.

If you live in Eureka, 40+ inches of rain hits your rooftop every year - 10 times as much as in Palm Springs. (23+ inches falls on Nancy´s house in San Francisco every year.)

If there´s any one state that´s an unlikely candidate for mandatory solar panels across-the-state, it would be California.

(But that´s just the common sense in me... and what do I know, compared with the California Building Standards Commission?)

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Reply 35 - Posted by: judy, 12/6/2018 1:21:17 PM     (No. 11854821)

With 75% of Californians on welfare I don´t think they have to worry about solar panels on new homes.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: schnapps, 12/6/2018 3:23:42 PM     (No. 11854908)

Other CA beacons of light:

- High speed train. Budget $30 billion - looking more like $200 billion. Can´t find any tracks yet.

- Embryonic Stem Cell research. Spent $6 - $9 billion to date. Only break-throughs have been in adult stem cell researchers outside CA.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: dvc, 12/6/2018 3:27:49 PM     (No. 11854911)

#7, understand that the business folks who will benefit greatly from ENFORCED PURCHASING of their (probably overpriced, since the buyer MUST BUY) solar systems will be very, very interested in all state legislatures pushing this kind of law.

Businesses LOVE customers being required to purchase their wares. And they will send money back to the legislators as bribes and campaign contributions in great numbers.

Look at ethanol. Bad idea, costs more, lowers gas mileage, harms all small engines that are not run with great regularity, yet can the 200 million people that hate it get it stopped? Of course not, the corn farmers and the ethanol distillers have the legislatures all bribed and paid up, can´t stop it.

Solar panels on homes will be the same if we let it get a foothold. Kill this in the beginning or have it forever.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: anonymous, 12/6/2018 3:31:28 PM     (No. 11854913)

Yet more Communist-style intrusion by those in the California government who are hell-bent on doing "good for the world". I can´t see the US Supreme Court allowing it.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/6/2018 5:35:37 PM     (No. 11854992)

Re #33, yes. And yes and yes…

Have you ever noticed we never hear where the California bashers live? What Utopia they have chosen to reside and spend their days in while stoning California, all of its residents, including the California LDotters.

Better not get a hurricane or a tornado. I won’t be able to find my violin.

This is not the friendly supportive LCom of old. Too sad.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: strike3, 12/6/2018 5:43:51 PM     (No. 11855000)

Too late, #13. The liberal virus has already spread from Commiefornia to Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Arizona and to a certain extent back east. If you meet new neighbors moving in and they say they are from California, sell your home quickly and move to the Midwest.

Residents may brag that California has a lot of industry and opportunities but you have to live in misery, crawl on freeways, pay outrageous taxes and suffer fools for politicians to take advantage of them. It may be worth it for some but not if you want to stay sane. Just look at Pelosi, Moonbeam, Feinstein, Maxine, Schiff and Harris, those wild buggy eyes and insane rhetoric say it all.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/6/2018 7:01:09 PM     (No. 11855058)

Re #35, link for that percentage on welfare, please.

The story I saw within the last day or so gave a percentage near that for illegal families, not all Californians.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: gone2pot, 12/6/2018 7:14:58 PM     (No. 11855064)

33, there are Venezuelans who feel the same way. Wait until Newsom and the CalMarxists give the entire world free health care, free income, free college and probably subsidized solar panels for their tent cities near Angel Stadium. I left in ´94 and hang a picture of the Welcome To California sign framed by my rear view mirror in the barndominium. However, I do pray for you and TK regularly.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/6/2018 9:09:03 PM     (No. 11855115)

Just in case there are any young people left in the state who could possibly afford to buy a home, Democrats are here to protect their property investments by adding more cost to get into the game.

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In recent days, many online essays have rightly ripped apart Gillette´s ugly new "We Believe" advertisement. One online critic dubbed it "feel-bad liberalism." (snip) "I guess the guy at the ad agency missed the lesson about not taking a dump on the people you want to buy your stuff," cracked comedian Steven Crowder. "The guy at the ad agency" is actually philosophically unpleasant feminist Kim Gehrig. Hiring her to court the male market is like expecting to accrue impressive rainbow flag sale numbers with spiels from Farrakhan.

Breaking: First Media Outlet to Report
on Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Cancer NOW
Says She Contracted Pneumonia–Is Fighting
for Her Life

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Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/17/2019 2:27:39 PM     Post Reply
In September The Santa Monica Observor reported that Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had developed cancer. Snopes labeled the report as fake news. Snopes was wrong. The Santa Monica Observer was the only paper to report of lung cancer at the time. Now The Santa Monica Observer says Ruth Bader Ginsburg has pneumonia and is fighting for her life. And… That Ginsburg will retire in January. The Santa Monica Observer reported: As any reader of the Santa Monica Observer knew last September, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has developed lung cancer. The 85 year old Supreme Court Justice had surgery as quietly

Man Who Says He Was Abducted By
Aliens Breaks 45-Year Silence

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WWJ-TV [Detroit, MI], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/16/2019 5:21:44 PM     Post Reply
PASCAGOULA, Miss.— A Mississippi man in declining health is telling a story he’s kept secret from his own family for 45 years: he claims he was abducted by aliens. Calvin Parker says he and his buddy Charles Hickson were fishing in 1973 on the banks of the Pascagoula River, just north of where Ingalls Shipyard now sits, when a “real bright beam appeared all over us and it kind of blinded me for a second and when I got my vision back, I seen three bulky looking creatures coming toward us.” Parker said the creatures were “probably 4, 4 1/2, 5 foot tall…built like football players. But I noticed they kind of moved mechanical wise

Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule
State of the Union address

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politico.com, by Heather Caygle    Original Article
Posted By: Nephilim- 1/16/2019 9:45:56 AM     Post Reply
Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday asked President Donald Trump to reschedule his State of the Union address — or deliver it in writing — as long as the government remains shut down. "Sadly, given the security concerns and unless government re-opens this week, I suggest that we work together to determine another suitable date after government has re-opened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union address in writing to the Congress on January 29th," Pelosi wrote in a letter to Trump.

What Happens if Ruth Bader
Ginsburg Remains Too Sick to Work?

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Politico, by Daniel Hemel    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 1/16/2019 4:33:52 PM     Post Reply
In the past two months, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has fractured three ribs and had two cancerous nodules removed from her left lung. She was absent from oral argument last week and will miss this week’s arguments as well. Doctors say they expect her to be back on the bench in February, and until then she will review transcripts from her home and participate in the court’s decision-making remotely. But her return to work has not quieted critics who say that Ginsburg should have retired long ago and that her health issues are the latest evidence that justices should not be

Pelosi Slams DHS Claim Of Being
Prepped For SOTU: ‘I Don’t Care
What They Said’

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Daily Caller, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/17/2019 5:52:18 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON—House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Wednesday night she “doesn’t care” if the Secret Service said it was prepared to appropriately secure the State of the Union address despite the partial government shutdown. Instead, she stood firm in her resolve to delay the January 29 event until the government completely re-opens. (Photo) In a letter to President Trump, Pelosi claimed the lack of funds to Homeland Security posed a risk to the White House and the Congress during the event, but the Department of Homeland Security Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen released a statement refuting that. She shared that statement in a

Breaking: Pelosi asks Trump to postpone
SOTU until gov’t reopens; Update: Dems
planned move for “months”?

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Hot Air, by Ed Morrissey    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/16/2019 11:14:07 AM     Post Reply
It’s tough to tell. Does this make the shutdown a bug … or a feature? Nancy Pelosi has asked Donald Trump to put off his State of the Union speech to the joint session of Congress until after the funding issues have been resolved: (Copy of Letter/Tweet) And with that, the new Speaker of the House just made the best case possible for a perpetual shutdown. Kidding! What I meant to say was that Nancy Pelosi has finally sounded a note of wisdom, at least in her reminder that presidents used to just deliver a report in writing to Congress.

Video: Stranded Bus with Pelosi and
Democrat Lawmakers Drives Circles
Around US Capitol

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Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/17/2019 7:56:27 PM     Post Reply
On Thursday afternoon, President Trump informed Speaker Pelosi her “public relations” trip to Afghanistan, Egypt, and Brussels has been postponed so that she can stay in DC and negotiate with him. The President canceled Pelosi’s flight just one hour before she was scheduled to depart — Pelosi and other lawmakers were on the bus en route to the airport. Trump told her to fly commercial on her own dime. According to Fox News reporter, Chad Pergram, furious phone calls are flying back and forth from The Hill to the State to the Pentagon and White House. (Photo) The Bus Is

ESPN Host Suggests Trump Was Racist
for Serving Clemson Players Fast Food

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Washington Free Beacon, by David Rutz    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 1/17/2019 11:09:39 AM     Post Reply
An ESPN host suggested Wednesday it was racist for President Donald Trump to serve fast food to the Clemson football team at the White House, saying such food being given to players of a "predominately black sport" gave her pause. (Snip)While the players appeared to enjoy the food, some political and sports observers took Trump to task for what they considered a low-class gesture. On the daily ESPN debate show "First Take," panelists Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman discussed the matter, with Smith saying it was a "classless" and "disgraceful" move by Trump.

Barack Obama wishes Michelle a happy
birthday: ´You’re one of a kind´

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The Hill, by Avery Anapol    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 1/17/2019 2:43:47 PM     Post Reply
Former President Barack Obama wished his wife, former first lady Michelle Obama, a happy birthday on Thursday. Posting a throwback photo of the two as a young couple, the former president wrote on Instagram: “I knew it way back then and I’m absolutely convinced of it today — you’re one of a kind.” (Photo) Michelle Obama, who turned 55 on Thursday, also received online birthday wishes from former presidential adviser Valerie Jarrett, who called her “an extraordinary role model for us all.” (Tweet)

Domino´s Pizza legally required to make app
and website accessible for blind people

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New York Daily News, by Jessica Schladebeck    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 1/16/2019 4:27:48 PM     Post Reply
Domnio’s Pizza has been legally required to makes its app and website fully accessible to the visually impaired following a years-long legal battle with a blind customer who was left unable to order a pie with personalized toppings through his iPhone. Guillermo Robles in a lawsuit filed back in September 2016 first accused the popular pizza chain of violating the Americans with Disabilities Act “for its failure to design, construct, maintain, and operate its website to be fully accessible and independently usable” for those who are blind. The Americans with Disabilities Act, made law in 1990, says it is unlawful


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