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John Dingell´s plan for America?
Let´s abolish the U.S. Senate

USA Today, by Todd Spangler

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/4/2018 1:49:06 PM

WASHINGTON — Former Rep. John Dingell, who served in Congress longer than anybody ever, has a plan for improving politics immediately: abolish the U.S. Senate. Writing in a new biography, "The Dean: The Best Seat in the House," Dingell, 92, makes a case for changing the Constitution to get rid of the upper chamber, criticizing the 18th Century idea that the smallest states have the same number of senators as California. While it may have made sense in the late 1700s that "Rhode Island needed two U.S. senators to protect itself from being bullied by Massachusetts" at a

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Scratch a liberal and you´ll find a totalitarian underneath.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/4/2018 1:59:27 PM     (No. 11852571)

We need to return to the days when the Senate was voted on by the States. Let´s do what the founders wanted us to do.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jalo1951, 12/4/2018 2:00:26 PM     (No. 11852572)

Yeah you´d like that wouldn´t you? But of course you have no problem with CA and NY having a bazillion representatives because so many losers and tax money sucking leeches move there. Frankly I think the Founding Fathers were brilliant.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jenkinshill, 12/4/2018 2:02:42 PM     (No. 11852575)

The purpose of the Senate (and the Electoral College, and the Bill of Rights) is to block people like John Dingell from imposing their will/views on the rest of us.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 12/4/2018 2:06:18 PM     (No. 11852578)

Just another leftist attempt to take over the country. The easy thing to do to help fix Congress is TERM LIMITS!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 12/4/2018 2:07:28 PM     (No. 11852579)

#3 nailed it.
Single-cameral tyranny-of-the-mob “democratic” parliments without checks/balances almost always end up in totalitarianism, usually from the extreme left or, like Iran, from Islamist theocracy (mixed with Leftism).

So ... no.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: another_clinton, 12/4/2018 2:46:49 PM     (No. 11852611)

He uses the term representative democracy. This is what all democrats think. We are not a democracy, we are a republic, a collection of states, where no one state can dictate their whims to the rest of the populace.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sore Eye Assets, 12/4/2018 2:50:20 PM     (No. 11852612)

The House proposes and the Senate disposes and here´s one Dingbat that needs to be flushed down the toilet immediately before he stinks up the place.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: George R., 12/4/2018 2:55:00 PM     (No. 11852616)

What else can one expect from the namesake of the Dingleberry?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Penney, 12/4/2018 3:01:49 PM     (No. 11852620)

Here´s a better idea for the always conniving lefty pols, like this old-timer, John Dingell(D). Let´s just keep the U.S. Constitution with its foundational ethical principles for freedom and its brilliant representative, three clearly defined Branches of Government with checks and balances for each of the three, and thus return to implementing its ethical principles and accountability, with American citizens voting individually, with informed reasoning and their honest votes for honest candidates. ´Block,´ or group voting & intimidation pressures should be shunned as they result in each individual voter shirking their citizen´s duty to this country.

How about returning to that noble structure which has already proved to result so amazingly well for securing Life, Liberty and Justice for ALL in America the Beautiful, making it the beacon of Liberty, prosperity, strength and benevolence on this planet!

...However, There seems to be a destructive lump of coal in the mix right now as the drugged out, militant socialist 60´s-70´s activists are tenured & entrenched in academia as well as Government and they have apparently never stopped conniving & plotting strife & worse. Now the dem party itself even seems to have been transformed into the socialist party, along with the usual corruption & crooks that accompany socialism, spoiling that party´s ranks and who are exposed publicly & prosecuted quite often these days. They have no shame and still get elected. ´Tis a conundrum. The Clinton´s & 0bamas are their idols.
mmm mmm mmm

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Clinger, 12/4/2018 3:15:33 PM     (No. 11852630)

Isn´t that special. There´s a reason our founders feared a democracy, tyranny of the majority. And now that a majority are net beneficiaries of wealth redistribution where do you think democracy will lead?

Didn´t see that coming did ya Dingy.

As a foot note:

As much as over 50% of us are net takers from our neighbors and in a short sighted view the takers would be better off with more taking, in reality they would be far better off in a constitutional republic that protected their neighbors from having their resources stolen. We´d all make more in the absence of theft, we should try it some time.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Krause, 12/4/2018 3:26:57 PM     (No. 11852639)

He’s obviously OK with people making a career, and hogging, an elected seat in government, when the intent we’d have a steady stream of different citizens serving short periods in Congress.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: weirdone, 12/4/2018 3:35:46 PM     (No. 11852646)

Why would I be in favor of the crazies on both costs running my life? Libs are insane; we need to reopen the asylums they closed so we will have some place to put them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/4/2018 3:44:09 PM     (No. 11852656)

Notice that you have to get 3 paragraphs in before the author mentions that Dingell is a demonrat. While the first sentence will make a lot of people think that he’s a Republican. Spangler could easily have started the article with the words, “Former Representative John Dingell....”

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JediJerry, 12/4/2018 3:47:46 PM     (No. 11852662)

John Dumbell is a total complete drooling buffoon.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/4/2018 3:47:57 PM     (No. 11852663)

In the current political climate, I do not want a democrat even within 100 miles of any constitutional convention, and that goes for about 90% of the GOPe as well. I would rather see the abolishing of the CBC to be honest. The CBC is a hotbed of corruption and should go away. Stop segregation of our congress.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: dvc, 12/4/2018 3:49:31 PM     (No. 11852666)

Dingell is, as usual, entirely wrong on this issue. Regardless of the issues of the Senate, it is a necessary brake on the wild popular swings in the House, as intended by the founding fathers.

#1, yes, but in the original US Constitution, is says:
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof ....

There was no indication whatsoever to limit the method that the state legislature used to choose their two Senators. In 1866, a federal law was passed to provide methods for the legislatures to elect Senators.

With modest research, it is not clear to me that there was any real problem with the old methods, although there were some periods where legislatures were deadlocked and ultimately preferred no Senator to a compromise candidate. Amazing, but true.

In any case, research shows that these problems seemed to decrease a lot after 1900, for unclear reasons, and yet, the 17th Amendment was passed.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/4/2018 3:52:25 PM     (No. 11852672)

He just wants to change the country into a permanent one party socialist Democrat country where a few liberal Democrat states always determine the outcome of future presidential elections, that is until the money runs out.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: snapper451, 12/4/2018 4:11:28 PM     (No. 11852697)

Dingell, whose wife took his place in Congress, because he is entitled. Why in the world would anyone listen to him? This goofball terrorized the pharma industry for years, despite collecting large donations all the time. Hypocrite, as worthless as they come.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: anniebc, 12/4/2018 4:21:26 PM     (No. 11852713)

We all should be doing this; but, shouldn´t he be contemplating the afterlife at his age? Instead, he´s still trying to destroy America with one foot in the grave. No old fool like a stupid one. Good grief! liberals are hellbent.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 12/4/2018 4:26:36 PM     (No. 11852717)

Good idea. Sounds like a step toward term limits. Let’s start first by imediately eliminating Dingle’s Senate pension and in 2020 expand it to the pensions of all legislators.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 12/4/2018 4:32:41 PM     (No. 11852719)

Dingell is the poster child for term limits.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Hazymac, 12/4/2018 4:45:59 PM     (No. 11852728)

When my college group visited the gallery above the U.S. House of Representatives (and the U.S. Senate, natch) in 1974, I kept seeing this fellow with what appeared to be a roaring case of hepatitis and jaundice, coming on and off the House floor. He was dressed like a congressman and even hobnobbed with members of Congress as though he were one. I looked down at my forearm. Tan. Then down at him. Yellowish. And he stayed in Congress for almost four decades more. It was Dingell we saw that day. Teddy Kennedy and Barry Goldwater on the other side were more recognizable.

This LDotter agrees with others who recognize that Dingell has no conception of what the Framers intended when they wrote, explained to the public (via the Federalist Papers), and promulgated the Constitution, the noblest and wisest political document ever written. Preserve the Constitution. And the Word. And all shall be well.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: montwoodcliff, 12/4/2018 4:59:43 PM     (No. 11852737)

A little history here--Senators were elected by state legislatures until around 1899 when the copper baron William A. Clark of Montana, bribed Montana legislators into voting him into the Senate. The Senate refused to seat him, but he was elected through a later campaign. The Constitution was changed to direct election to avoid stunts like Clark pulled. He was a Republican, by the way. But the losers keep trying to find ways to keep power. Dingell is an old fool who will go away soon anyway. Then this automatic registration is another thing. Ignorant people shouldn´t be allowed to vote. If you want to vote, make the effort to go and register, and it´s time to end this early voting nonsense as well. We vote on one day, and at the end of the day, the votes get counted and that´s final. This "harvesting" of votes is nothing more than the old stuffing the ballot of Tammany Hall and the Daley Machine.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: bobgray2, 12/4/2018 5:07:10 PM     (No. 11852745)

The thief wants to remove all the locks on the bank.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/4/2018 5:22:46 PM     (No. 11852763)

Who really knows, as it is entirely possible that the wimpy and incredibly stupid Republican Party may well go along?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: MainelySane, 12/4/2018 5:24:59 PM     (No. 11852764)

Let´s do the same thing with world government at the U.N. Let China and India rule the world. Great Idea!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: red1066, 12/4/2018 6:32:05 PM     (No. 11852814)

There was a method to their madness back in 1776. They´ve seen what happens when the majority rules.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Starboard_side, 12/4/2018 7:02:46 PM     (No. 11852828)

Notice how the Democrats are not satisfied with our Constitution?

Always complaining how it´s not fair, or some other thing, and why they work hard to pack the Federal Courts with liberal-minded judges to enact laws they desire, and overturn decisions they don´t like?

They don´t seem to happy with law and order either, or deadlines for that matter.

Could this be the pathway to counter the Democrats going forward? To question why they don´t like the current laws, many of which they passed, and the rules as outlined in the Constitution?




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Reply 29 - Posted by: wsdiego, 12/4/2018 8:18:04 PM     (No. 11852876)

They do need protection!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/4/2018 10:04:43 PM     (No. 11852952)

Better to abolish the 17th Amendment and revert to the original intent of Article 1 Section 3 of the Constitution. The Senate has been out of control since 1913. The do not represent the state´s at the federal level any longer and pretty much answer to nobody. The electorate in their respective state´s generally rubber stamp the incumbent every 6 years because that is the name they recognize. Sad way to run a country.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Tet Vet 68, 12/4/2018 11:44:09 PM     (No. 11853025)

#30 gets it. Get rid of voting for the Senators and let the Governors appoint them as it was originally done before the 17th Amendment. Who holds the Governorships are then empowered once again to appoint Senators. The upper body then is not unlike the House of Lords in the UK. Our founders in writing the Constitution certainly had this in mind when establishing the Senate.


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Chick-fil-A is on fire. The fast-growing chicken-sandwich franchise is poised to become the third-largest fast-food chain in the country next year by sales, replacing Subway, according to Kalinowski Equity Research. Chick-fil-A would leapfrog past Taco Bell, Burger King and Wendy’s, the No. 4, 5 and 6 chains respectively, according to the firm. The privately held company “has rocketed this year,” Mark Kalinowski said. Last year, Chick-fil-A’s stores grew by nearly eight percent, to more than 2,100. Chick-fil-A’s sales are expected to grow as much as 15 percent to

Couple´s same-sex barbie gift for niece
inspires huge toy company Mattel

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Independent [UK], by Chelsea Ritschel    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 12/18/2018 12:10:25 PM     Post Reply
A couple looking for the perfect gift for their eight-year-old niece have captured the attention of toy company Mattel - after they created their own same-sex Barbie set. To celebrate their niece’s birthday, uncles Matt Jacobi and Nick Caprio from Scottsdale, Arizona were looking for a doll gift for eight-year-old Natalie that could tie-in to the theme of the couple’s upcoming May wedding - where Natalie and her sister will be flower girls. (Snip) So the uncles decided to add their own unique touch to the gift - by creating a “Gay Wedding Set.”

Joe Lieberman, former ´conscience of
the Senate,´ becomes a Chinese agent

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Washington Examiner, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 12/17/2018 5:31:40 AM     Post Reply
Joe Lieberman, a Democrat-turned-independent who has backed Republicans, has found friends in yet another party: the ruling Communist Party of the People´s Republic of China. The former "conscience of the Senate" has been hired to represent China´s ZTE telecommunications company, which is basically a front organization for Chinese intelligence services. ZTE is under pressure in light of overdue U.S. government efforts to prevent it from entrenching a stronger position in the U.S. economy. With the U.S. now in a new cold war with Beijing, no former U.S. official, let alone a foreign policy hawk like Lieberman, should be serving ZTE.

Woman claims she was Woody
Allen’s secret teen lover

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New York Post, by Yaron Steinbuch    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 12/17/2018 1:11:57 PM     Post Reply
An actress and model claims she had a clandestine eight-year affair with Woody Allen that began when she was 16 years old and underage – and included threesomes with the director and Mia Farrow in his penthouse, according to a new report. Babi Christina Engelhardt, now 59, told The Hollywood Reporter that she first caught the then-41-year-old Allen’s attention in October 1976 at famed eatery Elaine’s on the Upper East Side, where she dropped a note with her phone number. “Since you’ve signed enough autographs, here’s mine!” the star-struck girl scribbled. Allen soon invited Engelhardt

Muslim Amazon employees demand
more PAID time to pray

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BizPac Review, by Vivek Saxena    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 12/18/2018 10:37:19 AM     Post Reply
A group of Muslims who work for Amazon would rather pray than work, and because the multinational tech giant refuses to grant them this entitlement, the Muslims are now fighting back. How? By protesting and airing their grievances to sympathetic ears in the left-wing media. On Dec. 14 the group of Minneapolis-based East African Muslims held a protest outside the Amazon warehouse where they work to demand longer break times. Watch: At the moment the Muslim warehouse workers receive two 15 minute breaks and one 30 minute break per shift. According to Somali immigrant Khadra Ibrahin, these breaks are too


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