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‘Like He Was Tearing Down the Walls’:
Neighbor Says He Once Called 911
on Thousand Oaks Shooting Suspect

KTLA-TV [Los Angeles], by Marissa Wenzke and Eric Spillman

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Posted By:earlybird, 11/8/2018 12:37:07 PM

Hours after authorities responded to reports of gunfire at a Thousand Oaks bar, 13 people have been declared dead as new details are emerging about the suspect Thursday morning — including what one neighbor described as unexplainable "beating" sounds at the alleged gunman´s home. Since shots broke out at the bar late Wednesday night, sheriff´s officials have identified the suspected gunman as 28-year-old Ian David Long. (Snip)Meanwhile, neighbors spoke with reporters outside the residence — one of them describing a man who lived with his mother and began serving in the military right after high school.

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A neighbor talked to the media while law enforcement searched the house where he lived with his mother. Described Long as “seeming to struggle” since his return from Afghanistan.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/8/2018 12:47:26 PM     (No. 11824637)

Here is Ian David Long’s photo in uniform:

https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/iand.jpg?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Kurto, 11/8/2018 12:50:31 PM     (No. 11824646)

Gee, maybe the media isn´t telling us the whole story? No!

"He had a black mask -- what looked like a bandana on the bottom of his
face -- sunglasses, black hoodie, dark jeans," she said. "And he´s kind
of bigger. But kind of more burly. Scary."

https://ktla.com/2018/11/08/borderline-bar-gunman-came-out-of-nowhere-and-started-shooting-survivors-say/

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Reply 3 - Posted by: greggojo, 11/8/2018 1:06:43 PM     (No. 11824670)

If we could get rid of the massive fraud in food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, if we refused to give long term welfare to able bodied adults who will not work, if we could end generational welfare, if we could get rid of fraud in Medicare, if we could end illegal immigration...Anyway, all of the former total hundreds of billions of dollars a year in ill spent taxpayers´ money..If we weren´t spending all of it, we could afford proper (inpatient!) psychiatric care for those American citizens who need it, such as the man who killed 12 people last night in Thousand Oaks, Ca.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: KatieJo, 11/8/2018 1:07:06 PM     (No. 11824671)

Another case of PTSD treated with psychiatric medication. Almost every case where someone flips out and commits such acts can be laid at the feet of the drug companies and doctors that peddle these meds. The FDA is to blame too, they allow the continued use of these dangerous medications.

I watched a documentary on YouTube called The Enemy Within about the dangerous drug cocktails given to our military and the horrible experiences of those who got off the meds and survived the ordeal without killing anyone else.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/8/2018 1:10:29 PM     (No. 11824680)

Do we know he was given psychiatric medication? Link?

When this neighbor heard the pounding on the walls and his “welfare check” 911 call brought law enforcement, who referred him for a psych evaluation, the evaluators found nothing.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 11/8/2018 2:00:15 PM     (No. 11824760)

Very sad and tragic all around.

The truth is, there are deeply mentally ill people who need supervision and ought to be institutionalized.

Years ago in our small town, a teenager was diagnosed with an intractable psychiatric disorder. The only way to control his violent impulses, MAINLY against his mother, was by medication. HE was supposed to go to the hospital every day for his meds.

Most patients don´t like how the meds "make them feel" and stop self-administering. This guy one day didn´t show up at the hospital.

The hospital called the mother with the urgent warning about her son. He had threatened to cut off her head. Too late. When the police arrived they found the horrific scene.

I think most of these patients are mostly dangerous to themselves, and end up on the streets, alcoholic or drug addicted; families can not manage these people who are so very difficult to live with. But the others... gosh... surely they show signs of violent urges.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: hisself, 11/8/2018 2:05:26 PM     (No. 11824763)


How could this happen in California? Their gun laws are very r3estrictive!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ribald1, 11/8/2018 2:25:32 PM     (No. 11824791)

I see the people on welfare have made it out of bed.
CA has more gun stores than we have McDonalds restaurants, or Starbucks.



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Reply 9 - Posted by: msjena, 11/8/2018 2:42:20 PM     (No. 11824809)

You would think that gun-unfriendly CA would have found a way to keep a nutcase from getting a gun.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/8/2018 4:18:51 PM     (No. 11824942)

PTSD can be caused by various traumatic experiences and can also manifest itself at different times in different ways. My late uncle’s experiences as a runner in WWI (carrying messages from trench to trench in some of the fiercest battles) heard his buddies’ screams as they lay wounded in one No Man’s Land (the area between their trenches and those of the enemy). In the morning they were all dead. When he came back he would not speak of any of his experiences for many decades, and then to only one brother. He did not drink. No drugs. Just broken from a young age.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967

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Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/8/2018 4:23:08 PM     (No. 11824947)

Editing error in anecdote about my uncle . His experiences caused him to come home with what was then called “shell shock”. The experience described occurred one night during a fierce enemy barrage which kept rescuers from retrieving his wounded buddies from No Man’s Land.

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