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Audio Contains Gruesome Details of Khashoggi
Killing, Turkish Official Says

New York Times, by David D. Kirkpatrick and Carlotta Gall

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Posted By:toledo, 10/18/2018 12:16:11 PM

ISTANBUL — Saudi agents were waiting when Jamal Khashoggi walked into their country’s consulate in Istanbul two weeks ago. Mr. Khashoggi was dead within minutes, beheaded, dismembered, his fingers severed, and within two hours the killers were gone, according to details from audio recordings described by a senior Turkish official on Wednesday.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/18/2018 12:20:00 PM     (No. 11801284)

Mr. Khashoggi was dead within minutes, beheaded, dismembered, his fingers severed, and within two hours the killers were gone, according to details from audio recordings described by a senior Turkish official on Wednesday.

Another anonymous source who heard an audio recording (no video?) and describes it?

We can wait. This is not proof of anything other than the desire of the Turks to keep this story alive so that it brings the desired results. President Trump is not buying. Neither am I.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: dvc, 10/18/2018 12:21:54 PM     (No. 11801286)

NYT "reporting" on what an anonymous "Turkish official" claims.

Two layers of BS right there.

This is an Iran-Turk operation against SA, they are very unhappy with SA being friends with USA, trying to drive a wedge.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/18/2018 12:22:49 PM     (No. 11801288)

Another big question: Why? Why do all of that and within minutes?

A well-known writer opined that Christine Ford’s story went too far, too many embellishments, and finally sunk of its own (uncorroborated) weight. Is this another such story? They Turks have to know that Americans are appalled by beheading and dismemberment. It would not have been enough to just have him kidnapped or killed.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/18/2018 12:29:36 PM     (No. 11801296)

Read the article. Turkish government leaks to Turkish government paper.

As the Saudis and the Americans tried to put the crisis behind them, the brutality described in the leaks served as a reminder of why Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance has triggered an international backlash more severe than countless mass killings or rights violations.

The brutality vividly described is intended to trigger an international backlash. You betcha.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 10/18/2018 12:30:37 PM     (No. 11801298)

Wait- trust Trump. that´s all we need to do.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: strike3, 10/18/2018 12:47:01 PM     (No. 11801324)

Thousands of gruesome killings by ISIS were equally as bad, or worse. At least he died quickly. Why all of the concern?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Jubilationtcornpone, 10/18/2018 12:52:33 PM     (No. 11801336)

I figure the Turkish government had the Saudi embassy bugged in every room. Now it seems the alleged torture conspiracists are being thinned out back in KSA.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/18/2018 12:52:54 PM     (No. 11801338)

Excuse additional post. It seems the audio purportedly came from Khashoggi’s own iWatch.

It remains unclear how Turkish officials managed to acquire the audio recording that was recorded by the allegedly slain writer. The evidence and the recording could have been obtained using intercepted communications or audio surveillance, the Times reported.

But it’s unlikely the Turkish government will acknowledge the techniques used out of fear of compromising intelligence sources or admitting that they may have violated international law.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/saudi-doctor-told-others-to-listen-to-music-during-writers-decapitation-report

Rush Limbaugh had a lot to say on this. Article posted earlier. Meanwhile, this is still flimsy. Lurid (deliberately) but flimsy.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: whamdbambam, 10/18/2018 12:55:22 PM     (No. 11801346)

Is there any reason, any reason at all, for believing something published by the NYTwits based on past experience with their "reporting?"

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 10/18/2018 12:57:10 PM     (No. 11801349)

I trust the Turks even less than the Saudis. How about you?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MindMadeUp, 10/18/2018 1:15:06 PM     (No. 11801370)

The "watch recording" is one straw too many. This smells. It´s an attempt to split the SA and USA, and they apparently had no hesitation to brutally murder a relatively innocent man to make their point.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: 67cj5, 10/18/2018 1:16:29 PM     (No. 11801374)

There would be blood, lots and lots of blood. More blood than can be quickly cleaned up if it could be cleaned up at all. Any hunter or farmer who cuts his own meat will tell you cleaning and dressing large animals is messy. That office would be covered in blood.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tnorling, 10/18/2018 1:24:20 PM     (No. 11801384)

What better way to stifle if not terminate any American/Saudi Arabian rapprochement? I smell a rat... and so does Trump.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: Penney, 10/18/2018 1:55:11 PM     (No. 11801415)

So far, the current leadership of Turkey has proved to be unbelievable because they are deceivers. At this point regarding anything coming from Turkey, it is best to, ´´Trust but verify.´´ Too many questions remain.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/18/2018 2:05:18 PM     (No. 11801426)

So Turkey does not respond to murders that they are listening in on? I think I need a lot more information on this.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: winmag, 10/18/2018 2:19:46 PM     (No. 11801442)

I wish the media made this big of a stink about the Americans killed in Benghazi. Oh that´s right, can´t make Stinky look bad.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: pinkpanther, 10/18/2018 2:28:00 PM     (No. 11801448)

Hundreds of babies are dismembered alive in the womb daily and yet not a peep out of the left about that.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: M2, 10/18/2018 2:43:23 PM     (No. 11801460)

There are no recordings. The New York Times has not heard any. No recordings have been offered to anyone. If Turkish officials claim there is an audio of Kashoggi‘s death, bring it forth. Until then, there is no recording.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/18/2018 2:52:14 PM     (No. 11801471)

The correct response to this is, "So, you say you have audio recordings of this. Let´s hear them? Until we hear them we have no reason to believe they exist, or that if they exist that they contain what you say that they contain."

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bighambone, 10/18/2018 3:19:19 PM     (No. 11801510)

The liberal media is again jumping the gun, as the international investigation is just starting and who knows what the result will be?

In their rush to blame President Trump the liberal media themselves don’t have a clue as to what really happened, or what action that Trump may take. They should cool it until the US Government gets the full story and Trump decides on his actual response.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Amereagle-redux, 10/18/2018 3:19:29 PM     (No. 11801512)

Trust Trump.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: LadyHen, 10/18/2018 3:58:12 PM     (No. 11801551)

As some wise poster said yesterday, "Not our circus, not our monkeys."

And as Rush commented, Benghazi anyone? That the NYT and WaPo had been this concerned about OUR OWN PEOPLE in Benghazi and in reporting on the ones here who let those brave me be captured, tortured, and murdered.

No one is good in this story, not even those reporting on it, and frankly it all just stinks to high Heaven.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/18/2018 4:41:39 PM     (No. 11801594)

The latest - one of the purported assassins was killed in a car accident on the way back to SA. Anonymous report with no detail as to where or when. And this report came from a Turkish source.

They’re trying too hard.



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Reply 24 - Posted by: snakeoil, 10/18/2018 4:48:53 PM     (No. 11801600)

I´d rather hear the audio of Hillary finding out she lost on election night 2016.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab, 10/18/2018 4:59:20 PM     (No. 11801607)

How do we even know Koshoggi is even actually dead? We have only the Turkish Government’s accusation of it don’t we?.

I wouldn’t put it past Koshoggi, the Muslim Brotherhood (of which Koshoggi is a member and operative of (and high school friend and co-conspirator of 0sama Bin ladin, by the way) and Erdogan to conspire to pull something like this to embarrass Prince Salman, the best moderating force against Wahabbism and other forms of radical islam that we have in many decades, and to drive a wedge between that moderating force and the US, and maybe even start a war over the most idiotic reasons.

And for those who haven´t been paying Attention, we have no friends in Turkey, and Erdogan is trying to become Caliph of Muzzielandistan, and sees the potentially moderating Saudis as a great impediment to his schemes.

And even if the Saudis did kill Koshoggi (cousin of and part-time salesman for the world’s most infamous arms dealer, by the way.) it is no loss to the civilized world.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dvc, 10/18/2018 6:13:29 PM     (No. 11801668)

Makes me think of Ballsey-Ford claims. Big splash, everyone gets all wound up and ....no facts, not one detail, just claims.

NYT says anonymous Turkish official says that .....

I am done believing ANY of this. I call BS on the whole thing.

We are being played by Turks and probably Iranians.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Penney, 10/18/2018 6:21:21 PM     (No. 11801671)

Audios prove nothing as listening t0 those old radio dramas prove. Sound effects can mimic anything.

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