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Referendum To Split California Into 3
States Gets On Ballot. Here´s What The
New Californias Would Look Like.

Daily Wire, by James Barrett

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Posted By:JoniTx, 6/13/2018 10:57:19 AM

A new proposal to break up California into three states received enough signatures on Tuesday to make it onto the November 6 ballot. Now all it takes is a majority of California voters supporting it to start dismantling the country´s most populous, wealthy and radical state. The Los Angeles Times provides some more details on what would be "the first division of an existing U.S. state since the creation of West Virginia in 1863": If a majority of voters who cast ballots agree, a long and contentious process would begin for three separate states to take the place of California,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Hotrod, 6/13/2018 11:03:58 AM     (No. 11662437)

The part that would still be ´´California´´ under this scheme should, instead, be called ´´North Tijuana.´´

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Reply 2 - Posted by: qwerty, 6/13/2018 11:10:05 AM     (No. 11662443)

Draw a line west of Fresno from north to south, cut it away from the rest and let it float out to sea. I live just east of Fresno and would like some beach front property.
We´d get rid of L.A. , holly weird , silicone valley , and most especially the home of the feces and needle strewn haven known as San Francisco.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney, 6/13/2018 11:14:01 AM     (No. 11662452)

This looks like a good proposal. I cannot see anything parts of rural Ca. have in common with the leftist part of the state. I do not live there. If I did, I would vote to jettison Sacramento.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lindamay, 6/13/2018 11:14:01 AM     (No. 11662453)

6 senators instead of 2. Think about it. What if they were all Dems?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dvc, 6/13/2018 11:16:31 AM     (No. 11662459)

I WANT A VETO!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bldrrepub, 6/13/2018 11:19:39 AM     (No. 11662462)

Exactly #4. This proposal comes from Silicon Valley. The more conservative parts of the state in the north gets diluted and overwhelmed by the Bay Area. Central Valley conservatives get diluted by the large number of Hispanics.

This scheme flips the US Senate for years.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pilot222, 6/13/2018 12:01:17 PM     (No. 11662517)

I don’t trust the west coast rats. This could flip the senate. I want Calimehico to secede. My wish would be for all the left coast to leave the protection of America. Go back to your homeland Mexico. Go to your corruption, your language,your phony history, and become the biggest drug infested ,sex trafficking region to rival Thailand. I would plant the new volunteer military to protect that border and shoot to kill every illegal who comes within 100 feet of the fence. I can dream can’t I ?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jimincalif, 6/13/2018 12:07:34 PM     (No. 11662525)

I´m not sure about this, especially from a federal perspective. It has some disruption value, but it does look like "California" and "Northern California" would likely be blue. "Southern California" might be red, at least for presidential and governor votes, not sure about Senate and down-ballot state offices.

I´m in the OC, which is part of "Southern California". From a strictly local perspective, I like the idea of splitting off from LA, SF and the greater bay area.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: greggojo, 6/13/2018 12:41:07 PM     (No. 11662553)

This is not a split designed to give power to non-Leftist voters. The entire coastal region should have been one of the sections. But the way this is being done will do nothing but hand at least 2, possibly 4 additional senators to the Democrats. And the people with sense will still be taxed to ruin and culturally dragged through the mud by the elitist Leftist political leaders in SF and LA. Also, if you are familiar with the 20th Century history of the Los Angeles region, it has gone from typical suburban American to sizable majority Hispanic. Once beautiful San Francisco has gone from bohemian/arts to a dirty dangerous place with homeless people almost everywhere.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: seesfarwoman, 6/13/2018 12:46:17 PM     (No. 11662565)

No to this plan unless San Francisco, Marin and Bay Area counties are part of the same State as Los Angeles County.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kono, 6/13/2018 12:54:35 PM     (No. 11662576)

"Silicone valley" is the part of L.A. where breast implants are rife. And if any place deserves to be called "Tijuana Norte" it´s San Diego County, more than the central coast.

I´d nitpick those, but generally agree with most of the other Ldotter comments.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 6/13/2018 1:10:57 PM     (No. 11662598)

What would it do to electoral votes, and Congressional seats? Not sure we can presume they would remain the same. Who would be in charge of setting this up? A bunch of lefties? It already looks like a bunch of lefties have had a hand in it. Considering it would have nationwide impact, there should be some level of federal approval.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Sandbar, 6/13/2018 1:14:06 PM     (No. 11662603)

What gives Calif. or any state the option of dividing and declaring themselves independent states? Oh by the way, we now have six votes in the senate too.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: seamusm, 6/13/2018 1:15:15 PM     (No. 11662606)

Subject to US Congress approval. Ain´t EVER gonna happen. Even blue states won´t want California influence in DC to triple.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/13/2018 1:17:30 PM     (No. 11662609)

Be careful what you wish for ...

Have never seen so much envy in one place...

If you are in Paradise why not be proud of it?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/13/2018 1:19:36 PM     (No. 11662612)

And leave California alone?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Davids918, 6/13/2018 1:28:25 PM     (No. 11662623)

If you see Democrats happy about this idea, and pushing for it, then you know it wouldn´t be good for GOP and future elections.

It would certainly put the idea of how gerrymandered the CA districts currently are done, into a whole new process.

The democrats likely wouldn´t have the space to draw as favorable districts by diluting the votes of others.

It would also remove 54 automatic electoral votes going to democrats. Each state should then allow winner in each district to be allocated accordingly, not winner-take-all.

The hard part will be how to allocate funds that pay benefits and pensions for state workers.

To jettison LA county from NoCal and SoCal would be a huge, as what would be called California is the most blue area of CA.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: NYbob, 6/13/2018 1:30:17 PM     (No. 11662628)

Meaningless. Can´t be done, won´t be done, at least as far as representation at the Federal level. I suppose the state could vote to divide the CA into Kingdoms and govern with Kings, Queens and Knights, but THEY can´t decide on their own to create new ´states.´ Otherwise why not create 100 new CA ´states.´ and rule the rest of us? This new media and poorly educated public under the age of 50 will believe anything.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: 49 Ford, 6/13/2018 2:00:10 PM     (No. 11662657)

#18 is right. This is a crackpot scheme which, thank heaven, will go nowhere.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: NessunDorma, 6/13/2018 2:02:06 PM     (No. 11662661)

The Bay Area would run roughshod over the rest of Northern California. It would be like the bulk of the that state, which is where I live, didn´t even exist. So, no, just no.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 6/13/2018 2:06:00 PM     (No. 11662664)

Meanwhile the streets of its cities are coated in poop and urine. California has more urgent problems.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 6/13/2018 2:24:45 PM     (No. 11662674)

• North Mexico

• West North Mexico

• Leftist Bubble Land

Yes - - that´s about right.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: chance_232, 6/13/2018 3:17:40 PM     (No. 11662700)

A better division plan:

From LA to Tiburon, 60 miles east to west is one state. The rest break into north and south. That way the Democrats get 2 senators and the GOP gets 4.

Or, keep north and south as one state giving the dems 2 and the GOP 2.



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Reply 24 - Posted by: Dipi, 6/13/2018 3:50:09 PM     (No. 11662710)

Nothing more than a paper drill.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: danvillebill, 6/13/2018 4:14:44 PM     (No. 11662721)

No.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dvc, 6/13/2018 4:29:13 PM     (No. 11662734)

Cali is paradise?....yeah, like Hotel California.
Pair o´ Dice, maybe.

Sorry, born there, left long ago, turned down some really fantastic job offers because I would have had to move back to the fascist, antigun, Mexican-overrun, tax happy, super jammed highways California. Rose colored glasses on some, filter out the disasters.

No way we will let them get six Senators, not happening.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: meidei, 6/13/2018 4:29:48 PM     (No. 11662735)

Remember - there are many military bases in CA
see here for their locations:
https://militarybases.com/california/
Not a good time to divide CA

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Reply 28 - Posted by: snakeoil, 6/13/2018 5:06:16 PM     (No. 11662764)

It´s been a while since I read the Constitution. But don´t states have to apply for admission to the Union? What´s to prevent Tennessee from splitting into 3 state: East Tenn, Middle Tenn, and West Tenn? In the past it was proposed that New York City become a separate state. Currently we have 50 states and 100 senators. That´s easy to remember. File it with DC´s proposal to become a state.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 6/13/2018 5:11:15 PM     (No. 11662768)

Bottom-line, all sorts of ramifications here....probably too many to enumerate.
We have 6 months to chew on this, but I´m fairly sure it would never pass anyway, let alone get congressional approval!
After all, what would SoCal do without our NoCal water?!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 6/13/2018 5:23:37 PM     (No. 11662776)

Let them split as their whims direct. But, the new entities become Territories, not States. Representation is observer status only. See how it all settles out after 20 years, then consider Statehood for one, two or all three. Congress can do all of this.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: FunOne, 6/13/2018 8:19:32 PM     (No. 11662898)

Lets face the reality of California. Mexico has taken it back. That is all.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ratslayer, 6/13/2018 8:29:45 PM     (No. 11662905)

There was no election in the creation of WV. Tyrant Lincoln took a Sharpie to the map of Va. Then put the WV. legislature in nearby Alexandria. .

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