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Behind Seattle’s Amazon Tax: Seething
Tensions, Livid Neighbors, and Rising Rents

Bloomberg News, by Karen Weise

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 5/16/2018 10:43:41 AM

It was, as the local public radio station said, the day “Seattle Nice” died. On May 2, the residents of Seattle were hit with a one-two punch. For months, the city council had been debating a new tax on large employers to raise $75 million for new affordable housing and services for the homeless, whose growing population had burst out of shelters and into tents around the city. (Snip) Homeowners shouted down the council members and each other—decrying how growth and homeless encampments were encroaching into neighborhoods. Some opposed the tax, shivering at the thought of risking jobs at the

Perhaps lunacy has reached its limits in Seattle.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Moritz55, 5/16/2018 11:11:06 AM     (No. 11633946)

One point the author made in passing is that a part of the problem is the "opioid crisis and. the state’s meager mental health resources." Seattle is not the only place in the state that is being affected by this "enlightened" state´s stingy support of mental resources. In one case, two counties shared a single tiny crisis response office, and then they closed it because one particular politician thought a local hospital could handle matters more efficiently and bullied others to go along. That hospital has failed miserably, and the two counties are paying a high price for it.&

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hotrod, 5/16/2018 11:11:58 AM     (No. 11633947)

Provide the tools, supervision and materials, and let the homeless build their own homes. Maybe they would take pride of ownership and not destroy their homes, like most welfare recipients do to their government-furnished homes. They would learn skills, enabling them to get jobs and not be parasites on taxpayers.

Either that or give them a section of land for their tent city.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jasonB, 5/16/2018 11:15:53 AM     (No. 11633951)

OP, You´d like to think so but, please look to Detroit and other shining examples. Those folks are so stuck in their ways, I have very little faith in things changing.

This aint a black, white, brown or yellow issue. It´s a mindset. Some have just swallowed whole the notion that more taxes and government will solve their problems. CONTRARY to ALL EVIDENCE.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jfodoch, 5/16/2018 11:21:39 AM     (No. 11633953)

And the insatiable jaws of "How to spend other peoples´ money" continue to grind.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: AltaD, 5/16/2018 11:29:49 AM     (No. 11633960)

FTA:"Normally, higher prices would induce more construction, but zoning laws prevent that," Glenn Kelman, CEO of Redfin Corp. wrote in a blog post on Tuesday.

His blog post was more informative than the Bloomberg article. I don´t agree with everything he wrote in that post but do agree that zoning regs are the big issue and it isn´t being addressed.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 5/16/2018 11:30:10 AM     (No. 11633961)

What you subsidize, you get more of. What you tax, you get less of. Thus, in the future fewer businesses will be supporting more homeless.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Smart11344, 5/16/2018 11:47:54 AM     (No. 11633975)

Plain and very simple. Socialism does not work. It never has. The Politicians are morons elected by morons. It´s down right scary. Seattle is becoming a s---hole city.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dvc, 5/16/2018 11:51:40 AM     (No. 11633978)

The homeless and random murders -
Two substantial problems in the USA today that are directly driven by the lack of enough, or in some cases, any, long term mental hospitals. There is a certain percentage of the population that are not mentally able to function in a free society. They will self medicate with alcohol and illegal, harmful drugs and a certain portion of them will get a knife or a gun and harm others.

The leftist idiots who closed down the previously existing state and local mental hospitals decades ago, did it (as usual) because they thought that they were smarter and "better" than previous generations. And, as usual, they were wrong - leftist are ALWAYS wrong.

Those millions need to be used to fund long term mental hospitals for the insane folks who can no longer be permitted to live under bridges and in camps along the margin of the cities.

Leftists are cruel fools. Bring back the "mental institutions". It will take money, but it is far more humane and better for society than not doing it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: big red navy cheif, 5/16/2018 12:30:07 PM     (No. 11634019)

Local builders were making affordable, low-cost housing back in 2014 and before. But in 2015, the same council passed a series of requirements that demanded the apartments be bigger, cutting in half the number of units that could be built per building, really. And of course, this increased the cost per unit to the renters.
Now, the council wants to pull the money to fix that from successful businesses under its jurisdiction.
In other words, let´s fund further incompetence, because you KNOW they won´t figure out how to best use the funds they gain from this tax.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: legalart, 5/16/2018 12:31:56 PM     (No. 11634024)

Let Amazon stop building and/or get out of Seattle altogether, followed by its buddy Starbucks. The overwhelming vote by the city government to implement the tax is mind-boggling. It will never work, and it has not worked in the past; but these liberals refuse to see it. I don´t live anywhere near Washington state, but after reading Amazon´s statement on the city´s finances, it looks like they have misused the taxpayers´ money without much accountability, and now want to milk them for more in order to patch a problem of their own making. Hey, you want socialism? You got socialism.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jalo1951, 5/16/2018 12:50:27 PM     (No. 11634057)

When California leaves the Union here´s hoping that Washington state goes with them.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 5/16/2018 12:50:39 PM     (No. 11634058)

I think it´s a good idea. It will make the street people flock to Seattle to take advantage of the great benefits and clear them off the streets of other cities. It will become "Bum Town USA" and plague the citizenry for their Liberalism, panhandling all over their business district and tonier neighborhoods, and ignite the exodus of large businesses, not that it will ever make them vote for conservative leadership.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: NYbob, 5/16/2018 1:01:49 PM     (No. 11634066)

TV educated voters want this and then are shocked when it becomes real. Wake up fools. You brought this on yourselves when you voted for these ´lawmakers.´ Enjoy the real world.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: nimby, 5/16/2018 1:12:04 PM     (No. 11634078)

What is wrong with people in Seattle? They might as well elect the bums off the street

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 5/16/2018 1:13:02 PM     (No. 11634081)

I live in Shoreline, immediately north of Seattle, our southern border is their northern border. I grew up in the Ballard area, graduated from Ballard High School. Ballard does not need to be ´gentrified´. It WAS solidly middle-class with homes built early in the 20th century. Now those homes are being torn down and being replaced by huge 10-12 or more story condos and apartment houses. My husband´s family home still stands but is surrounded on both sides with huge apartment buildings. The district is now mostly hipsters, millennials, drug addicts and bums. (all with dogs)
The city council is probably the most radical, left-wing council in the country. They keep finding new ways to raise taxes. Not only this ´head-tax´ but they´re trying to put an income tax on Seattle residents. The mayor announced yesterday she wants to put tolls on streets in downtown. It´s never ending. There are taxes on sodas, bags, special taxes on ammo and guns. Apartment owners have to rent to the first person who applies, they can´t even do background check. Employers have a set of rules on how they make up work schedules. You absolutely cannot believe the insanity that´s going on in the city. And yet the citizens keep voting for these clowns. Yesterday, Albertson´s announced the closing of two of their grocery stores. Amazon has already raised Prime from $99 a year to $119. People don´t believe you when you tell them that the company isn´t going to pay any taxes, they will just raise the price on whatever it is they sell. The people end up paying the tax.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: chance_232, 5/16/2018 2:30:29 PM     (No. 11634157)

Wholeheartedly agree.

"Corporations dont pay taxes, people do," makes a great slogan/bumper sticker, but fails to explain why. "We" the people have failed to adequately explain simple business theories to the lofows. I sent a letter to the RNC chairman several years ago pleading with him to start explaining these issues in the media. Im firmly convinced that if everyone actually understood how businesses operate, democrats would never win elections outside of Berkley.

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