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California Wildfires Burn ‘Faster
Than Firefighters Can Run’

New York Times, by Thomas Fuller and Richard Perez-Pena

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Posted By:earlybird, 10/12/2017 2:53:05 PM

GLEN ELLEN, Calif. — Hundreds of sleep-deprived, stubble-faced firefighters, their yellow coats layered with soot, assembled here Wednesday to hear their commanders say what they already knew: The fires that have devastated California’s wine country were still spreading, nowhere near containment, and the crews battling the blazes were stretched to their limits. “I wish I could say the cavalry is coming — it’s not,” Battalion Chief Kirk Van Wormer of Cal Fire, the state firefighting agency, told the gathering of firefighters, flecks of ash raining down on them. “Look to your left and look to your right. Those are the

This may be one of the most depressing articles ever. Quite good (even considering its source) it covers a lot of information. I never fully understood the “containment percentage” until I read this. Recommended read for interested parties. I would hope politics could be held back. Americans like us have lost lives, homes and businesses. They should receive the same compassion that LDotters give to victims of other disasters. And those amazing firefighters. Our warriors.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ramona, 10/12/2017 3:24:00 PM     (No. 11414803)

It´s been over 24 hours since our own Timber Queen posted an encouraging message. I hope she and TK remain safe. Prayers for this safety of all who are in the path of these dreadful fires, and for the brave souls who are fighting them.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 2 - Posted by: shamrock, 10/12/2017 3:55:36 PM     (No. 11414840)

I understand OP, but just last week, Gov. Moonbeam declared Cal a sanctuary state and said he will not co-operate with ICE. Then yesterday he said Cal will do it´s part but it´s up to the feds to pick up the tab for the fires. I guess the feds are ok when they throw money at Cal.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: beancounter, 10/12/2017 4:56:22 PM     (No. 11414927)

Maybe this comment is too soon. This area is very fire prone, so I´m wondering what the fuel is for this fire. In the Sierra, homeowners have to clear a large area around their homes. Frequently there are controlled burns of grassland to create a firebreak before a major fire happens. Since Napa Valley, Lake Berryessa and Clear Lake areas has a major fire every couple of years, they really need to prepare for the next one.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/12/2017 5:55:55 PM     (No. 11414981)

Re #3, wildfires like these would jump multi-lane freeways. Wind-driven sparks and live embers the size of tennis balls can carry long distances.

Look at what is burning. Grassy areas that have already been cleared. In Santa Rosa it burned half of a green grass soccer field.

Here is an interesting bulletin on the subject of “clearance” to protect one’s home. Some will be surprised at how wrong some so-called “conventional wisdom” was:


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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird, 10/12/2017 5:58:08 PM     (No. 11414983)

Re #2, have a look at how California compares to other states when it comes to dependence upon federal money. This was updated in 2017:


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Reply 6 - Posted by: jimkata, 10/12/2017 7:02:47 PM     (No. 11415040)

how do separate fires start on Sunday all at once? .....ISIS, BLM, ANTIFA?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Smart11344, 10/13/2017 12:33:02 PM     (No. 11415892)

Prayers for the courageous firefighters. Now, get out. California is not worth saving.

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