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Flying Coach Is So Cramped
It Could Be a Death Trap

Daily Beast, by Clive Irving

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Posted By:Drive, 9/13/2017 11:11:05 AM

As airlines pack seats tighter than ever, the tests supposed to show that passengers can get out alive in a crash are woefully out of date. The FAA won’t make the results public, and a court warns there is “a plausible life-and-death safety concern.” For years the airlines have been allowed to steadily shrink the size of coach class seats and the space between seat rows without regulators considering the impact of this on safety. A Daily Beast investigation has found: • The tests carried out to ensure that all the passengers can safely exit a cabin in an emergency are dangerously

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: greggojo, 9/13/2017 11:24:16 AM     (No. 11382113)

I´m sure I´d change my mind if I were involved in a runway crash, but common sense tells you that you´re going to get killed in any crash that occurs in the air, even if they doubled or halved the number of seats. Also, it seems somehow hypocritical to bring these suits, when by packing so many of us into their planes, airlines have managed, in spite of the additional taxes and fees and zillions of regulations imposed by various municipalities and the feds, to keep travel affordable for most Americans.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 9/13/2017 11:35:18 AM     (No. 11382122)

In a crash you might be better off with less room. An evacuation is another matter. Several years ago I was on a flight and measured the distance from the front of my seat to the back of the seat in front. It was 7 inches. That is not enough room for an adult.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chillijilli, 9/13/2017 11:36:52 AM     (No. 11382125)

Just returned from a many-legged trip on American. On 1 of the newer planes, the bathroom was literally so small I could NOT turn around in it and I am not a big person. I had to stand facing the door and bend my body sideways to wash my hands. When I left, I asked the flight attendant if there are passengers who simply can´t use the toilet and she told me nearly ½ had trouble and maybe ¼ were "really uncomfortable."
By minimizing the bathroom size, American was able to fit in 1 more row of seats. In case of emergency, there would´ve been NO way to exit the plane in the rear because the only place to park the drink carts was by the rear door.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Uno, 9/13/2017 12:24:07 PM     (No. 11382170)

Not only that, but ya get a free crotch inspection from the TSA (who have yet to catch a terrorist) in the deal!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: starsNstripes, 9/13/2017 12:27:49 PM     (No. 11382173)

Hey #1, you are right, in a crash it wouldn´t so much matter. Where the real danger occurs is an on-ground emergency like a fire. There is simply no way to evacuate a plane with this limited space and maximum people efficiently and safely. Not enough room during a panic.

Laptop and phone batteries are a real threat (many articles written about this...see Samsung).

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Reply 6 - Posted by: tennman, 9/13/2017 12:52:50 PM     (No. 11382189)

And reading the Daily Beast causes brain cells to die.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 9/13/2017 1:35:38 PM     (No. 11382243)

And then there is the natural resentment of someone overhanging half the space you are assigned to sit in. Really, no one above 145 lbs should be allowed to fly.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: earlybird, 9/13/2017 2:12:22 PM     (No. 11382304)

We had one short trip and return several years ago when a family member died suddenly.

The End.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 9/13/2017 2:43:20 PM     (No. 11382346)

Last time I flew coach, my knees were jammed into the seat into front of me, and I´m only 6´1". I was constantly adjusting my position. It was pure misery. I do not fly coach anymore.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 9/13/2017 3:27:56 PM     (No. 11382380)

Same here, #9. We have been flying coach so we could economize and spend the savings on actual vacation time. No longer. Coach is almost impossible for me to suffer anymore. Went to France on Air France two years ago. Seven and a half hours....horrible, uncomfortable, jammed up in a too small seat. Never again. All this after the hassle of airport security. They can have it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: thewarden, 9/13/2017 6:31:25 PM     (No. 11382537)

It´s like flying in a cattle car with wings...great line from a very old SNL bit.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Udanja99, 9/13/2017 8:09:58 PM     (No. 11382596)

I´m with you #7. Anyone who bulges over into another person´s seat should have to pay that person half of the cost of his/her ticket. If someone needs a seat belt extender, he/she should be forced to purchase 2 seats.

On the other hand, being stuck between two obese people in a crash just might save your life - all that extra padding.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 9/13/2017 11:43:15 PM     (No. 11382737)

This is all about surviving and escaping a plane.

There´s another hazard involved in tiny seats with no leg room: Sitting jammed in like that for hours on end, how many people get a case of deep vein thrombosis/blood clot, and end up seriously ill or dead?

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