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EPA Wants Gov´t To Control
How Cold Your Beer Can Be

Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial

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Posted By:HollowLeg, 7/5/2013 8:44:29 PM

Regulation: No longer the stuff of science fiction, a little-noticed change in energy-efficiency requirements for appliances could lead to government controlling the power used in your home and how you set your thermostat. In a seemingly innocuous revision of its Energy Star efficiency requirements announced June 27, the Environmental Protection Agency included an "optional" requirement for a "smart-grid" connection for customers to electronically connect their refrigerators or freezers with a utility provider. The feature lets the utility provider regulate the appliances´ power consumption, "including curtailing operations during more expensive peak-demand times."

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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 7/5/2013 8:49:34 PM     (No. 9410658)

Such an attachment will be met with a blowtorch to insure its malfunction.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: larhof52, 7/5/2013 9:11:59 PM     (No. 9410670)

They already control how much water a toilet or faucet can use. Water coolers have been regulated for years on how cold they can be.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Safari Man, 7/5/2013 9:16:59 PM     (No. 9410676)

We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK

Why didn´t people listen to what this guy was saying in 2008 or 2012?

You can bet your sweet bippy that some dimocrat crony will profit handsomely from this "advancement".


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Reply 4 - Posted by: Videodrone, 7/5/2013 9:17:45 PM     (No. 9410679)

the nudge is to get us all in to high density housing along mass transit routes, once they achieve that, the next step will be articles on how wasteful having your own kitchen and ´loo and how much more efficient having communal kitchens and facilities are - next steps?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 7/5/2013 9:25:15 PM     (No. 9410685)

If the EPA wants warm beer, they can go to Britain.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Hazymac, 7/5/2013 9:33:54 PM     (No. 9410692)

EPA needs to be shut. down. now.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Videodrone, 7/5/2013 9:36:12 PM     (No. 9410694)

sorry for the 2nd post but the "warm beer" is a misnomer - good beer (i.e. stuff that does have an actual body and flavor is typically best served at "cellar temp") which if the beer has actual body and flavor will bring out - otherwise I suggest you play close heed to the "philosophers from down under" (Monty Python reference) regarding "lite" beer - more like making love in a canoe - "effnig close to water"

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 7/5/2013 9:38:14 PM     (No. 9410696)

I will never forget the winter day in Ipswich, England when I was told that they could not sell me a beer because the refrigerator in the unheated basement was broken, so they could not guarantee that the beer was cooled to 55 degrees. It was 40 degrees outside at the time.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Calico Al, 7/5/2013 9:42:22 PM     (No. 9410701)

If you want ice cold beer just put them in an ice bucket. I hope they aren´t reading these posts, then they will be regulating how cold an ice cube can be.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lil dotty, 7/5/2013 9:47:41 PM     (No. 9410703)

The EPA will determine the type of light bulb we are allowed to use, how much water your toilet will use, how much water comes through our shower head, how many miles our car must get on a gallon of gas, how cold/warm our home must be, how many calories we consume daily, and now they want to control our beverage temperature. They must also enforce how many ice cubes are in a glass of liquid refreshment. Save water. Shower with a friend This is a banana republic so save those banana peels. We will need them when we run short of toilet paper as they have in Chavez country

Dismantle the EPA, ed-fund and disembowel.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: plex, 7/5/2013 9:52:30 PM     (No. 9410707)

Note: One can defeat the faucet flow regulator with a small drill. One can defeat the toilet flush regulation by bending the right lever part. Capitalism will defeat any smart meter technology either with a line filter to stop power line signals or Faraday shield (grounded aluminum foil) to defeat wireless communication. Appliances will plug into a filter box that hangs on the outlet and stops powerline communication. Capitalism will keep us free.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Achilles, 7/5/2013 10:13:22 PM     (No. 9410727)

The end result of all this fundamental transformation is a society like that described in "We", a novel by Yevgeny Zamyatin in 1921. Highlights of such a society are sex tickets that grant you permission to close the curtain on your glass apartment when you have a guest. Absent the constitutional limits on government power, there are no limits. I would not oppose a Bastille day for these public servants that would control every aspect of our lives.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Donttreadonme, 7/5/2013 10:29:18 PM     (No. 9410734)

Add the EPA to the growing list of agencies needing to be defended.



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Reply 14 - Posted by: nonsense, 7/5/2013 10:31:46 PM     (No. 9410737)

Somewhere in this faulty move is a Demonrat control-every-aspect-of-our-lives electronic disaster just waiting to happen.

The new Energy Star Appliances that I have purchased the past few years are junk, junk, and trash. Not one of them works efficiently, and the new mandated energy saving mechanisms are ludicrous.

Banana Republic standards are being imposed at every level of our existence.

Vote every Demonrat out of office.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Texan1stCavDad, 7/5/2013 10:50:25 PM     (No. 9410747)

Our Glorious Leader´s EPA is going to provide FREE BEER? s/o

May I suggest

Sam Adams
Any good local brew
Jupiler (Belgium)
RugenBrau (Interlaken, Switzerland)
Augustiner Helles (Munich, Germany)
Radeberger (Berlin, Germany)
Pilsner Urquell (Czech Republic)
Guinness (Ireland)
Newcastle Brown Ale (England)
Paulaner (Munich, Germany)
Kilkenny (Ireland)
Berliner Kindl (Berlin, Germany)

I´ll use my Obama Phone to call the EPA and say "Cheers".

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Reply 16 - Posted by: 4justice, 7/5/2013 11:04:40 PM     (No. 9410757)

#12, but they will still watch you through your TV set, listen through your phone which is hung up, or send one of their 500 x-ray vans to look into your home...
The tyrants want to control every aspect of ur life and will, if we let them.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Pepper Tree, 7/5/2013 11:05:09 PM     (No. 9410758)

As long as I own a bucket and can make or buy ice, my beer and watermelon will be just the way they´ve always been - with or without some nanny´s approval. Country boy will survive.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: veritas, 7/6/2013 12:18:38 AM     (No. 9410806)

What´s all the hoo-haw about smart grid connections and such? Making a special system for them?

Simpler to just connect ´em to the NSA feed in our houses, no?

#6: ´Til we can take proper steps, how about we require the EPA to run all its offices etc., with demand-metered windmill-and-solar-panel electricity only?

#10: Re your closing "what to do with the EPA," I would just add, "rinse, repeat."

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Reply 19 - Posted by: melanie, 7/6/2013 12:33:12 AM     (No. 9410813)

This is about liberty, not beer. These people have to be stopped. I won´t buy and appliance with a government controller on it, and if they all have them, then I will learn how to disable it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Lou E Brown, 7/6/2013 12:34:45 AM     (No. 9410814)

The EPA is run by unelected cronies of the Glorious Leader who has no idea what he is talking about, rather reading from TPOTUS. We are being maneuvered by the czars such as Glenn Beck told us about several years ago, Cass Sunstein being one of his cronies. He believes in civil rights for trees and plants. We have a gang of faceless sycophants who may or may not know anything about ergs and ohms, and I don´t either, but I do know they are rather swiftly closing the net. During the first round of Solar Heating and Cooling, during the Jimmy Carter days, it sounded interesting, so we went underground. Front glass facing the south west to catch the best sun on Dec. 21st, skylight for back of long open room, 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, carport, food pantry and own water source, dug before the ´all water belongs to the state´ edicts. If you own land with a hill of some sort, dig out the hill, put your house in it. Ours is octagonal. Wood burning stove for heat, and the electric bill is not as high as people in town. We are on 9.5 acres in deep East Texas woods, but close to a nice town where I taught school for 24 of my 43 years. Husband, retired military.
We may or may not survive the Obama hell.



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Reply 21 - Posted by: StuartL, 7/6/2013 12:43:48 AM     (No. 9410816)

Better headline: "EPA will soon be able to turn off your fridge and freezer." Not as punchy as the original but a good deal more accurate.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Crosscut, 7/6/2013 12:48:45 AM     (No. 9410821)

The EPA s u c k s as does the IRS, DHS and the DOJ under Holder´s control. America would be so much better off without these inept and corrupt agencies.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: geoman, 7/6/2013 1:18:14 AM     (No. 9410833)

We´ll wind up paying coyotes to smuggle bootleg refrigerators across the border. That´ll make the feds finally build the dang fence.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Mushroom, 7/6/2013 1:46:49 AM     (No. 9410844)

Our local power co-op is at least more honest about it. There are two programs. The first is if you need to replace your water heater, if you signed up in advance, you may purchase it from the co-op at a discounted rate IF you allow your home to be put on power saving controls. I.E. they turn off your stuff when the grid gets near overload.
The second program is subsidizing the purchase and install of a back up generator ( our power goes out a LOT ). They claim to give a 25% discount IF you allow them to use your generator to contribute to the grid on their command. You get to pay for the fuel, a mandatory $300 maintenance program, and repairs so the co-op can back up it´s grid when they wish free power.
Yes, they do charge about 40% more than other contractors can install the same generator.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: kono, 7/6/2013 4:04:32 AM     (No. 9410886)

EPA wants to what?

Tell ´em to play with their own dang thermostats and leave ours the hell alone.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Country Boy, 7/6/2013 4:09:46 AM     (No. 9410888)

Happy to report that coal sales (for home heating) are booming in my area.

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