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Even Big Labor Unions
Drop Support For Obamacare

Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial

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Posted By:PageTurner, 4/27/2013 10:46:26 AM

Health Care Politics: As ObamaCare rolls out, some of its biggest backers from labor to D.C. lawmakers are having second thoughts. It´s a sign that the idea of ending this national nightmare isn´t about to go away. Late last week, the 22,000-member United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers dropped a bombshell on the Obama administration, not only withdrawing its support for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, but also demanding its repeal. The reason: ObamaCare subsidizes low-paid non-union workers in small companies that don´t insure their employees,

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Big Labor cuts its own throat and expects you the taxpayer to bail them out.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 4/27/2013 11:06:10 AM     (No. 9299360)

The bottom line is that health care is not a "right", it is something you work for, like a car, house, food, clothing, education, etc. The people who are working for their healthcare, and have made the life choices necessary to do so, are all finally waking up to the fact that they are being screwed to pay for healthcare for everyone else.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Dante, 4/27/2013 11:07:47 AM     (No. 9299363)

Glad for the opposition, but I have no sympathy for these creeps. They supported it when they thought it meant "free" stuff for them, now that the tables are turned they finally realize they were played for suckers.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Pinchem, 4/27/2013 11:07:59 AM     (No. 9299365)

Love it when Union Greed bites them in the posterior. Would be nice if the rank and file would wise up and realize their leaders do NOT act in their best interest. They only deal in their own interest.

You got what you voted for. Deal with it.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: M2, 4/27/2013 11:15:39 AM     (No. 9299378)

As unions peel away, Democrats who voted for "reform" are backing away from ObamaCare, too.

Weren´t a lot of these unions given an opt out by the O Administration right after the bill was passed? If that is so, why are some unions still wanting to get off this trainwreck-in-waiting?

I´m delighted that Nancy Pelosi´s comment "We have to pass the bill so you can see what´s in it" has had the effect it seems to be having. When O´s buddies in the unions don´t even want it, you know it´s in trouble.

Now, it´s up to Congress. But let´s wait a little while longer -- long enough to have more and more groups and unions and businesses call for repeal.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MDConservative, 4/27/2013 11:15:55 AM     (No. 9299379)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend...let´s get rid of this Obamacare monstrosity with the "workingman´s friends". I may be an opportune time for conservatives to educate some "producers" that they´re being played by their own goons. Maybe we can put a dent into this neo-Com tyranny.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: MattMusson, 4/27/2013 11:23:42 AM     (No. 9299391)

This Unions line of reasoning would basically apply to every union I can think of. They are just the first to point out the obvious.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 4/27/2013 12:58:40 PM     (No. 9299494)

If Congresses track record is any indication, should they ever get rid of Ocare, it will only be replaced by something equally hideous.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 4/27/2013 1:02:47 PM     (No. 9299499)

I understand that many Governments (national, state, and local) require contracts at union labor rates. If this is the case the taxpayer again gets hit with the additional costs union shops have to pay.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: MeiDei, 4/27/2013 1:03:37 PM     (No. 9299500)

Has it been decided who will pay the 40% tax on the top insurance policy. I thought the insured were responcible but have heard mentioned that the employer would be better the better choice. IIRC 0bama 1st referred to them as Premium policies, then as Champagne & now as Cadillac policies (free ad for GM?)

So if you´re a City, State or Fed worker & you get a loaded policy that the taxpayer subsidizes in part or most, is the taxpayer also expected to pay the 40% on these policies? Anyone?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: MeiDei, 4/27/2013 1:08:30 PM     (No. 9299504)

sorry - should read *responsible*

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jalo1951, 4/27/2013 1:18:43 PM     (No. 9299513)

Looks like the union chickens are coming home to roost. You wanted it you got it so shut up.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Spidey, 4/27/2013 2:31:56 PM     (No. 9299561)

It all depends on the meaning of subsidy. If you´re a lofo or illegal your subsidy is free coverage. If you´re a business your subsidy might be a tax credit at the end of the year. The thing is employer provided healthcare is already subsidized as a deduction for business.That and the home mortgage deductions are the two biggest in the tax code.

Nobody knows what kind of subsidies a small business would get under Obamacare, so this union could be barking for nothing or even fishing for their own middle of the night,gift subsidy.

The roofers union ought to be more concerned about illegals taking over their industry.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: lilo, 4/27/2013 6:41:16 PM     (No. 9299775)

The unions will still support Obama, just not support Obamacare. idiots.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Trigger2, 4/28/2013 5:04:34 AM     (No. 9300005)

Don´t be surprised to find out 6 months down the road that congress inserted a provision in some bill to exempt themselves. Further in the bill there will be an add-on to some sentence exempting all unions.

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