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Judge rules secret FBI national
security letters unconstitutional

Fox News & Associated Press, by Staff

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 3/17/2013 12:38:54 AM

San Francisco - A federal judge has struck down a set of laws allowing the FBI to issue so-called national security letters to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding customer information. U.S. District Judge Susan Illston said the laws violate the First Amendment and the separation of powers principles and ordered the government to stop issuing the secretive letters or enforcing their gag orders, The Wall Street Journal reported. The FBI almost always bars recipients of the letters from disclosing to anyone — including customers — that they have even received the

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Before we get too excited, the government has 90 days to get an appeal before the 9th Circus. So, only time will tell. It is fitting that an unnamed party sued for these unnamed documents being put out for info on US. Just how many has not been stated in this article, or who was "targeted."

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/17/2013 3:16:11 AM     (No. 9228959)

Sounds like a win on the surface but O´s black bag of dirty tricks and go-arounds is bottomless.Obama has an incredibly large spy network on Americans but our foreign intelligence is horrific.Obama´s foreign intelligence mandate is see no evil,hear no evil.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: gator, 3/17/2013 4:06:16 AM     (No. 9228973)

Ditto 1. Laws and Constitutional Amendments are to be used against zero’s enemies when useful. They are to be ignored, destroyed, or simply by-passed if they become an impedance to his socialist agenda.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: planetgeo, 3/17/2013 7:58:11 AM     (No. 9229067)

Not said was whether there are any established guidelines for the circumstances under which such searches can even be initiated, nor whether there are any checks and balances set up. The implication is that the FBI can do so for anything they claim is national security related and without the possibility of review or redress.

If so, the FBI is beginning to resemble the KGB, and this country is becoming like the Soviet Union. And nobody in Congress seems to notice or care.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bubby, 3/17/2013 8:02:40 AM     (No. 9229073)

Ditto 1 & 2. I have no faith that Congress or the Courts can stop Obama from doing anything he wants and he knows that. SCJ Roberts flipping on Obamacare after a little pressure from Obama and the msm convinced me that he will be unchallenged in his destruction of the country. It appears that Congress and the Courts believe it is better to destroy the country and the Constitution than to be called a racist.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: pindarjr, 3/17/2013 9:04:28 AM     (No. 9229134)

The powers we allow government are always worrisome and they are especially so in a regime led by someone such as Obama whose lack of prudence increases the danger of their being abused. But here is my understanding of the USA Patriot Act. Its main thrust was to allow federal agencies engaged in terrorist investigations to employ the same or similar techniques routinely used in criminal investigations, techniques such as getting the target´s telephone records. In a criminal case the target must be informed, after a set period of time, that the agency obtained this information. The fact that an agency can hold this fact from a suspected terrorist longer than from a suspected criminal is based on the simple and practical concern that the former is far more dangerous than the latter. Any attorneys and/or national security experts out there? Am I correct or not?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: LZK, 3/17/2013 9:27:27 AM     (No. 9229168)

How many of you watch NCIS? If you do -- you know that computer geeks already know how to access your bank records, your credit card purchases, your travels via cell phone towers, etc. So what else do they need?

This is all for show.....AND it´s san francisco????? Give me a break!! One of the dumbest libbie cities in the country. Who are they kidding.....

LZK

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Reply 7 - Posted by: M2, 3/17/2013 10:09:33 AM     (No. 9229234)

A Department of Justice spokesman told the Journal the department was "reviewing the order."

Does anyone want to bet against most of these demands being about registered Republicans, white people in general, Christians or people with an income above a certain high level?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: pontique, 3/17/2013 10:17:05 AM     (No. 9229245)

#4...Obambi can be challenged IF we have the balls to do it. There is a manure pile of evidence that proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that this man if a fraud and an illegal occupant of the oval office. All we need is some official to have the guts to present it to the world. Then poof...he is gone. Somebody out there DO IT!!!!!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Starlady, 3/17/2013 10:19:53 AM     (No. 9229253)

The first article I read about this didn´t indicate it was toward businesses and I thought they were threatening individual citizens. This administration is pretty threatening to everyone. Why can´t moderate Dems see it?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Butch59, 3/17/2013 10:38:10 AM     (No. 9229278)

This is just another way the Obozo can gain information on someone so he can formulate a plan of action to hurt said person. I have wondered just what he dug up of Roberts to have him change his vote on Obomacare like he did. I firmly believe that pressure of some sort was brought to bare.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: readitfirst, 3/17/2013 11:39:42 AM     (No. 9229393)

Wait, only New York and California have been troubled by this?? They are both liberal states hell bent on removing all protections for citizens so is this action about something else??

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Reply 12 - Posted by: toddh, 3/17/2013 12:21:05 PM     (No. 9229461)

I would be interested in a story tallying the good that has come from these NSLs. (There is of course a temptation to insert the phrase "if any," but wanted to avoid the taint of snark.)

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ecclesiastes, 3/17/2013 10:21:33 PM     (No. 9230218)

This is the wacky ninth circuit, the most over turned district court.

False hope.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: thelmalou, 3/17/2013 10:51:13 PM     (No. 9230237)

I like this ruling. If they want the info, let ´em get a warrant.


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