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Conservatism and the
Search for Apostates

Commentary Magazine, by Peter Wehner

Original Article

Posted By:Pluperfect, 3/11/2013 5:22:52 PM

During a recent interview on NBC’s The Today Show, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush was asked whether the Republican Party should put revenue increases on the table in order to reach a grand bargain. (Snip)But the main point I want to underscore is the danger to conservatism when someone like Jeb Bush (or Mitch Daniels, or Bob McDonnell, or Chris Christie) is considered an apostate. Let’s consider Bush’s record as governor. While Bush never signed an anti-tax pledge, he never raised taxes. In fact, he cut taxes every year he was governor (covering eight years and totaling $20 billion).

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Sing it, Peter! The sharks circle for each of our people sooner or later and, as is usual with sharks, there´s no particular principle involved. I don´t think dislike of Jeb´s surname qualifies as a principle.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: kahunavol, 3/11/2013 5:33:57 PM     (No. 9219910)

Call them whatever you like, just don´t be surprised or blame us when we don´t vote for them. We aren´t obliged to accept your definitions.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: trapper, 3/11/2013 5:42:08 PM     (No. 9219922)

FTA: "But the main point I want to underscore is the danger to conservatism when someone like Jeb Bush (or Mitch Daniels, or Bob McDonnell, or Chris Christie) is considered an apostate."

You lose your argument the moment you link anyone with that traitor Christie. I don´t care what argument you try to make as far as Christie being a pragmatic conservative, yadda yadda yadda. No one, and I mean NO ONE, who expects to retain any support from American conservatives, does a day of campaign stops with the most radical president in American history a week before the election. And I don´t care WHO the Republican candidate is or even whether one considers him conservative or moderate. You don´t campaign for the radical democrat president.

Therefore, the minute you lump Jeb in with Christie you´re finished and I´m done listening.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dman, 3/11/2013 5:42:27 PM     (No. 9219923)

What we´re searching for are candidates who won´t cave on their principles when the inevitable pressure is applied. Candidates we can rely upon to represent our perspective.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 3/11/2013 5:49:24 PM     (No. 9219932)

We will undoubtedly be seeing and hearing more of Jeb Bush, who is certainly worth a closer look. But we have already seen and heard enough of Chris Christie, who, it turns out, is little more than a rude, loudmouthed political opportunist who is militantly and dangerously ignorant of the central tenets of Islam. Whatever else Christie is or is not, he is not sound on Islam. That should be a deal breaker by itself.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dwa, 3/11/2013 6:06:50 PM     (No. 9219966)

I always have to laugh when people say that Reagan couldn´t get the Republican nomination the way the Repubs are now. What is never said is that Kennedy could never get the Dem nomination as radical as the Dem Party has become today. As to the "Centrists" and "Rhinos" in the Repub Party and how they are attacked whenever they "don´t tow the conservative line" it seems to me that that is a response to repeatedly being told one thing by these supposed conservative, only to see just the opposite when they are elected. Conservatives are tired of this BS, thus the attacks whenever any slight chink in the conservative orthodoxy appears.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/11/2013 6:07:49 PM     (No. 9219967)

Why do the Brand Repubs care what we little Tea people think? We are not important to them nor do we have anything intelligent to say. I thought the moderates were quite happy winning the nomination and losing the presidency. It is what they do best. And, each and every time I have voted for their loser candidate. I personally loved Bush II. I was pulling for Bush I until he did not read my lips. But, they are old hat one worlders and this gal will not vote for another Bush nor another moderate. So what? I am not the voter Republicans want anyway.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: skywarrior, 3/11/2013 6:27:57 PM     (No. 9219992)

Well said #7.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: redink, 3/11/2013 6:40:16 PM     (No. 9220009)

Dittos #7. I feel like I was brought to the dance and left in a corner.

Wehner´s article cited Reagan and another time and place. This is the problem...we are battling radicalism on a scale not previously known in America.

It´s tiresome to keep hearing about the "purity" question. Conservatives aren´t searching for apostates, we looking for someone to stand up to Obama...not agree; apologize; negotiate, hug, or dine with him.

There is no way for this country to survive except to refuse to compromise with this regime on anything anymore. He does not act like a President and never has. What is so hard to understand about that Peter?
Jeb...wake up and smell the end of America. Then we´ll talk.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: mitzi, 3/11/2013 6:44:14 PM     (No. 9220012)

I have no problem sitting out an election.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: RoseOfTexas, 3/11/2013 7:17:44 PM     (No. 9220058)

"Apostates"? Really? Sounds like a dog whistle for those who think people of a certain faith (Guess which one!) should just keep their mouths shut & vote straight R, whether the GOP has any respect for their values/beliefs or not.

Dittos to #7 & #9.

Dear Jeb: next time you get that question, say, "Well if by ´revenue increases´ you mean lifting regulatory burdens & lowering tax rates, which have both been proven to increase revenue whenever they´ve been tried, yes, Republicans should put those on the table - front & center!"

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Reply 11 - Posted by: stymie82, 3/11/2013 8:20:09 PM     (No. 9220141)

Very good point #11.

Two Bushes are more than enough! Both featured progressive policies and manic spending (though not at King Putt levels). GWB allowed himself to be a silent punching bag for his whole second term and allowed outrages like allowing Ted Kennedy to write the education bill. Stay out the Bushes and away from Judas Christie.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Italiano, 3/11/2013 8:28:58 PM     (No. 9220149)

What is interesting if not particularly funny, #7, et. al., is that the "voters Republicans want," at least according to the November post-mortems, would commit mass suicide before they would vote Republican. Democrats have the free (stuff)panderfest strategy down pat.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: octrojan, 3/11/2013 8:30:06 PM     (No. 9220152)

More whining from those that helped elect Obama by sitting out? How´d that work out for ya?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/11/2013 8:58:57 PM     (No. 9220174)

I have never sat out an election in my life. So snark up another tree poster.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: noproblems, 3/11/2013 9:29:06 PM     (No. 9220201)

#14, how is that $17 trillion debt working out for ya?

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

keep voting for whomever the ruling class rinos puts in front you. i am sure it will turn out better next time.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kahunavol, 3/11/2013 10:26:52 PM     (No. 9220250)

Voted for Bush and Romney, the sitting out meme is silly but if it makes you feel better keep believing it. The metrics don´t bear it out. Romney got a million more votes than McCain.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Quaestio, 3/11/2013 11:08:10 PM     (No. 9220292)

If we really are in a battle for the future of this country, and I think we are, then we need to be far more strategic than most people on this site are willing to be. There are quite a number of people who were not wiling to vote for Mitt Romney because he was not a true conservative. How is that working out for us?

Obama and his handlers have their own agenda to destroy this country. He isn´t even listening to Democrats, there is no way he is going to do anything but try and completely destroy all Republicans and conservatives. Mitt Romney loves this country and would have put us on a sane fiscal path. And he would have listened to the people regarding other issues. Bush nominated Harriet Meyers, but withdrew her nomination when the people complained. He was open to amnesty, but did he ram it down our throats or did he change his mind when the people spoke, the way a president should?

If you don´t like the Republican nominee, then change the way the primaries are done, be a constant fixture at your town halls, join Heritage/Freedomworks/etc. When an issue comes up, make your voice heard to the president and your representatives.

But too many people wanted to only vote for their perfect candidate (who doesn´t exist and didn´t run) and now the country is lost. Every day that goes by it becomes more and more clear we will not recover from the next four years of damage that Obama will do.

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