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L.A. to ask high court to overturn
ruling on homeless belongings

Los Angeles Times, by Andrew Blankstein & Alexandra Zavis

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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/28/2013 10:26:46 AM

Citing an immediate public health threat, the city of Los Angeles will ask the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday to overturn a lower-court ruling preventing the random seizure and destruction of belongings that homeless people leave temporarily unattended on public sidewalks. If the court takes up the matter, the case could have broad implications for cities nationwide grappling with how to keep streets clean and safe while respecting the property rights of those who live there. Fresno faces more than 30 lawsuits arising from its efforts to clean up downtown homeless encampments.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 2/28/2013 10:55:12 AM     (No. 9200863)

Dems love poor folk....at a distance.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: kofcfn, 2/28/2013 11:08:49 AM     (No. 9200888)

We are talking about the 9th district circus court.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: farmwife, 2/28/2013 11:09:43 AM     (No. 9200891)

The homeless and all their belongings should be moved---gently, of course--to the neighborhoods of politicians and judges.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 2/28/2013 11:16:36 AM     (No. 9200904)

One of these people set up his own camp in front of one of our lovely libraries. A historical monument built in 1925. He had multiple shopping carts, folding tables, a lounge and assorted paraphernalia, and effectively lived there, drying his laundry (which he apparently did in the library bathroom) by spreading it over the landscape shrubbery.

He was clearly an alcoholic as bottles were evident amongst his stuff and he was often spaced out. Sleeping it off.

This library is one that is frequented by whole classrooms of kids from public and Catholic schools nearby.

I kept after the City and finally - whether due to my being a nuisance or not - he was moved on and out. With his stuff.

When I lived in Santa Barbara, the police regularly cleared out the encampments set up across from East Beach.

Neither you nor I could camp out on the sidewalk or on other public property. What gives them the right to do so?

They cannot stay in homeless shelters because the homeless shelters will not allow them to bring all that stuff with them.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 2/28/2013 11:22:04 AM     (No. 9200914)

If on public sidewalks or any public property all trash should be removed, attended or not.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/28/2013 11:22:59 AM     (No. 9200917)


City attorneys question whether the 4th Amendment protection from unlawful seizures and the 14th Amendment guarantee of due process extend to people who violate a city ordinance requiring them to remove their possessions during posted cleanup times, especially when free storage is available.

"Posted cleanup times" and "free storage". What is it about that that is too much for them to deal with?

And why do they need the "posted cleanup times" (when this stuff must be moved to permit cleaning the sidewalks)?

"The presence of this unattended property makes it impossible to clean the sidewalks, leads to an accumulation of human waste and rotting food around and underneath, that in turn provides a breeding ground for vermin and bacteria," the filing said.

At the city´s request, the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health inspected skid row last year and cited the city for violations of county and state health codes, including an accumulation of human waste, needles, condoms and a rat infestation. The city launched a major cleanup effort, during which workers removed 278 hypodermic needles, 94 syringes, 60 razor blades, 10 knives, 11 items of other drug paraphernalia and two 5-gallon buckets of feces, according to the filing.


Try this in one of the judges´ neighborhoods...

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