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Conservative infighting must stop
Human Events, by Al Cardenas

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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/22/2013 3:49:13 PM

This week the American Conservative Union was pleased to announce our annual Ratings of Congress; the occasion of these ratings is often cause for agreement and disagreement. For 42 years, ACU has published these ratings of every member of Congress. Its purpose, as stated in each edition, is to find the dividing line between conservatives and liberals and those who are somewhere in the middle. There are a few reasons why, throughout the years, the ACU Ratings of Congress have become the go-to guide to determine whether an elected official’s philosophical rhetoric matches his or her record.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: neanderthal, 2/22/2013 4:10:04 PM     (No. 9191352)

Conservatives will stop fighting as soon as there´s some difference between the Republican candidates and the Democrat candidates.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 2/22/2013 4:18:32 PM     (No. 9191367)

Bingo #1!! Moderates need to start owning some of the issues that we are facing, starting with the support of the past 2 rino candidates. Not saying conservatives are perfect, far from it. At least conservatism gets elected nationwide when it is tried. Stop asking us to cave on our morals and principles please.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Javelin, 2/22/2013 4:19:19 PM     (No. 9191368)

There are real and substantial differences between Republicans and Democrats.
There are those who continue to obscur the differences to the advantage of the Democrats.
Destroying our friends will not change policies in government.


Reply 4 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/22/2013 4:24:24 PM     (No. 9191371)

Sane Republicans will not stop fighting until there is some difference between Likud and GOP foreign policy. Or, some difference between bomb-throwing imbeciles like Levin and the party agenda. Or, some difference between Christine O´Donnell, Akin, Buck, Mourdock, or Angle, and a GOP Senatorial candidate.


Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley, 2/22/2013 4:41:44 PM     (No. 9191398)

#1 nails it. Republicans and Democrats (communists now) are driving the country down the same road and into the same abyss. They just fight over which lane to drive in.
What we need is someone to put on the blasted brakes and turn around. We wont find that with the GOP I fear.


Reply 6 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/22/2013 4:47:24 PM     (No. 9191409)

It´s a cop-out to say Dems and Republicans are just alike, an easy excuse for not liking whatever is happening in Washington and for lying back and doing nothing. You know it´s not true. Paul Ryan and Steny Hoyer are not just alike. Eric Cantor and Nancy Pelosi are not just alike. We have no one on our side as muckraking as John Conyers or Elijah Cummings. Mitch McConnell has nothing in common with Harry Reid It´s a quick "me too" to make the claim, but it´s a lie.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/22/2013 4:54:47 PM     (No. 9191429)

Until Karl Rove stops pretending to be a conservative, when we know he is not conservative the fighting will continue.
We did it HIS way, McCain and Romney..now we´ll do it the conservative way..as in HOUSE 2010.
How´s Rove´s track record? uh huh, yet HE thinks he can choose candidates for the party?


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/22/2013 5:10:25 PM     (No. 9191459)

How is Rove´s track record. Two Bush terms, for better or worse, 2010 midterms. How´s Limbaugh and Limbaugh´s brain (Mark Levin) record? Santorum? Angle? Akin? Moerdock? O´Donnell? Palin? Good grief. I could go on.


Reply 9 - Posted by: miceal, 2/22/2013 5:13:40 PM     (No. 9191463)

Last time I checked it WAS NOT Conservatives infighting but Conservatives disagreeing with Moderates and RINO´s. To that WE will never stop disagreeing......


Reply 10 - Posted by: Susannah, 2/22/2013 5:16:30 PM     (No. 9191468)

When John Cornyn, with an ACU lifetime rating of 93, gets attacked by "conservatives" for being a liberal, you have to wonder what the motives of those "conservatives" attacking him are.


Reply 11 - Posted by: JAN, 2/22/2013 5:16:56 PM     (No. 9191469)

It´s all about ratings, don´t you know.

Everyone wants to be the next Joe Scarborough. Bashing republicans makes dollars and cents.

JMO


Reply 12 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 2/22/2013 5:29:27 PM     (No. 9191485)

#6 is right. Those who complain that the Republicans are the same as the Democrats are engaging in the same type of radical hyperbole as the leftist Democrats when they accuse Republicans of hating the poor, opposing women´s rights, hating science, abrogating freedom, etc. I don´t especially like John McCain´s politics, but any sane conservative must now admin that he would have been much better for the country than Obama. In fact, I would prefer to elect almost any RINO than to have a congressional seat fall to a Democrat. And as for third party candidates, in almost all cases they only serve to draw votes from the Republican candidate, enabling the Democrat to win. Grow up and face the facts. No Republican candidate can satisfy conservative voters on every issue. The goal is to pick the most conservative candidate in the primary (making certain that the Democrats don´t pass off a spoiler) and then vote for the Republican, whoever it is, in the election. It´s not the candidates who are losing elections; it´s the divisions between moderates and conservatives over pet issues which compromises support for our candidates and gives our opponents the victory.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: gesundheit, 2/22/2013 5:31:14 PM     (No. 9191488)

The reason Republicans are so demoralized is because Congressional Republicans, in league with the liberal MSM, insist on putting the most uncharismatic, demoralizing individuals -- primarily John McCain, Lindsay Graham, John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell -- in positions of power and therefore in the public eye as the face of the Republican party.

Nowhere outside of a nursing home would anyone encounter such a quartet of old, terminally uninspiring nebbishes in leadership positions as Congressional Republicans have chosen for themselves.

Would anyone be eager to buy stock from a company with a dreary old CEO? No, that´s why successful companies have mandatory retirement ages.

Until the McCains, Grahams, Boehners, and McConnells step down in favor of dynamic young Republicans like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, the Republican party will continue to languish.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 2/22/2013 5:38:41 PM     (No. 9191497)

Only an idiot would spend time sowing division within the Republican Party. It is one of the two major parties. You must play within the rules to succeed. Calling anyone a Rino is counterproductive. We need for our tent be bigger rather than smaller and more intensely doctrinaire.

A third party new movement could not prevail for decades. Can you wait decades? I can´t. If the guy next to you wants us to try that, rip open his shirt and see if he is wearing a big D underneath, because that is who will profit by this ankle biting and division. I am embarrassed for us.


Reply 15 - Posted by: Starlady, 2/22/2013 6:31:15 PM     (No. 9191576)

#12, I guess you didn´t get the memo, John McCain lost the 2008 election all by himself. He did not want to win.


Reply 16 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/22/2013 6:57:10 PM     (No. 9191604)

that is the great thing about being an american; we dont have to do what we dont want to do just because some learned "go-along-to get along" says we need to.

hate to burst your bubble, but the republican party post-Reagan will fundamentally change or go the way of the Whigs.

You can wish and say what you want, but no Bush, Dole, McCain or Romney type will ever be president again.

Deal with it.


Reply 17 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/22/2013 7:00:40 PM     (No. 9191607)

oh, and #14, conformity for conformity sake is unamerican. dont believe George Washington, Thomas Jefferson etc were playing within the rules.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Burger, 2/22/2013 7:19:45 PM     (No. 9191621)

I am terribly sorry, but the current mess is completely the Moderate Republicans Fault. The sooner moderate republicans quit trying to convince us that Republicans who vote with the Democrats nine out of ten times are our friends, we will all start to make some head way. From the Divisive policy of the "Electable" Candidate, to the divisive beat of the drum to ABANDON Conservative principles, the Moderates among us have been wrong every time. It is time for the Moderates to moderate, or be left in the political wilderness. It is the Moderates choice to make. You would think with TWO presidential election losses under the moderates belt they would catch a clue. Turns out moderates are not moderates after all. If you support public schools, vote democrat, and if you want bureaucracies at the federal level, Vote Democrat. This Conservative is done with losers. You have to support conservative policies EIGHT out of Ten, not just once.


Reply 19 - Posted by: dman, 2/22/2013 7:39:02 PM     (No. 9191645)

A house divided cannot - and should not - stand.

New party. With the RINOs in control of the GOP, a few cycles of Democrat dominance (including 2014) will be little practical change from the status quo. Our Emperor will get the policies and appointees he wants because after a bit of Kabuki posturing, the GOP RINOs will cave - every time.

Eventually the GOP will go the way of the Whigs and be replaced by the new party. Only then will there be real push-back to the statist agenda. Short-term loss, long-term hope.


Reply 20 - Posted by: fritzilou, 2/22/2013 8:07:58 PM     (No. 9191667)

Al Cardenas is a long time friend of Jeb Bush and he wants nothing to interfere with his desire to see Jeb the next president. I´m from the same neighborhood and know of their close personal relatioship.


Reply 21 - Posted by: ramona, 2/22/2013 8:22:29 PM     (No. 9191683)

Thank you, #21, for that little tidbit of information. The fact that there are still Republicans who are willing to put forth another Bush for the next GOP nomination is proof enough that the Establishment Elites have not got a clue. They are dancing on the deck of the Titanic, they are wet up to their knees - but they´ll still be dancing the Moderation Waltz when the water is lapping against their waists. Once it hits their chins they might start paying attention - and they will cry out (for Conservative rescue crews, no doubt). Until then, we will be kept in the closet reserved for embarrassing relatives unless we break out and form a third way. It will not be easy - but then how long can one tread water as the good ship GOP slowly sinks?
Ramona (the Pest)


Reply 22 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 2/22/2013 8:23:03 PM     (No. 9191684)

I tried to warn everybody about Mr. Reach Across the Aisle McCain and Mitt Romney who is a nice gentleman but just as I predicted, he folded up like a cheap lawn chair.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: brownshoepogue, 2/22/2013 8:25:27 PM     (No. 9191688)

If the RINOs drank conservative kool-aid and came back to and hold dearly to principled positions, then I would support and vote for them. If they are having dem aperitifs and being played like a bunch of chumps, then they, the moderates, RINOs or wafflers can start wearing whigs...nice blue powdered whigs. They won´t look anymore out of touch as they do now.


Reply 24 - Posted by: CleanhouseinDc, 2/22/2013 8:28:57 PM     (No. 9191691)

There is very little Conservative infighting. It´s fighting between Conservatives, and the Republican Party who won´t survive without a large Conservative block. Unfortunately, until Republican "centrist" (meaning center left) leadership is replaced with individuals with a spine and an understanding of conservatism, the Repubs will maintain status quo, lose some seats in the House in 2014 (how many? My RINO Congressman isn´t much different from a Democrat anyway), gain a few seats in the Senate (maybe not enough to take the Seante however.

They Repubs will have neither good will nor money by 2014.


Reply 25 - Posted by: tisHimself, 2/22/2013 11:00:32 PM     (No. 9191794)

ABB 2016.



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