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Topic: Republican sclerosis |
Republican sclerosis
New York Post, by John Podhoretz
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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/19/2013 5:30:33 AM
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| These days, Republican political professionals seem to feel rather like Mikhail Gorbachev did in 1983 when he toured farms in Canada two years before he would become premier of the Soviet Union. Stunned by how productive a certain agribusiness was, Gorbachev asked how many farmhands had brought in the crop. “None,” came the answer; the farm was entirely mechanized. From this one conversation, Gorbachev instantly understood the depths of the Soviet crisis and the desperate need for a new approach. For Republicans, the November 2012 election proved their technical inferiority in exactly the same way —
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
GreatGreyhounds, 2/19/2013 5:49:35 AM (No. 9184299)
How True! You don´t need to stuff ballot boxes to win, just controlling the computers that count the votes is enough...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Vivi, 2/19/2013 6:54:57 AM (No. 9184340)
As difficult as it is to counter the lies ABCCBSNBCCNN spew forth on behalf of Democrats during a national campaign, multiply them by a trillion online. You could almost visualize the nameless faceless paid army of tweeters, posters, texters, and even antiquated bloggers writing whatever it took.
The GOP has to explode it´s digital efforts for sure. Just a bit of advice, the Tea Party is miles ahead of you. That´s how they initially organized themselves and they´re not scared.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
clayusmcret, 2/19/2013 7:20:08 AM (No. 9184370)
The GOP´s electronic trouble won´t get better. The best computer folks are aligned with the liberals. My bet is the GOP is going to keep hiring folks who will pull another Lucy with the football, as appeared to happen for Romney. From Joel Pollak at Breitbert.com, "One culprit appears to be “Orca,” the Romney’s massive technology effort, which failed completely."
Given the number of errors across the country with Orca, Romney either let the enemy build his firewall or hired incompetents.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
OhMy, 2/19/2013 7:45:24 AM (No. 9184407)
Orca had a centralized point of failure. One system is clogged and all is lost. The whole thing was not stress tested. The first stress test was election day. This was an architecture failure!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
JAN, 2/19/2013 7:50:42 AM (No. 9184419)
And how do we overcome voter fraud?
The left has had all the years since FloriDUH to get their theft perfected.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
BarryNo, 2/19/2013 8:14:31 AM (No. 9184447)
I find myself in agreement with poster 1; the last election was won by absolute fraud. I personally think we need to act before the next election, using our Constitutional Rights to ensure an honest result.
I don´t buy Rush´s theory that the ´Low Information Voter´ won it for Obama. I´ve talked to these people. Many were unaware there was an election.
But I bet someone voted for them.
Clear the roles of dead and duplicate voters, and of felons. Indelible ink on a stamp to be placed where it is visible. And only allow Military the right to absentee ballots. The idea is not to make voting easier, but to make fraud less do-able.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Red Jeep, 2/19/2013 8:35:42 AM (No. 9184483)
Purple thumbs.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Pros7767, 2/19/2013 8:36:42 AM (No. 9184485)
Voter ID laws in every stat will minimize the problem.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Freeloader, 2/19/2013 8:46:46 AM (No. 9184495)
The philosophy of The Dark Side is, and always has been..."Without God, All Things Are Permitted."
Dealing with these godless, leftist, lowlife hoodlums, will require an outstanding future GOP leadership combination, as in the days of Eliot Ness confronting the likes of an Alphonse Capone, Jake "Greasy Thumb" Guzik and Frank Nitti on the mean streets of Chi-Town, with the intellectual brilliance of a Rhodes Scholar like Governor Bobby Jindal and the "rocks" of a Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Dragonslayer2, 2/19/2013 8:53:38 AM (No. 9184511)
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Felixcat, 2/19/2013 9:14:19 AM (No. 9184548)
Goodbye Rove and Reince?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
MissMolly, 2/19/2013 9:37:38 AM (No. 9184584)
But that´s part of the problem, #13, the zeal for ridding the party of those we don´t like without considering we may need some of those names and that our likes and dislikes might not be shared by all.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
TakeBackAmerica, 2/19/2013 10:00:02 AM (No. 9184631)
Right #2: A friend worked at the Pinellas County polls and said voter fraud was rampant.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Avogadra, 2/19/2013 10:00:09 AM (No. 9184632)
After the debacle of the 2012 election, I have given up on the Republicans completely. I don´t think they wanted to win the Presidency or the Senate. All they wanted was a chunk of the campaign contributions.
I´ve given up on Rush and FOX. Until a real leader shows up, we are just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
coldoc, 2/19/2013 10:09:02 AM (No. 9184648)
There is no responsibility or respect for the law by liberals. (Lets see if the black poll worker who claims to have voted six times gets any punishment.) Unless fraudulent voters and lying politicians and their media protectors are held to account, what the republicans do is not important. They really do suck at communicating and adhering to any principles though.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
trapper, 2/19/2013 10:14:06 AM (No. 9184665)
This is a dangerous article. Even though it is true, it is an invitation to another disaster because it was NOT a failure of tech that lost Romney the election. The Republicans can dominate tech and will still be left shaking their heads wondering what happened if they do not establish a ground game that addresses current reality.
By that I mean carrying on a relentless, daily, neverending program to identify and eliminate all the illegal democrat voter registrations, and to recruit and deliver to EVERY polling place republican election judges to challenge repeat democrat voters such as those who vote both early and on election day. That is not all tech. It requires boots on the ground just like the illegal registrations themselves were generated by boots on the ground.
The democrats took the Chicago model and spread it nationwide. In states like Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, and others with huge minority-dominated cities the Chicago model works brilliantly. Between illegal registrations, failing to purge voter rolls of the deceased and the incarcerated, early and voting day duplicate voting, registering every nursing home patient and providing them an early ballot, and so dominating the polling places that republican judges are overwhelmed or absent and completely unable to stop people from voting multiple times, we are now the United States of Chicago. That´s not tech. And it is difficult to point to as vote stealing because it is comprised of millions of little frauds rather than one big headline generating event.
The Chicago cancer has metastasized. It is now beyond surgery. Republican boots on the ground are the chemo.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
mc squared, 2/19/2013 10:21:07 AM (No. 9184677)
Wifey & I are leaving the GOP. They are afflicted with a colossal inability to deal with the lawlessness of the administration and widespread vote fraud. (I know, it doesn´t exist!)
They control 1/2 of the legislative body of the USA for criminy´s sake; why can´t they stand up and say No More? They´re content to collect their fat checks and pensions and whine that they can´t win with conservatism and we have to lighten up.
We have a de-facto one party system now.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
StormCnter, 2/19/2013 12:11:00 PM (No. 9184940)
Several things have combined to dishearten us on the GOP side. First, for those of you who were unhappy with Romney as the candidate, which of the wide primary field do you think would have done better? I´m not at all sure anyone could have defeated Obama in 2012. I had hopes for 2008, but our ticket was a mess. It´s just not true that the "establishment" or the "elites" or Karl Rove or the media selected Mitt Romney. Remember the early days? We had..what..nine candidates? They presented just about as wide a variety of experience, positions, personalities, skills as any party could hope for. We had plenty to choose from. Did you send money, put out campaign signs, rally for your choice? Another factor is, of course, the early primaries who really do get to choose the candidate because winners have the vaunted momentum and the losers´ money and support dry up. I wish we could set up a primary system in sections of the country. Every state in this section votes on this day, every state in that section on another. Or even all the primaries on the same day. There must be a better way.
But, we no longer have the luxury of yearning for the might-have-been. If there is a person you like and think should be a 2014 or 2016 candidate, get started early. See what you can do to help that person. Do not forget your state and local races. This is where the good candidates of the future will come from. Get involved.
If you are, or have already left the party, good bye and good luck. The rest of us will see what we can do to improve things where we are.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
tomanderson61, 2/19/2013 12:32:38 PM (No. 9184987)
STOP STOP STOP with this "we were beat because Democrats had better technology".
That´s just an excuse.
We had a dream team, a guy in Romney that knows how to get things done and a guy in Ryan who was a brilliant numbers guy. Romney clearly won the first debate, and was on equal footing for the rest. The ENTIRE WORLD saw what an empty suit Obama was, and you know what, for most of the people in this country, that was just fine. Gimme my money.
The stupid, idol-cheering, reality TV show, "he speaks so well" crowd of lazy takers now outnumber the providers. Add in the minorities who think the Democrats give them a better shake for amnesty, and 98% of the black vote, and you have 60%+ of the country.
And that is not going to change. We all hoped for the "swing vote", and guess what, they "swung" the other way.
You can complain about the "fractured GOP". You can complain that "we didn´t have enough boots on the ground". You can complain and threaten that "you are leaving the GOP", which is laughable--who are you going to join, the Green Party???!!!!
But the inescapable truth is we have a dumbed-down, wimpy, gimme society thanks to welfare, liberal teachings, and a breakdown of the family unit.
When will there be change?
When the money runs out.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
IdahoSky, 2/19/2013 1:01:15 PM (No. 9185041)
Bravo, #20 and #21. You have summed up the situation perfectly.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
dman, 2/19/2013 1:57:34 PM (No. 9185157)
I agree, #22: #20 and #21 summed up the situation perfectly -
but not the way you think.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
4Justice, 2/19/2013 2:54:15 PM (No. 9185261)
I totally agree with #20, but I also think we do need more boots on the ground. We don´t get involved like the left does. We need to get Voter ID laws passed and enforced. We need to ensure our military is allowed to vote. We need to prosecute voter fraud to the greatest degree possible. We need to ensure that voting machines are not manipulated (if anything they should be eliminated). We need to reform the absentee ballot system--it should only be allowed for truly disabled or dire situations. Everyone else should be required to vote in person. Only competent people should be allowed to vote (not people who are in mental institutions or have been declared having dementia) and even then only should be accompanied by a family member or legal guardian/conservator.
And most importantly, we need to change how we do Primaries!! All primaries should be done on the same day (or in regional groups like another poster mentioned). We should not have them all spread out so the same states end up choosing our candidates for us. Their results always influence the rest of the country when they shouldn´t.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
roger h. cook,MD, 2/19/2013 3:19:01 PM (No. 9185297)
The democrats proved it ,ie if you control the computers you control the vote,simple.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
dmjr, 2/19/2013 3:37:50 PM (No. 9185322)
It´s getting close to the red states divorcing itself from the U.S. for the sake of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
It´s no longer "United we stand; divided we fall." It´s now "United we all fall; divided we stand a chance of standing."
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 2/19/2013 9:14:23 PM (No. 9185789)
Do we understand the progressive way and its many weakenesses yet?
Do we understand how to neutralize the msm yet?
What is our anti-progressive 100-year plan for the short-term and the long-term?
Do we understand what it takes to win yet?
Are we willing to be on the same page yet?
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