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But Don´t Rule Out Malice
American Thinker, by Ryan Scott Welch

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 2/17/2013 10:33:39 AM

There is an adage that reads "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity... but don´t rule out malice." This is known as Heinlein´s or Hanlon´s Razor (there is only a slight difference between the two). Unfortunately many people only go by the first part of Heinlein´s Razor, leaving out the "but don´t rule out malice" part. People using this heuristic decision-making shortcut often think that even though some things that people do seem very suspect, and even though mental red flags are going up and instinctive alarms are sounding


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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/17/2013 10:42:22 AM     (No. 9181442)

Should be a Must Read. But it requires reading the whole thing. The last paragraph really sums it up and describes someone we have come to know well. Him and Alinsky, who preached that gradual change would not work. A total teardown of our institutions had to be achieved first so that revolution could take place.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bpl40, 2/17/2013 10:47:15 AM     (No. 9181457)

There is malice and then there is sheer evil. That´s the road we have progressed on from 2008 to 2012. Malice was obvious from 2008, but effort was made to cover or mask evil. Now that pretense is being dropped. What 2016 will bring, god only knows.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Alpha91c, 2/17/2013 10:49:18 AM     (No. 9181464)

With the bunch we have in the WH and many in congress, malice would be my first thought.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: RancherJack, 2/17/2013 10:51:20 AM     (No. 9181475)

Odd comment #4

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 2/17/2013 10:54:10 AM     (No. 9181479)

Leftists prey upon the patience and fairness of conservatives. Add in the fear of being labeled as a racist and the leftists get a free pass on everything.


It´s worth noting that those on the left attribute all conservative ideas to malice without bothering to even consider their merits.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: guybee, 2/17/2013 11:21:39 AM     (No. 9181525)

Having and pursuing an ideological agenda is neither malice nor evil. It very well could be stupidity.

Pursuing an ideological agenda against the will of the people, using every means and effort to manipulate, lie and coerce certainly is evil.

The Dim agenda is simple. We know what is best and you will like it. We will stop at nothing to achieve it. The GOP agenda is to try and stop the Dims without stooping to their level of malevolence and malfeasance.

A noble objective if the voters vote. The problem in America is that many of the people who can stop this nonsense are sitting on the sidelines because the solutions are not perfect. Good is NOT the enemy of perfect.

If and until the majority of Americans who disagree with the evil and malice of the Dims do not step forward and vote - this will continue until there is no way to change it.

All who can see what is going on needs to be recruiting others to the cause. Otherwise, the end result is inevitable.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/17/2013 11:29:05 AM     (No. 9181534)

From an article on Obama, the Democrats and Alinsky that was published in May, 2008:

In the Alinsky model, “organizing” is a euphemism for “revolution”—a wholesale revolution whose ultimate objective is the systematic acquisition of power by a purportedly oppressed segment of the population, and the radical transformation of America’s social and economic structure. The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted—a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation. Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quo’s complete collapse—to be followed by the erection of an entirely new and different system upon its ruins. Toward that end, they will be apt to follow the lead of charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision, and who profess to clearly understand what types of societal “changes” are needed.


Revolution. "The status-quo´s complete collapse. "Charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision". Sound familiar?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: planetgeo, 2/17/2013 11:34:04 AM     (No. 9181543)

Here, let me make it utterly simple by posing "Planetgeo´s Razor": If the decision was made by a leftist/progressive, it is by definition with malice and with the intent to weaken and diminish the United States and those who strive to enrich and strengthen it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: shrugger, 2/17/2013 11:53:52 AM     (No. 9181573)

NO 4....I´m sure that I am senior to you.
I have the time to read it again....and will.
I would ask everyone to read this.

Read it again, and read it for the third time.
Please try to understand the warning that has come.... but maybe too late.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: killerbee, 2/17/2013 12:04:15 PM     (No. 9181590)

Near the end of the article when he talks about women being able to serve in all areas of the military, he uses the term "required". Is this a fact? It´s now "required"? Because I was under the impression that these areas were now simply "open" whereas women had previously been barred from those roles.

My thought has always been that women should be able to serve in any capacity they can qualify for. I know the social aspects are a challenge and I understand that. But if someone can physically do the job and has the temerity to tackle it, I call that person an asset to be used in the cause.

Considering neither males nor females are safe from rapists and torturers within our current enemy corps, even that has been equalized.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Raristotle, 2/17/2013 12:39:51 PM     (No. 9181638)

The dangerous part of this adage is that, to the Left, what they´re doing is not malicious. On the contrary--they believe what they´re doing is for our own good. Of course, they will couch their language in good-feeling platitudes (e.g. "we need to ban assault weapons for the sake of our children", "who doesn´t want to save our environment", "there´s a scientific consensus", "we need to protect our mothers´ and daughters´ health", etc.) They also understand that if they came out and said precisely what they are for (e.g. higher taxes for all, abortion-on-demand, the banning of all firearms, etc.), no one would purchase what they´re selling. So they have to lie. Their lies are intentional, and to us, they are malicious. But to the Left, their lies are for our own good.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Scottyboy, 2/17/2013 12:54:35 PM     (No. 9181654)

Traditional American values based on capitalism and Judeo Christian principles have done more to improve the state of man than any other system EVER.
Communism / Socialism / Marxism, or whatever you want to call it is inherently EVIL.
This was common knowledge 50 years ago.
The left is simply doing the work of the devil.
Nothing more, nothing less.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: udanja99, 2/17/2013 1:01:03 PM     (No. 9181664)

For the leftists who are in power, I don´t believe that they believe they are doing anything for the good of anyone but themselves. For them, it´s all about power and control and who cares about the consequences.

As to tearing down our institutions, as of now most of those institutions are overrun with leftist power mongers. Maybe the revolution that the left anticipates will not be what actually happens. It´s long past time for them to reap the whirlwind.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: pete moss, 2/17/2013 1:09:54 PM     (No. 9181674)

Obama and all of these progressives are nothing more than thinly disguised communists and they hate the USA. They are working to destroy our country, and they will if we allow it to happen.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Country Boy, 2/17/2013 1:21:20 PM     (No. 9181689)

At the intersection of

1) Community Reinvestment Act
2) lunacy at the FED
3) lending mandates from Andrew Cuomo´s HUD
4) really bad legislation in Sarbanes Oxley (mandatory Mark-to-Market provisions)

The banking meltdown of 2008 certainly looks like it was engineered in Washington. Just way to many coincidences to be bad luck.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Butch59, 2/17/2013 1:41:54 PM     (No. 9181718)

I think that I would have to agree with the author. There is just far too much happening in this country to attribute it to bad luck or stupidity. It has to be planned. And the major problem is, that the siren song of marxism, socialism, or whatever ism you chose to call it, is very appealing to those on the low rungs of the socio-economic ladder. They all want the government to take care of them at the expense of "the rich". And they don´t have any knowledge of the horrendous failures of all of these isms throught history. And yet the will vote for them every time.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: curious1, 2/17/2013 1:54:38 PM     (No. 9181736)

Ans as I have said for many decades, only a simpleton thinks libtards are anything but evil incarnate, no matter how prettily they package the proposal.

Why? They mean to take free will from mankind.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 2/17/2013 2:08:10 PM     (No. 9181750)

The beauty of the article is that the reader is making a mental list of all the demonstrations of malice that have been witnessed in the last 6 years. Then the choice of women being required to be represented in all combat roles is such a perfect example because there has been zero grass roots agitation for this. An earlier example in exactly the same vein is bringing back the draft. I think of these folks as ´fellow travelers´ associate them in my mind with the walking dude from Stephen King´s The Stand.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 2/17/2013 2:54:01 PM     (No. 9181794)

Every past attempt to make this communistic ideology work was beneficial only to the very top tier, until the whole thing grew so top heavy it collapsed. Sad to say, it was the millions who lost their liberty, possessions and lives who paid the price.
But in the case of America, it is becoming clearer that those pushing us over this cliff will also pay an awful price, as there are puppet masters behind the curtain, on the world stage who will throw the complicit in with the downtrodden.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 2/17/2013 3:58:24 PM     (No. 9181875)

The standard-bearer of the movement hell-bent on taking over everything we Americans have held dear for well over two centuries is His Glib Nibs, BHO. Over the past four years, it’s become frighteningly obvious that what they worship more than anything at all is power. Power at ANY cost! Nothing trumps it. They will do anything to achieve it and likewise to retain it. Furthermore, they count on a broad cross-section of our citizenry to be and remain ignorant of what is taking place in what is still our nation. That the preponderance of our media is in lockstep with them renders a no-contest outcome virtually assured. When was the last time we heard “journalists” assertively query, and follow-up with more queries, Obama or his cohorts as to the purpose of the purchase of a billion or more bullets? Are there that many skeet flying around loose? Beware! Malice in Blunderland is running rampant!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: get er done, 2/17/2013 5:17:12 PM     (No. 9181959)

Was 0´s decision to retire for the evening that the Benghazi attacks were occurring malicious, stupid or both? I doubt that there was an absence of malice. After all, it was just four more white guys dying, as many more had already done in Afghanistan. Even the Navy SEAL who killed Bin Laden and has a list of service related disablities has been hung out to dry.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: shrugger, 2/17/2013 7:00:02 PM     (No. 9182085)

Where´s the FIRST no. 4?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Tianne, 2/17/2013 7:04:58 PM     (No. 9182086)

Excellent and stunning article - an article that leads the reader step by step to a logical and alarming conclusion - an article to be saved and pondered again and again. Thank you for making it a ´Must Read´.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: uno, 2/17/2013 7:48:44 PM     (No. 9182122)

After four years of "ineptness", "inexperience", "mistakes", " mis-statements", "incompetence", "naivety", etc....people should come to the realization that the odds of such a pattern are not random happenstance. It is by design.
Either that or the Obamboozler is the most unlucky person in the Universe!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 2/17/2013 8:12:23 PM     (No. 9182142)

Odd comment #4.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lavalette, 2/17/2013 9:19:46 PM     (No. 9182189)

#10. You are quite wrong. The confusion of gender roles in society is part of the malicious and destructive revolutionary movement the author is describing.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: saryden, 2/17/2013 9:20:51 PM     (No. 9182191)

Many people seem to agree that Ozero is a Socialist or a Marxist communist.
Consider that he is only using that ideology to further his real agenda .. Islamization of the U.S.A.
With his assistance, the Muslim Brotherhood has made great strides in the world; and the number of mosques in our country has doubled during his first term.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 2/17/2013 9:37:53 PM     (No. 9182201)

U don´t have to convince how do we convince the unconvinced?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 2/18/2013 12:01:45 AM     (No. 9182305)

As soon as you can afford an assault rifle with a telescopic sight....buy one. And when ammunition again becomes available (and it will), buy a lot.

When the time comes, the regular army will not obey orders like: "Attack Peoria." Stinky the Gunrunner´s in-house militias in FBI, HS, etc., will be overwhelmed by a heavily armed citizenry.

Vote tea party in the primaries; Republican in the regular election; get ready to fight.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: MickTurn, 2/18/2013 6:49:09 AM     (No. 9182441)

Malice? Oh, we´re talking about Obie!

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