U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania Patrick Toomey; has served as a president of Club for Growth, defeated Arlen Specter who was supported by Bush/Rove et al. in the ´closed´ PA Republican primary; A Conservative in a Democrat leaning state. Plenty of ammo left for Barbour.

OP, the anti-Rove group as you like to call it has plenty of ammo left for Barbour and whoever else you bring to the dance selling principal and values down for political expedience.

What you and the pro-Rove group do not understand is that when a person fights for what they believe in they have nothing to lose. You pro-Rove acolytes also will never beat the democrats at their own game (pandering, manipulating, lying, cheating, stealing...) so there is a good chance the republic as we know it will die as the race to despotism accelerates. Mark my words - when it does die, and I´m afraid to say it will - is the anti-Rove group will die standing on their feet heads held high while the pro-Rove group die on its knees begging for more relevance.

We´ll see.

I think I´m getting old. When I first read the caption, I wondered why a barber would be angry with a company that promises to restore hair for old farts like me. I´m going to have to focus and read more carefully.

This should not be about egos or personalities. It should be about the party principles. It is hard to take the alleged "conservatives" seriously when their boy Rubio is pushing amnesty with Chuck Schumer.

Barbour forgets that "centrists" Romney, Thompson, Scott and Allen also lost.

It amazes me that these establishment Republicans conveniently forget when their candidates lose, but NEVER forget when the conservative loses, and every loss is the conservatives´ fault.

That´s the argument, #5. Being a conservative encompasses different things for different people. If I like what Rubio is saying about Hispanics and immigration reform that doesn´t mean I am not a conservative. Securing the borders is a traditional constitutionally conservative issue, is it not?

You cannot spell Ripon without the letters R,I,N, and O.

these old dinosaurs in the republican party need to move on and retire. They have failed spectacularly and need to understand that

Howe do you know the "pure" conservatives--however you to define pure--won´t disappoint you once they get into office? I recall that not too long ago Rubio was revered by posters here. He had, and still has, the backing of the tea party, or at least the Tea Party Express. (And that´s another issue--which Tea Party is the REAL Tea Party? They´re all claiming that distinction.) Now Rubio is the Devil Incarnate, a RINO, a tool of big money, a minion of the establishment, and whatever other slurs you care to cast at him.

Dang, have to move Haley into the ´Never more´ column.

I guess that could be considered clever, #8, but what´s not to like about the Ripon Society? How have they offended you?

I´d love to give all GOP candidates the Dr Benjamin Carter test on taxation, education, healthcare and freedom of speech. If you are not for healthcare savings accounts, competitive marketplace for insurance policies chosen by the individual, proportional taxation, a free market for education, and free and public debate of policy options, you might just be a RINO. If there is a more conservative candidate running, he or she will get my vote.

Please, let´s not be disingenuous. The amnesty that Rubio and the others in the gang of eight are working on, will essentially provide amnesty to all illegals on the very first day that it is enacted.

It´s easy to talk about securing the borders when they are not secured. It´s easy to sneak amnesty by unknowing citizens. We know the drill.