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Fox Conservative Guest Slams Dr.
Ben Carson For ‘Inappropriate’
Political Speech At Prayer Breakfast

Mediaite, by Noah Rothman

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/11/2013 3:29:45 PM

On Monday, a panel on Fox News Channel debated the appropriateness of a speech delivered at last week’s National Prayer Breakfast by Dr. Benjamin Carson in which he advocated conservative reforms at a venue attended by President Barack Obama. Conservative guest Cal Thomas broke with many on the right when he said that it was not appropriate for Carson to advance conservative policy arguments at what is supposed to be an apolitical event. (Snip) Jon Scott asked Thomas and Fox News Contributor Alan Colmes about the reaction by CNN Anchor Candy Crowley to Carson’s speech when she

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First of all he didn´t "slam" him. He said it was inappropriate, which I don´t agree with at all. What he said was perfectly appropriate for that venue. Thomas sounds like Bob Beckel and Dana Perino. Good. Grief.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: woodsman, 2/11/2013 3:38:02 PM     (No. 9170615)

Unlike of course the appropriateness of Obama inviting the Supreme Court Justices to the SOU address and then slamming the bench´s decisions?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Wilko, 2/11/2013 3:38:32 PM     (No. 9170616)

What was said cannot be un-said. It´s got a lot of panties in a wad, and too bad. All this hindsight tumult isn´t worth a pile of spit.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Keekng, 2/11/2013 3:39:06 PM     (No. 9170619)

It was appropriate for Dr Carson to comment on obama´s inappropriate behavior toward American citizens.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: wsdiego, 2/11/2013 3:40:07 PM     (No. 9170620)

I wonder if they think it was appropriate for BO to be texting during the Prayer Breakfast?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/11/2013 3:40:34 PM     (No. 9170623)

I´m inclined to agree with Mr. Thomas, although, as #2 appropriately points our, Dear Leader does not deserve any better.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley, 2/11/2013 3:45:13 PM     (No. 9170632)

Making the Moslem Marxist squirm is completely appropriate.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bobgray2, 2/11/2013 3:45:53 PM     (No. 9170636)

I would agree, except that there is no such thing as an apolitical event attended by Barack 0bama. Everywhere he goes, every time he opens his mouth whether to speak or eat, he or one of his flunkeys is going to try pushing his socialist agenda.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/11/2013 3:47:33 PM     (No. 9170639)

Dr. Carson is not a member of the Clergy, is not a politician. He IS a private citizen.
Just WHEN has the citizen had someone who speaks for them?
Seize the moment. His speech was excellent, the right time, the right place, and the right message.
Thank YOU Dr. Carson.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 2/11/2013 3:47:42 PM     (No. 9170641)

Wow. Cal Thomas is still alive? Haven´t read any of his stuff for years. Looks like he is another who has gone ´round the bend.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: pc1eszm, 2/11/2013 3:50:10 PM     (No. 9170648)

If Dr. Carson had choen a more "appropriate" venue for his remarks we wouldn´t be talking about it because no one would´ve heard about it. We conservatives need to take advantage of the opportunity for our views to be heard by the masses when the opportunity presents itself.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Keekng, 2/11/2013 3:50:28 PM     (No. 9170651)

Thomas and Colmes......Bevis and Butthead.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: fritzilou, 2/11/2013 3:52:30 PM     (No. 9170658)

DR. CARSON chose the perfect environment to make his points. First of all, where would he have had a venue that would have gotten this kind of attention? No where but somewhere that the president was in attendance. He feels as pationately as I do about the direction in which this country is heading and wanted to give notice to those who are unaware. He has done all Americans a service, including Cal Thomas and Bob Beckel. They too are going to suffer the consequences of Obama´s disasterous admiinistration. And, thank God a black man had the timerity to tell the truth to the first black president.. No one else could get away with it but a man of color and of superior personal accomplishment.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Teejaw, 2/11/2013 4:00:59 PM     (No. 9170673)

Cal Thomas hails from a time when some things were political and some were not. He may not have noticed that liberals changed all that about 20 years ago. Now everything is political.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jerseyden, 2/11/2013 4:01:39 PM     (No. 9170675)

Cal Thomas made a mistake this time. The Obama msm doesn´t let any dissent to be reported. If Dr. Carson needed this platform to make his point of view known then he had to do it that way. I also don´t think Obama as a person deserves any respect, but the office does.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bevan, 2/11/2013 4:10:15 PM     (No. 9170696)

Obama appearing at a "Prayer Breakfast" is inappropriate

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 2/11/2013 4:16:46 PM     (No. 9170705)


It is very apparent that Obama and the Dems know how to throw a punch...and our Republican side only knows how to threaten to give them a severe and stern look.

Such a stern look.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: JAN, 2/11/2013 4:17:56 PM     (No. 9170707)

Fair and unbalanced.

Did the moron trash Mother Theresa for her pro life comments to billandhill.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 2/11/2013 4:17:57 PM     (No. 9170708)

I wouldn´t know Cal Thomas if I tripped over him. He´s a pundit?

He was wrong. And he purported to be an "expert" on the Prayer Breakfast, but he clearly didn´t read about its founding and its intent. There´s a good long citation at Wikipedia on the Prayer Breakfast, which is actually just a part of a several day gathering.



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Reply 19 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 2/11/2013 4:25:14 PM     (No. 9170718)

Excuse second post. I have gone and read about Cal Thomas, the self-styled Arbiter of Appropriateness and I say Phooey!

It is the wimpy, namby-pambys like Thomas who have gotten us in the mess where we are.

Ben Carson for President.

(Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Cal!)

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 2/11/2013 4:28:09 PM     (No. 9170726)

What Cal and the punk in the White House forget, it that said punk works for Dr. Carson, and for the rest us.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: dman, 2/11/2013 4:31:13 PM     (No. 9170729)

Cal is wrong on this one: there are no more "apolitical" events anymore. None. Nada. Everything these days is political.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JoniTx, 2/11/2013 4:37:04 PM     (No. 9170735)

VERY disappointed in Cal Thomas. As usual, the right side always seems to have way too many who cave.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: AntiStatist, 2/11/2013 4:42:47 PM     (No. 9170755)

Where else would the opportunity to offer to Obama another viewpoint arise? Obama isn´t exactly solicitous of views outside his statist/socialist comfort zone.

Dr. Carson provided Obama with a lot of common-sense wisdom in his 27 minute speech, but I doubt it will sink in. Obama had rather operate with the false knowledge which sounds good to the low-info crowd but is the wisdom of fools in practice.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: 4Justice, 2/11/2013 4:43:35 PM     (No. 9170757)

Cow Thomas thinks it is 1950 still...

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Emerson, 2/11/2013 4:53:08 PM     (No. 9170776)

Here´s that Wikipedia citation. Have a read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Prayer_Breakfast

Dr. Carson on Cavuto just now (paraphrased from memory):

"What do you need for health care? You need a patient and you need a doctor. Then along comes a middleman, supposedly to facilitate the relationship, and it has become this mammoth creature that controls everything."

He said that he will retire from surgery in June. Continue to teach, but no longer perform surgery. Hmmm.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: oh-heck, 2/11/2013 4:53:30 PM     (No. 9170778)

Excuse me, but a prayer breakfast is exactly the time to point out the God many of us believe in did suggest proportionality as fair way to return some of our blessings. I also think that his points on our responsibility to educate ourselves as our own personal path to God´s freedom and his reference to prohibition against teaching slaves to read were excellent for the occasion. As were his comments on political correctness interfering with our freedom and growth as a society.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Emerson, 2/11/2013 4:54:46 PM     (No. 9170784)

Carson finished off his visit with Cavuto with a repeat of his comment from the speech that we are have become underinformed and rely on the media pundits to tell us what to think.

That must have hit a nerve with good ol´ Cal.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Pinons, 2/11/2013 4:56:13 PM     (No. 9170787)

Thank you Dr. Carson. At least someone had the b***s to tell Obozo to his face that the deficit was killing America.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/11/2013 5:20:06 PM     (No. 9170831)

#25 has it right. The great pretender, kenyan klown, president, almost never is in a venue where he is challenged about anything, (and that includes white house press conferences) so Dr. Gibson had to get his points across at the prayer breakfast.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: fayebeck, 2/11/2013 5:33:34 PM     (No. 9170842)

Perhaps it´s time for Cal and Beckel to write another book on civility. Hey Cal!! Beckel doesn´t believe in civility so why do you?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: DocH, 2/11/2013 5:35:01 PM     (No. 9170847)

The point is, is faith supposed to inform all of life or just the parts that take place inside a church? When priests and pastors supported civil rights, that didn´t violate so-called "separation of church and state," did it? Thomas (who was a strong supporter and member of the board of the prayer breakfast) has always had a strict view of this issue, I think because he feels liberals violate it all the time. He is right about them crossing the line, but he is wrong about where the line should be drawn. Faith illuminates how we should live, and that includes politics. We don´t need Christian ministers in politics, to be sure, but we most certainly do need outspoken Christian citizens and politicians.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: uno, 2/11/2013 5:35:59 PM     (No. 9170852)

Cal...
Nuts!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 2/11/2013 6:12:06 PM     (No. 9170926)

#8, truer words were never spoken. There is no event that Obama does not treat as a political event.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 2/11/2013 7:53:08 PM     (No. 9171051)

Cal, I’ve been an avid fan of yours for several years. Please re-think your point of view on this issue. Part of your appeal is that ‘prissy’ is not your usual modus operandi. Why change it now? Why change it ever?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: clizbe1, 2/11/2013 7:56:28 PM     (No. 9171054)

Brother Cal (Wasington drone) Religion and politics have become intertwined Thanks to our atheist government they have FORCED the issue. The Constitution has been trashed and we have created a Banana Republic. Only God can save us now.Need to read ON Bullshit) by Dr Harry Frankfurt Princeton University Department of Philosophy emeritus

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Reply 36 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 2/11/2013 8:04:22 PM     (No. 9171057)

#11 has it right, we would not know about this if it happened elsewhere. How many televised events let a conservative speak in front of the Poseur? When you see an opportunity, grab it! And he does treat every event as a political event. Tomorrow night he will exploit a girl´s death to try to take away our 2nd Amendment rights. Pathetic.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/11/2013 8:09:34 PM     (No. 9171061)

Cal who? oh, i thought he retired 10 years ago. might be best if he does soon

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Reply 38 - Posted by: lil dotty, 2/11/2013 9:25:29 PM     (No. 9171123)

apolitical event, my eye! No event with oh dark won is an apolitical event. Cal, shame on you. For years you were the top dog on my least of conservative men I´d like to meet. These words spoken by you are like a fatal wound to the heart. Someone had to say it...the truths Dr. Carson shared. Too bad that someone was someone else and not you. Another fallen ´idol´



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Reply 39 - Posted by: Hermoine, 2/11/2013 9:31:14 PM     (No. 9171127)

Cal Thomas is a self-righteous grumpy old man.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: earlybird, 2/11/2013 11:05:37 PM     (No. 9171228)

Re #42, you left out pompous. And preachy. We saw his star turn on Fox today. Not pretty.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: philemon1967, 2/12/2013 2:47:00 AM     (No. 9171332)

What rubbish about political talk! Ben Carson is acting as a Nathan the prophet to Obama´s King David, warning him about Obama´s prideful sin of pushing a hasty, poorly planned socialized medicine scheme to the detriment of everyone for the sake of his "legacy". In his devotion to the false gods of Humanism & Socialism, Obama rules capriciously & foolishly, hurting many people along the way.

Now, Obama has no excuse for when he meets his Maker. This speech was appropriate because this was one venue Obama had no opportunity to avoid listening to the unvarnished truth that his handlers like ValJar usually keep from him.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: BcdErick, 2/12/2013 2:03:01 PM     (No. 9172442)

Good post. And this is a great thread. It made me smile. Thanks.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Yo Yo, 2/13/2013 12:48:44 AM     (No. 9173455)

I read Thomas´ article, and he somehow came to the conclusion that Carson´s points would have been just as effective if delivered in some other venue. They would not. His words begged to be heard, and his remarks worked best because they were delivered face to face. No cowardice. Obama has done far less appropriate, less civil put downs of invited guests. Thomas also seems to argue that he might not come back to the prayer breakfast next year because of this treatment. If that be the case, we´re all a lot better off.


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