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NRA: Why ´universal´
checks won´t work

USA Today, by Wayne LaPierre

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Posted By:afortiori, 2/10/2013 6:28:20 PM

It seems so reasonable. In the minds of many, "universal background checks" for firearms transactions sounds like a good idea. But is it really? No. No idea is good if it doesn´t work. No legislation is reasonable if it fails to accomplish its purported goal — to prevent violent criminals and the mentally ill from acquiring firearms. Criminals won´t participate in a "universal" system. They´ll always steal or get their guns, and everything else they want, on the black market. Reasonable people know that criminals will never be part of the "universe."

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But Wayne??? Don´t you understand? In a liberal´s mind, if something doesn´t work, that just means you have to do more of it!!!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 2/10/2013 7:00:24 PM     (No. 9169243)

Will it work? Not likely. It is pretty much unenforceable, unless you want to divert scarce resources and have BATFE agents conducting stings to snare a few mostly law abiding citizens who decide they don´t want to be bothered with yet another layer of bureaucratic hassle in their lives. Effect on crime rates will essentially be zero. Criminals will still get their guns.

The gun grabbers know this. This is just another incremental step to the ultimate goal of a total ban and confiscation. When this doesn´t work it will on to the next "common sense" level.

The libs make such a big deal out of the
"gun show loophole" which is just private citizens engaging in legal commerce. Few criminals get their guns this way, despite what the bed-wetters think.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 2/10/2013 7:02:10 PM     (No. 9169245)

The expression "slippery slope" is a cliche. Liberals love to use it to dismiss 2nd Amemdment advocates as paranoid. Second Amendment advocates don´t trust big government and have legitamate concerns about the incremental confiscation of individual liberties. Democrats don´t care about safety. Their objective is control. Universal registeati

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Reply 3 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 2/10/2013 7:05:04 PM     (No. 9169247)

Sorry. Universal registration always precedes confiscation. Oh, darn it . My paranoia is way out of control.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bluefindad, 2/10/2013 7:06:57 PM     (No. 9169250)

Mexico has gone much, much further - an average, law-abiding citizen cannot own a gun. Period.

Please tell me - how has that worked to reduce the number of citizens gunned down annually in Mexico?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: flatwater, 2/10/2013 7:07:02 PM     (No. 9169251)

Why don´t we have "universal background checks" for voter registration?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Justavoter, 2/10/2013 7:07:02 PM     (No. 9169252)

The minute universal background checks start is the minute burglaries skyrocket.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Captain Howdy, 2/10/2013 7:10:20 PM     (No. 9169254)

Although I am against universal background checks and I´d like to see the imaginary 40% number rebutted, do you think they would go for a system that was absolutely free of charge, no serial numbers or type or number of weapons involved, just a yes or no to whether a sale was allowed? Just a "proceed" or "deny" that would be appealable if you were denied?
Just a common sense, reasonable background check? I´m sure it wouldn´t fly without the database aspect.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: kane toad, 2/10/2013 7:14:32 PM     (No. 9169256)

#6, like the voter registration background checks!
Rabbit, it sounds like you are on the wrong site. A little more respect for Mr Lapierre please.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: southernboy, 2/10/2013 7:16:39 PM     (No. 9169258)

#1 So you acknowledge that ‘bad guys’ will circumvent the system, the ´mentally ill’ may not be on the ‘do not sell’ list…but you think the so-called ‘loop-hole’ should be closed anyway.
It’s just another way for the government to log the ownership of weapons. (It’s called ‘registration.’ The first step toward confiscation.) Once this ‘loophole’ is closed,(surprise!) registration will require model and S/N, name and address of the seller and the buyer. Once the owner and location of the weapon is known it’s a simple task to require it to be turned in.

The truth is the government never will be able to control private sales of guns between individuals, no matter how many laws it passes. And the politicians with a lick of sense know it.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 2/10/2013 7:30:52 PM     (No. 9169277)

You will be needing a lathe and a mill and internet access.

Why buy guns when you can build them ?

Why buy ammo ?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Bpl40, 2/10/2013 7:33:36 PM     (No. 9169280)

This regime has no power to disarm the criminals. So they want to use the coercive power of the State to disarm their victims? Wonderful!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 2/10/2013 7:42:22 PM     (No. 9169289)

#4 nailed it. The first thing I thought when this subject was even brought up days or weeks ago, whenever that was.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: texaspast, 2/10/2013 7:47:19 PM     (No. 9169295)

Background check without telling what kind of gun is being purchased, that would be better. The whole point is to be able to track every gun in every hand so that when time comes to take them all, they know where to go. And BTW - rabbit is one of those 35,000 ´operatives´ OFA has been lining up.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 2/10/2013 7:49:13 PM     (No. 9169296)

As reported on the Michael Brown show on KOAA (850 AM, Denver), he has been waiting three weeks now for a background check to be completed.

Gov ChickenPooper now want´s to charge for background checks.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: flatwater, 2/10/2013 8:01:26 PM     (No. 9169304)

#1,

Whatever the White House is paying you to troll here, it´s way too much.

Please go back to your Daily Kos, or Democratic Underground or Communist Party USA, where you belong.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 2/10/2013 8:29:12 PM     (No. 9169328)

Unless, of course, the real object of the legislation is simply to make criminals out of honest people...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: hopeandglory, 2/10/2013 9:11:57 PM     (No. 9169379)

Don´t read the Bunny Droppings . . . it just encourages more turds.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 2/10/2013 9:14:00 PM     (No. 9169383)

The old liberal mantra: "Better a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent man be condemned."
Today it´s a scorched earth approach: everyone will be punished because a few cannot be trusted.
Kinda takes you back to third grade when one of your fellow students broke a window in the bathroom. Unless someone fessed up, you all got punished and remained inside for recess.
We have Nanny Bloomberg and Sister Mary Obama as our leaders.
News flash to the troll: felons don´t need to buy guns at gunshows, they can steal them, borrow them from other felons or buy them off of the street. Background checks mean nothing to them.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/11/2013 12:03:22 AM     (No. 9169509)

#1, you mean the kind of ´background checks´ that the AZ gun dealer got from the DOJ? The check that ordered him to sell high cap weapons to gang members. What ever happened to EVERY person involved in that Fast and Furious operation? I find it repulsive that the same players in government who did something so obviously illegal, are now attempting to decide by fiat which Americans can defend themselves and what they can do with their property. Defend THAT.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/11/2013 6:52:44 AM     (No. 9169657)

The gun crackdown has nothing to do with crime but eradicating the 2nd amendment.

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