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LAPD to reopen probe into
firing of ex-cop suspected
in three slayings

Los Angeles Times, by Andrew Blankstein and Cindy Chang

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Posted By:PageTurner, 2/9/2013 10:27:38 PM

Los Angeles police announced Saturday that it would reopen the investigation into the firing of Christopher Jordan Dorner from the LAPD, apparently prompting Dorner´s vengeful rampage that has left three people dead. Chief Charlie Beck is reopening the investigation because he wants “to insure the public that the LAPD is fair and transparent,” Cmdr. Andrew Smith said at a late-afternoon news conference at LAPD’s headquarters downtown. Dorner was stripped of his badge in 2009 after a police disciplinary board found him guilty of making false statements against his training officer, Teresa Evans.

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From what I could tell, it was a bad firing. But it only happened because they couldn´t get rid of him on incompetence and bad judgment grounds.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 2/9/2013 10:52:36 PM     (No. 9168066)

Have to agree with you there, OP.
The initial reports of Dorner´s murder spree included statements from that suspect´s father, who told him that he´d been kicked in the chest "by a cop".
I wonder what´s become of Sgt. Evans since then?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: fishbone, 2/9/2013 11:09:28 PM     (No. 9168079)

Sorry OP and #1, cannot completely agree on the incompetence as there hasn´t been anything to corroborate that. However, I believe he showed bad judgement by not toeing the "blue line" and going along with his cop buddies.

Seriously, this doesn´t absolve him from doing these killings but apparently his life had been ruined due to entries into his record. Maybe we´ll get the whole story with this "transparent" (familiar term) reopening of his case. ... Nah, it´ll be a whitewash of the LAPD. /color me cynical/


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Reply 3 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/9/2013 11:20:03 PM     (No. 9168084)

Is this to placate the public so no questions will be raised about all of the bullet holes and individuals shot by the trigger happy cops when they shot at the wrong pickups? It appears the instructions must have been to shoot first and ask questions later.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/9/2013 11:41:24 PM     (No. 9168098)

Let me tell you, I read Dorner´s manifesto. I can relate to it (if it is at all true).
I reported a supervisor who had stolen money from a crime scene! I had cold evidence he did it. The fury of Hades rained down on me. Three shift supervisors wrote simultaneous disciplinary reports accusing me of malfeasance- all total lies. I proved them to be lies. The guy resigned in the face of a complete investigation- but, it was two months of pure awful. During it, one night in a severe thunderstorm, I had to attend an emergency on the road- I was in a really dangerous situation and desperately needed help to get victims off the road and secure the situation. I called on the radio, and I could hear cops keying their mikes and laughing. "See what happens to cops who don´t play the game?". Later, one of the supervisors who falsely wrote report on me even apologized. "They ordered me to do it! You know I´m only two years from retirement, I had to do it. Sorry."
I never compromised in 11 years. After 11 years I finally could not go through another set of writing up bad cops and then go through the h**l afterward. I just gave up.
Really, it looks like this time, the LAPD cops messed with a crazy dude who just would not take their stuff- He´s crazy! Ready to blowup! And then they pushed him one inch too far. That´s what it looks like right now. But, we really need to wait for the full investigation. Right?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: veritas, 2/9/2013 11:43:19 PM     (No. 9168100)

#3: I´m kinda with you. The LAPD´s already finished the investigation of killing the serial-killer blue pick-up? One thing for sure, that tailgate will never threaten anyone again.

Oh -- and is there a report on that neighbor´s front door that was shot 5 times by the cops? In ICU? Dead? What?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 2/9/2013 11:46:50 PM     (No. 9168102)

When My son left the service after special Forces ops duty he was offered a ranking job with the LAPD and refused. His reason was while his life expectancy was 3 minuets in the service it would be 1 min. with the job offered based on how that city enforced the law.
In fact he wouldn´t even live in Ca.


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Reply 7 - Posted by: fayebeck, 2/10/2013 12:25:59 AM     (No. 9168125)

He nothing more than a murderer. That´s all.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Crosscut, 2/10/2013 12:45:24 AM     (No. 9168133)

Unfortunately he is off his nut and needs to be put down. He is a stone killer and not a hero.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bdog, 2/10/2013 12:56:07 AM     (No. 9168138)

I think it is wonderful that so many here are capable of describing what took place with this man and LAPD and have absolutely no first hand knowledge. I´m not absolving LAPD, but this man had nothing but problems once he entered the police department. It would be nice to have some real facts first, then hang them.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: 4Justice, 2/10/2013 1:09:39 AM     (No. 9168143)

I never got a chance to read the whole manifesto, but my friend brought up an interesting question. What if those murders (Quan and her fiance) were part of the set-up/frame? I thought it didn´t really make sense...but then how do we know Dorner did actually kill them? Were there witnesses? Is there any way it could have possibly been something else? Car-jacking gone wrong...someone else calling for the "sacrifice"...I dunno. Yes, it is far-fetched, but then again, it is hard to put anything past those guys anymore. My friend is the most law-abiding, straight arrow you could find, but even she has had very bad experiences with cops in SoCal.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TXspyder, 2/10/2013 1:13:50 AM     (No. 9168145)

If he was such a bad apple, how did he last in the military where they would not put up with that type of behavior.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 2/10/2013 1:36:38 AM     (No. 9168151)

Where is Joseph Wambaugh when you need him?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: zorba, 2/10/2013 2:18:37 AM     (No. 9168165)

The propaganda campaign to make this murderer look like a poor, misunderstood victimized soul has begun. The liberal media rehab of bad guys and denigration of good guys continues unabated.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/10/2013 3:04:18 AM     (No. 9168176)

The guy apparently started filing complaints against other officers in the LAPD right after he was hired. He had to know that he did not fit in with the LAPD culture.

At that point most sane people would have moved on to bigger and better things. He did not, and now has embarked on his own personal suicide by cop mission. So the chances are very high that when he is encountered by law enforcement that he will get his wish.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Up2Here, 2/10/2013 3:23:52 AM     (No. 9168186)

Right or wrong, you can only take so much away from a proud man before he lashes out. If he feels that there is no recourse, that he is in a corner and has not been taught how to regulate his emotions all bets are off. I teach my daughter, be nice to all and defend the weak because anyone can snap.

Read the manifesto. If the facts bear out, bad things come to bad people.

#12- Post o´ the day

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/10/2013 4:05:42 AM     (No. 9168198)

I can´t believe there´s people actually saying this guy´s 3 premeditated murders are somehow justifiable.The reason he´s such a big anti-hero to the left,is he´s a firm Obama supporter and all around liberal. But if Obama can murder people in the open range,hey why shouldn´t that apply to everybody?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bumblebee, 2/10/2013 4:18:18 AM     (No. 9168200)

TV reports tell of a violent past, kicked out of high school and disiplined in the army, etc. I don´t know. How can anyone know the truth now-a-days?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: LanieLou, 2/10/2013 5:08:03 AM     (No. 9168215)

He´s black & a liberal. Holder will destroy the white woman supervisor responsible for his firing & make him a hero. Gotta stoke those racial & unjust rages.

It´s not so easy to fire a cop. There had to be much more in his file. Cops are in a union, after all.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bigken2, 2/10/2013 8:00:13 AM     (No. 9168356)

just another reason to NEVER go to california

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tedinmich, 2/10/2013 8:27:43 AM     (No. 9168390)

For awhile, I thought I was on the wrong web site. No justification for murder posters! None!!

Ted in Michigan

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Reply 21 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/10/2013 8:36:08 AM     (No. 9168398)

I have handled police officer disciplinary cases, from suspension to discharge.
In this case, some of you are reaching conclusions not based on evidence in the record, but a collection of observations.

This fellow would have gone through arbitration, or court, or both. His termination would have had to have been proven to be for just cause, to the satisfaction of the arbitrator. and/or to the level of proof required in a trial.
Reopening his case is sort of like the president apologizing to muslims for that obscure video.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: harper, 2/10/2013 1:03:44 PM     (No. 9168794)

I don´t have any idea about the literal rights and wrongs of this case, but just want to note the Liberal dilemma faced by the LAPD back in the day: they had the sacred cow of race in one corner, but 2 sacred cows, race and gender in the other corner. Their decision was easy. Dorner was out. The facts were superfluous.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 2/10/2013 1:41:56 PM     (No. 9168853)

I got an idea. How about we round up his crazy, liberal, whiny misunderstood ass first and then we´ll see what makes him tick and then we´ll see if that matters.

Unless , of course, he wants to go out in a hail of bullets.
Gotta love a world full of insanity defense lawyers.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: plumnellie, 2/10/2013 3:55:58 PM     (No. 9169030)

Is this Huffington Post? Do we excuse murderers here now? He should be the poster boy for the leftwing and now I see he is also the posterboy of mqny Lcom posters. Wow. The times they are a changin.

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