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Ex-Texas GOP Chairman: Rove Was
in ‘Anti-Reagan Faction’

American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord

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Posted By:mikkins2, 2/9/2013 9:00:18 AM

Former Texas Republican State Chairman and ex-Reagan administration official Tom Pauken has released this statement on Karl Rove: Karl Rove campaigned in 1980 against Ronald Reagan and for George Herbert Walker Bush in the Republican presidential primary in Texas. In the general election, I never heard at the time that Karl was running the Reagan campaign in our state. Karl was working for Gov. Clements, but the Reagan leaders in Texas were Ray Barnhart and Ernie Angelo. I knew most of the Reagan leaders around the state, and Karl was not part of that group

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Let the truth be known.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: tulipwood, 2/9/2013 9:08:07 AM     (No. 9167073)

In another words, Rove is being revealed as a lying opportunist.


Reply 2 - Posted by: eoddad, 2/9/2013 9:20:02 AM     (No. 9167097)

All I know is Rove and Bush left my party in scrambles, with most of the American People confused on what separates the two Partiy´s. Bush owed the American people and the members of his team Republicans a safe, strong economic viable country instead we get a wannabe demigod, shallow dictator who never takes responsibility, and people complaining to me there ain´t a dimes worth of difference between the two party´s (something I still don´t believe).


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: SourKraut, 2/9/2013 9:34:23 AM     (No. 9167133)

Looks like Fat Karl tried the Big Lie once too often !


Reply 4 - Posted by: MissMolly, 2/9/2013 9:45:32 AM     (No. 9167167)

Get a grip, guys. Rove raised money for Reagan and was part of the Texas effort, but only after the primaries when Texan George H.W. Bush had lost.

This is silliness compounded.


Reply 5 - Posted by: MissMolly, 2/9/2013 9:49:04 AM     (No. 9167171)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/08/did-karl-rove-really-work-for-ronald-reagan-its-complicated/

From the Daily Caller´s Matt K. Lewis.


Reply 6 - Posted by: MDConservative, 2/9/2013 9:51:40 AM     (No. 9167178)

Karl Rove...really. Whose idea was "compassionate conservatism"? I´m with #2. "The Architect", indeed.


Reply 7 - Posted by: skedaddle, 2/9/2013 10:04:15 AM     (No. 9167197)

Who cares whether Rove got on the Reagan train once he saw how the wind was blowing. Anybody with eyes and a brain can tell that Rove and both Bushes are RINOs or Dem-lites and that is Rove´s first choice.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Bumblebee, 2/9/2013 10:15:32 AM     (No. 9167218)

We need a Reagan personality to win over the Rove establishment. People vote more on personality than issues which they are mostly ignorant of. Too busy making a living to be concerned with filthy politics! Unless there is a tiresome endless war or a bad recession again.


Reply 9 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/9/2013 10:52:37 AM     (No. 9167279)

amazing that the republican kool-aid drinkers are not posting on this. i expect to hear that we need to rally around whatever candidate the establishment chooses and other such tripe


Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/9/2013 10:56:42 AM     (No. 9167288)

We do need a personality who can appeal to ultra-conservatives, the moderate conservaties and the moderates. I refuse to believe we have any liberals, so we´ll assume we´re to the right of middle. It would help if we stopped the name-calling from both sides. Tea Party Patriots are raising money for candidates and I don´t know why that is ok but it´s not okay for anyone else to do it. I think most of us would agree that we don´t all like the same political figures. We´re going to have to figure this out, though, if we´re ever going to win enough power to exercise it efficiently. Some of you who are condemning Rove for his group´s mission, should actively and loudly encourage whomever you have faith in to stand up and do the same.

#7, try to remember that Reagan didn´t skate to a 1980 nomination victory. There were many of us who supported others until he won the nomination. That doesn´t make Karl Rove or anyone else a devil, a RINO or anything similar.


Reply 11 - Posted by: nina584, 2/9/2013 11:03:27 AM     (No. 9167305)

Sorry! Fat Karl is a fat rino.


Reply 12 - Posted by: kanphil, 2/9/2013 11:11:46 AM     (No. 9167312)

I´ve said it before, and I guess I´ll say it again--Karl Rove is no conservative, he is an opportunist. I respect him for what he does best--raise money. But do I want him choosing our next candidate? No,no,no,no!


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: M Stuart, 2/9/2013 11:14:45 AM     (No. 9167316)

Has Rove lost his mind??

I thought he´d just lie low for a while and then reappear at the next election, but apparently not.


Reply 14 - Posted by: rabbit, 2/9/2013 11:45:54 AM     (No. 9167392)

So what? Everyone has a favorite in a primary, then gets on board with the primary winner for the general election run. And both guys turned out to be presidential material, just one after the other.

What is with this ´purge´ effort coming out of Republicans these days? Have we lost our collective minds? Whatever happened to trashing the other side instead of trashing our own side?


Reply 15 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/9/2013 12:05:25 PM     (No. 9167415)

okay republican kool-aid drinkers, i am still waiting for one of you to tell me how the repugs are not just as responsible for the $16 trillion in debt as the dimms?

and, i dont blame the Dimms for 0bama i blame the repugs for McCain and Romney.

The republican party never would have existed if those those tea party types in the 1850s had the same attitude today that the repug apologizers do


Reply 16 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 2/9/2013 12:08:08 PM     (No. 9167424)

We didn´t much like him when we first met him, but now that we´ve gotten to know him, we really dislike him...


Reply 17 - Posted by: kahunavol, 2/9/2013 12:17:00 PM     (No. 9167448)

The architect of the last two lost presidential elections. But that was apparently not his fault, it was conservatives who lost those elections. At least that is what we´re frequently told here.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: DanvilleBill, 2/9/2013 1:01:21 PM     (No. 9167533)

Like many LDots I´ve had reasons to lose some confidence in Rove of late, but the idea that he once supported GHWB against Reagan 30+ years ago is not one of them. Using that reasoning we should have REALLY disliked Reagan himself because he used to be a Democrat.


Reply 19 - Posted by: eoddad, 2/9/2013 3:40:20 PM     (No. 9167720)

#6 the same folks who came up with "compassionate conservatism"? are the same people who came up with a "A kindlier gentler Republican Party." G. Bush Sr. folks. And they did it right after Reagan handed them the WH.


Reply 20 - Posted by: absalom, 2/9/2013 4:17:08 PM     (No. 9167756)

#14 asks, "Whatever happened to trashing the other side instead of our own side?" Er..... ´our side´s leadership´ has been on the other side for a very long time and is the core reason nothing fundamental changes in DC. Apparently you haven´t noticed as yet.


Reply 21 - Posted by: absalom, 2/9/2013 4:18:40 PM     (No. 9167761)

#14 asks, "Whatever happened to trashing the other side instead of our own side?"
Er..... ´our side´s leadership´ has been on the other side for a very long time and is the core reason nothing fundamental changes in DC. Apparently you haven´t noticed as yet.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Lalo, 2/9/2013 4:36:49 PM     (No. 9167777)

This forum has become Lord of the Flies redux, with poor Rove as you know who. Just a feeding frenzy of mindless stomping on him.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: tomishere, 2/9/2013 9:56:56 PM     (No. 9168011)

#10 and 14 it´s a waste of time to try to reason with people who are incapable of reasoning.


Reply 24 - Posted by: CentralFLMom, 2/14/2013 2:35:56 PM     (No. 9176501)

Mr. Rove is a Godless, joyless, Machiavellian eunuch.. Or as my daughter says, he´s a "tool".
His time is up...he needs to go to ( jail).
Don´t forget this man has a history of treason. He outed a CIA agent ( even though she deserved it) and caused unknown deaths.
The only person or cause Karl Rove cares about is Karl Rove.
Don´t tread on me!



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