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Topic: Obama hands off on Benghazi action |
Obama hands off on Benghazi action
Washington Times, by Guy Taylor
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/7/2013 10:11:06 PM
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| Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta on Thursday revealed he personally broke the news to President Obama that the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, was under attack last year — but he and the president didn’t speak the rest of the night as the assault on the compound unfolded. Mr. Panetta said he and Mr. Obama, along with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, discussed the attack for 15 minutes in the Oval Office the afternoon of Sept. 11,
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Comments: This was absolutely stunning testimony. Can you imagine what the media would do if this Pres. Bush had behaved this way?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
quark, 2/7/2013 10:41:40 PM (No. 9164788)
What an awful thing to hear about by the grieving families: the POTUS really didn´t care.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
On fire, 2/7/2013 10:49:25 PM (No. 9164798)
One of the most sickening non actions of any President ever.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jl80863, 2/7/2013 11:21:25 PM (No. 9164828)
Another obama failure. Apparently he rendered himself incapable of reason or reaction. The 3 0 AM call came and no one was home. What a hypocritical POS.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
jt26, 2/7/2013 11:34:41 PM (No. 9164840)
The MSM will now get all over this shocking dereliction of presidential duty. crickets........
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Crosscut, 2/7/2013 11:53:29 PM (No. 9164854)
This is disturbing and sickening. Is the Media of this country going to allow this to pass too? What will it take? If nothing else the House should take an impeachment vote. The Senate never will but there should be the stain of impeachment put upon Obama´s administration. Obama is a craven cold hearted and cowardly jerk from Chicago. His re-election was all he cared about at the time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
billa, 2/8/2013 12:19:39 AM (No. 9164867)
And to think Nixon had to resign over the cover up a third rate burglary, where no one got killed and those involved served time for the involvement.
In our "Alice in Wonderland" world, Obama gets re-elected, Clinton resigns with a whopping pension, a arsenal of campaign funds and the next step as the first female president, and Panetta slithers away with zero accountability as the Secretary of Defense.
But I do not entirely blame them. Since no Republican, no press, and no public is holding the entire administration accountable, the Dems just toss it off. Heads should roll and BO, HRC and Panetta should be serving time for accomplice to murders. All three have sworn duty to preserve American lives and are the only ones with the authority to authorize military strikes and rescue. BO´s statement that Panetta do whatever you can...is the penultimate of dereliction of duty.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
TXknitter, 2/8/2013 12:46:22 AM (No. 9164876)
THIS showed us today the depths of moral depravity to which we have sunk. A President, Secretaries of State and Defense can actually go about their merry way after such dereliction of duty, heartlessness, and stupidity. I almost lost it tonight hearing McCain pepper his assessments about Benghazi with "how much he admires Clinton and Panetta." Senator McCain, you should be ashamed. How can the Benghazi survivors assist their bosses in staying hidden and avoiding an interview? How can the late Ambassador´s poor family
really say absolutely silent? Does protecting Democrats truly come before EVERYTHING else now ?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 2/8/2013 3:55:06 AM (No. 9164941)
Obama & Hitlery walked away from the event that 1st evening, because they thought it was being executed, according to their plan.
Stevens was set up to be kidnapped by the Mo Bro´s, so Obama could exchange the Blind Sheik for him. Obviously ground terrorists preferred massacre to a prisoner exchange.
That is why a cover up was #1 priority over all else.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Grambo, 2/8/2013 4:37:40 AM (No. 9164960)
And Hillary, whom neither the SecDef nor the CIC bothered to even speak to, was “fully engaged” she says.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
King of all trolls, 2/8/2013 4:48:27 AM (No. 9164967)
15 years ago, before Fox and Teh Talk Show Host Party, this Bengazi business would have been a big deal. Now, due to the bunkerization of the GOP, it is a tawdry, partisan, talking point.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Th-Gr-Sil-Majority, 2/8/2013 4:59:17 AM (No. 9164970)
...different article above this uses the word MALFEASANCE...along with many other discriptive phrases used here, that fits Barry to a T...
...this investigation needs to be taken up a few steps. There is a malignant growth in the White House and this administration. It needs to be cut out and radiated...
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LadyVet, 2/8/2013 6:00:36 AM (No. 9164993)
I noted that Obama was not the only one who was derelict in his duty. Panetta says he did not talk to Hillary either. Hillary is a control freak who did not want anyone else on her turf. And she certainly did not want the military. In her mind, she loathes the military - same as her alleged husband. It would not be a normal reaction for Hillary to work with the military. Thus her people wasted 3 hours negotiating for a civilian plane out of Tripoli when the military could have been there, with much more force, a lot sooner. And of course, once she and her people started negotiating with the Libyans, they gave away the element of surprise.
We do not want this woman in the White House. She has terrible judgment, poor reactions in a crisis, and can´t out-think a Libyan 2nd Lt.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
pineledger, 2/8/2013 7:08:45 AM (No. 9165082)
I have said from the beginning that there was a little too much happy hour that night.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Chiritwo, 2/8/2013 7:26:37 AM (No. 9165102)
Unbelievable!! Congress, the press (old and new) seem to be ok with this. What a bunch of spineless losers - from the top down. It´s time for those 30 survivors to come forward. No one is going to be held accountable. One just has to shake their head. They should all be ashamed of themselves.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Sayit, 2/8/2013 7:26:59 AM (No. 9165103)
#9 I think has it exactly correct. This is truly sickening....
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Red Jeep, 2/8/2013 7:30:48 AM (No. 9165109)
"‘I believe that Obama murdered my son." Patrician Smith, mother of murdered Pat Smith.
"The father of one of the former Navy SEALs killed in the terrorist attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya says President Barack Obama wouldn’t even look him in the eye and Vice President Joe Biden was disrespectful during the ceremony when his son’s body returned to America. He also says the White House’s story on the attack doesn’t pass the smell test." Charles Woods, father of Tyrone Woods
Remember? Obama should be impeached,
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
lancelink1, 2/8/2013 7:38:58 AM (No. 9165121)
Occam´s Razor - #9 has a theory but I think this is nothing more than the man child and the PIAPS not caring about or understanding in real time what was happening. Not fully knowledgeable in the military capabilities, as they loathe the military, they just walked away and did not perform the duties for which they were hired. The event did not fit their pre-election agenda so they probably believed it would just go away, especially if they could frame the incident with the message it was someone else´s fault. Then that message got away from them and their damage control began unraveling.
Negligent or incompetent you decide. But at the end of the day it truly will be "What difference, at this point, does it matter?" because nothing will come of this. It will be glossed over and forgotten before the next three news cycles.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna, 2/8/2013 7:47:58 AM (No. 9165133)
Who gave the order to "Stand Down"?
No one....because Barky lied about telling everyone to "Do everything possible" to save those people.
That order was never given.
This much was PROVEN at yesterday´s hearing.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
M2, 2/8/2013 8:16:01 AM (No. 9165180)
“That’s something that can’t be ignored,” he said. “We sit around all day long and talk about the resources that we should have and don’t have. … [But] the big problem here is the cover-up, and nobody talks about it, and that’s a tragedy.”
I beg to differ: While the coverup is certainly germane to the unraveling of this Benghazi mess, the more important thing is that this President was utterly disengaged and that is how he wanted it.
As usual, Obama handoff the ball to someone else to drop. He has never, ever, in his entire laughably incompetent career, had the courage to make a decision that could possibly fail. He isn´t a leader. He is a coward.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
benignczar, 2/8/2013 8:36:16 AM (No. 9165214)
Now, now, we should be willing to give His Serene Highness, Shaddak Obama IV, the benefit of the doubt. He and First Harem Girl, Valerie Jarrett, were undoubtedly in conference, trying to decide how they could make a few bucks off of this situation.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
krause, 2/8/2013 8:51:36 AM (No. 9165240)
Interesting that 2 patriotic Americans, Woods and Doherty, came to the rescue, while the politicians sat on their hands. What does that tell you?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
stryker714, 2/8/2013 8:54:03 AM (No. 9165256)
What is interesting is the patronizing tone Hildebeast and Panetta take in explaining it away. If we feel berated, out of our league enough maybe we´ll stop making such a fuss over the whole debacle. Right?
Gotta love Panetta saying dialing 911 over in Libya doesn´t exist. Hey, the response time would have been too long, so why bother? Just take their word for it.
"Spared no effort" is B.S. Panetta, Hildebeast and crew did not lift a finger, literally. All they had to do was pick up the phone and dial. How hard is that?
Wouldn´t that be great to see all three stooges take a round house kick to the head in a cage and drop to the ground? We can dream I guess. No one deserves it more.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
tocsin, 2/8/2013 8:56:18 AM (No. 9165264)
Does the US House of Representatives(controlled by REPUBLICANS)have a Foreign Affairs Committee? Why is that committee(controlled by REPUBLICANS)not holding hearings EVERY day on this? American Citizens want to know! Are we no longer citizens? Are we now subjects of the Democrat Monarchy? Would the usual suspects like to defend the Republians for THEIR malfeasance?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
saucy, 2/8/2013 9:04:14 AM (No. 9165282)
There was something else going on and I don´t think we have scratched the surface.
Why was the "consulate" so exposed? What was Chris Stevens doing there with so little CIA cover? Why WAS it CIA cover? What was the meeting preceding the attack all about? ...and more....?????
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
enuf8, 2/8/2013 9:22:13 AM (No. 9165339)
During the hearing IMO they would have liked to blame Gen. Hamm, N. Africon, for the lack of actions, but stopped short. There is more which needs to be uncovered.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Truth Czar, 2/8/2013 9:35:58 AM (No. 9165379)
The yellow-bellied CinC delegated to a yellow-bellied Defense Secretary... and how many lies were fed to the American electorate in the ensuing weeks and months? Forget high crimes and misdemeanors, this is TREASON. A man with any morality would resign... a lesser man deserves impeachment!
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Arby, 2/8/2013 9:48:35 AM (No. 9165417)
No surprise at all, but this dereliction of duty would bother real journalists and real patriots. Instead, they´ll all slather at Fauxbama´s feet and say that the republicans are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
This is pathetic. What is Fauxbama doing--worrying over Sandra Fluke´s pills?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
luandir, 2/8/2013 9:49:46 AM (No. 9165419)
Why is Panetta choosing to spill the beans now? Sure, he´s on his way out the door, but he´s throwing a grenade in behind him.
Or would be if the State-Run Media were to pick up any of this...
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
ida Lou Pino, 2/8/2013 10:57:19 AM (No. 9165581)
Five months later - - and the Pubbies still have not demanded a minute-by-minute accounting of what Zippy was doing on Sept 11 & 12.
With "opposition" like that - - is it any wonder why Zippy is as brazen as he is?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
PoliticalJunky, 2/8/2013 11:21:35 AM (No. 9165621)
No. 19, I think Petreus gave an order to go to the rescue. There was a start made. There was an order to stand down. My guess is given by Brennan.
That claim that it started as a plot to have the Ambassador captured and exchanged for the blind sheik sounds crazy but for some reason Obama kept hands off and did not want to know. Remember too, he can come up[ with some wild plans, such as fast and furious..
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
BetseyRoss, 2/8/2013 11:35:40 AM (No. 9165647)
Panetta and Dempsey looked like school boys in the principal´s office. You know they lied about almost everything. The one thing I think they told the truth about was Obama walking away from the situation. It is his MO and he was running for a second term. I do believe that maybe Panetta and Dempsey did try to do something and Jarret shut them down. She cannot be happy after Bin Laden and then they constructed the story about the video. Or as soon as there was trouble in Egypt the video story started surfacing and then they decided to keep applying it to Benghazi. They knew the press wouldn´t do anything. They probably also knew that Romney wouldn´t either.
None of these puzzle pieces fit together to make a plausable story. They are all lying, but the story is coming together. What we all know now is that they are all incompetent or they are covering up one big huge story and that is that the US is arming Muslims----mostly the radicals.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 2/8/2013 11:54:09 AM (No. 9165693)
(D) guarantees nothing will happen
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
bighambone, 2/8/2013 12:22:44 PM (No. 9165771)
We read what amounts to our statewide newspaper, and this morning there was not a peep about Panetta´s testimony and the fact that Obama was "absent" the night of the Benghazi attacks.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
GreatPlains, 2/8/2013 12:24:59 PM (No. 9165776)
This is not the first national security crisis that Obama has slept through. Obama also slept through the 2009 Christmas Day terror attack on a Northwest Airlines by Al Queda. The next day, the White House spokesman Bill Burton told the media that Obama did not become aware of the terror attack until " about three hours after the plane landed." " About " could mean even longer than 3 hours. " Obama then held a conference call with Homeland Security and counter-terror adviser John Brennan and NSC chief of staff Denis McDonough. Well, well Brennan´s name again ... " Burton said that in a subsequent call, ( why not during the first phone call ??!! What time was the subsequent phone call ?? ) Obama “ instructed that all appropriate measures be taken to increase security for air travel.” When the country is being attacked, waiting hours to react is textbook Dereliction of Duty. Some major questions must be answered. Why is Obama always asleep or absent during times of national crisis ? Is he hung over or otherwise unable to perform the duties of POTUS and CINC ? Who at the White House assumes the responsibilities of the CINC without the 25th Amendment being invoked ?
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
strike3, 2/8/2013 1:02:25 PM (No. 9165849)
I believe that barry has a drinking problem even bigger than his smoking problem and his inner circle knows better than to involve him in anything while he is incapacitated. There have been other instances where he has been "absent" without explanation. His ego would not allow him to accept treatment for such human weaknesses and you just don´t solve problems like that on your own. Besides suffering from terminal incompetence, I think he is a closet alcoholic.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
montanabound, 2/8/2013 1:33:28 PM (No. 9165896)
What happened to the families? Mr Woods has not been interviewed for a long time. Mrs Smith sent an e-mail to Greta a few days ago, but generally they have been very quiet lately. And where are the 30+ survivors? Why are they not before Congress under oath? This may be so bad that neither party wants us to know what was going on there.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Truth Czar, 2/8/2013 2:07:47 PM (No. 9165966)
It is said Obama took no action on the night of the Benghazi attack. This is not true. He actively dismissed the pleas of Americans begging for help and passed the buck to his yellow-bellied subordinates, thus laying the foundation for a future claim of plausible deniability. Somebody needs to teach our CinC about American concepts like honor, courage, and that authority can be delegated, but responsibility cannot. Barry Marshall then proved his true psychopathology by calling it a day early... no doubt sleeping soundly in preparation for the REAL imperative of early morning travel for a fundraiser.
The foul taste of bile rises to my throat as once again Barry makes me puke!
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
zazu, 2/8/2013 2:15:35 PM (No. 9165986)
# 11: 15 years ago without Fox or talk shows we would not even know it happened. "Nothing happened here. Move along. Move along.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Quiet Observer, 2/8/2013 2:57:06 PM (No. 9166056)
All of you Ldotters are being too hard on Obama; after all, he had more important things to do at the time. Things like: • Demonizing Mitt Romney, • Figuring out how to keep those illegal foreign campaign contributions pouring in, • Coming up with alternative explanations of what he REALLY meant by, “You didn’t build that”, • Claiming Executive Privilege for all of the incriminating “Fast & Furious” documents, • Fixing an election, • Dreaming about the son – Trayvon – he never had, • Receiving his marching orders from Comrade ValJar, • Excluding Fox News from his conference calls with the MSM re: the latest propaganda strategy, • Preparing for the first Presidential Debate in Denver. Naahhh…. that’s too much like work – just keep on demonizing Mitt Romney, • Soaking up the unearned adulation and adoration of the liberal media, • Watching a compilation of his defenders explaining why everything that conservatives ever say about him is racist (that alone can account for at least 7 hours), • Planning his next vacation, • Hoping for a domestic massacre to give him the ‘crisis’ he needs to abolish the 2nd Amendment.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
gwmcclintok, 2/8/2013 3:09:59 PM (No. 9166070)
I learned in Vietnam 68-69 to trust my government. You folk just don´t believe. You got to believe. I mean LBJ loved me and my guys with Third Marines. He would never do anything to harm us. Obama will never hurt Americans,,,,he is a steadfast loyal American. And if you question that...well you just arn´t faithful. And Nixon, he was my favorite President...There were only 25k dead when he took office....and he kept it to only 30k more. He was a good man. You could trust ol Dick. I love LBJ, and Jack, and Nixon, and Carter, and the Bush´s, with Clinton and now our great commander Obama....God forbid that I should ever question my great 21st century American government.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
caddyjak, 2/8/2013 3:12:51 PM (No. 9166078)
#37...Since when do crackheads drink cocaine?
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
pineledger, 2/8/2013 3:56:35 PM (No. 9166167)
43, alcohol is legal. Cocaine is not. The "blow"back on getting caught with that would be insurmountable.
Thank you, 37. I would also ask everyone to please recall the single solitary medical report that we have had on Zippy, in which he was told to "moderate his alcohol consumption."
If that kind of recommendation could get out, can you imagine the real severity of the problem?
I can think of no other plausible reason for his disappearance that night and on many other occasions.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Heraclitus, 2/8/2013 4:18:30 PM (No. 9166196)
Well put, #8. And so many other great comments.
Most of our fellow Americans are clueless.
Compare in your mind´s eye the killing bin laden photo of situation room and the events of 9/11/12. There was not going to be any glory for BO.
As a true narcissist, BO cares only for what exalts his own image. ...but he thought he could escape scrutiny. Thus far he really had. Fortunately Repubs are not letting him off the hook.
Again, the public is deliberately kept clueless. The propaganda media are perhaps the greatest danger to our Republic. All the while, they play the silly girl, cooing, giddily laughing, swooning..
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
bmoc, 2/8/2013 7:30:46 PM (No. 9166447)
I had just started writing a book on ´tinfoil hat´ conspiracies when this incident occurred. I kept weaving it into the story and as I did some research on it, I found a relatively unknown anonymous blogger who said on September 12th very plainly and simply what had happened.
At first I thought she was just a crazed whacko but her columns written in the following days have proven out to be about 90% accurate. The other 10%? The story is still being opened up. My book (The Tinfoil Hat Chronicles) is finished and is currently for sale as a pdf file on the website listed in my user name profile. Sadly enough, I am finding that what I fully intended to be nothing but a story about conspiracy theories is being proven to be much more than that every day.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
ScrIbelus, 2/8/2013 8:13:23 PM (No. 9166494)
Henceforth, and forever. "The Benghazi Bolshevik".
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Lovetoteach, 2/8/2013 9:09:04 PM (No. 9166565)
#37....
my theory as well, he was drunk.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
leftcoastmom, 2/8/2013 10:18:46 PM (No. 9166650)
I hate these people
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
get er done, 2/8/2013 10:42:00 PM (No. 9166666)
What would the consequences be if a flag rank military officer acted, or failed to act, as Obama has in the Benghazi massacre? Accusations of dereliction of duty and treason? Court martial? Ruination of career?
Obama is CIC and deserves the same consequences.
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Likening religious schools to segregation--a racist system that forced blacks to attend different schools and use different facilities than whites in the American South--President Barack Obama told a town hall meeting for youth in Belfast, Northern Ireland on Monday that there should not be Catholic and Protestant schools because such schools cause division. "Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity--symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others--these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it,"
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Edward Snowden Is In The Process Of Destroying Any Support And Sympathy He Has Built Up
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Business Insider, by Brett LoGiurato
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Posted By: StormCnter- 6/18/2013 5:34:23 AM
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Amid a steady rise of backlash, Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old former National Security Agency contractor who was the source of a spring of leaks about the agency´s surveillance methods, conducted a live chat on The Guardian´s website Monday morning. Judging from some of the pointed questions he´s been asked and the reaction to newly leaked revelations over the past few days, it´s clear that much of the sympathy and support Snowden had built up for his early exposures is eroding. Many Americans supported his decision to leak information about a pair of National Security Agency surveillance programs, which, he detailed, gathered information
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G8: Barack Obama looks like a president going through the motions
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Telegraph [UK], by Alex Spillius
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Posted By: JoniTx- 6/19/2013 4:58:06 AM
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Listening to Barack Obama give his speech in Belfast on Monday, it was hard not to stifle a yawn. I kept waiting for the part when he would say something interesting, but, about three quarters of the way through, realised it wasn’t going to come. Judging from television pictures some of his young audience felt the same, after the initial rush of euphoria of receiving the rock star president in their midst had passed. This is not surprising, for we had already heard this number about the inspirational role of the Northern Ireland peace process and the Emerald Isle’s
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Paula Deen admits in deposition using N-word, telling racist jokes, reports says
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Fox News, by Staff
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Posted By: Hobbiest- 6/19/2013 6:03:40 PM
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Celebrity chef Paula Deen admitted in a recorded deposition to telling racist jokes, using the N-word, and planning a slavery-themed wedding, according to multiple reports. The May 17 deposition where she made the alleged admissions is part of a $1.2 million lawsuit brought by Lisa Jackson, the former manager of a Savannah, Georgia, restaurant run by Deen and her brother Bubba Hiers. Jackson alleges in the suit that Deen used the N-word at the restaurant and that Hiers sexually harassed her. According to the reports, in the deposition, Deen replied “Yes, of course,”
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How Democracies Perish, Deathbed Edition
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American Thinker, by Daren Jonescu
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Posted By: steveW- 6/18/2013 6:11:46 AM
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This is the thirtieth anniversary of the publication of How Democracies Perish, an analysis of the spread of world communism by Jean-François Revel, one of freedom´s most serious French defenders since Tocqueville. At the heart of this work, Revel details "The Tools of Communist Expansion," among which the most relevant for understanding our current situation comes in Chapter 16, "Ideological Warfare and Disinformation." The profound simplicity of Revel´s nuts and bolts account of totalitarianism´s Cold War advance, far from being obsolete
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