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Why conservatives should
back immigration reform

Politico, by Al Cardenas

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 2/7/2013 5:54:53 PM

I am pleased that the conversation on immigration reform started in earnest last week after a bipartisan group of senators unveiled a set of principles that will guide the debate moving forward. Despite Senator Marco Rubio’s interviews with Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, a number of my colleagues in the conservative movement remain skeptical. That is understandable given Congress’s history. In 1986, President Ronald Reagan championed amnesty for over one million unauthorized immigrants in exchange for significant reform — which would have included a thoughtful process moving forward that would restrain, if not completely stop,

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Reply 1 - Posted by: civilservant, 2/7/2013 6:16:18 PM     (No. 9164485)

And Reagan regretted being rolled by the Left on that one.

Mr. Cardenas, we need murder reform. No one follows that law either. So, if you´ve murdered and gotten away with it for 2 years, we give you amnesty.

Hey, what´s the rule of law if only applied to specific instances?

Lack of enforcement does not equal the need for reform.

And no, I am not equating murder with illegal immigration.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 2/7/2013 6:25:12 PM     (No. 9164501)

Doctors talking about preventing household accidents is all well and good but when you have an open wound the ER docs don´t bother about the lectures and instead focus on stopping the bleeding.

I don´t care what side of this issue you fall on - as long as the border chaos continues then any ´reform´ is pointless because of the moving target.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bob913, 2/7/2013 6:34:29 PM     (No. 9164522)

Marco Rubio appears on Time magazine cover. That should tell you the liberals are using him and he is undermining America to get Mexicans by the 10´s of millions into this country to vote him the next president.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: alloysteel, 2/7/2013 6:36:34 PM     (No. 9164528)

I am all in favor of immigration reform.

First, we go back to the Immigration and Nationality Services Act of 1965, Hart-Seller, passed in the fever days of the Great Society. Repeal it forthwith, and substitute a bill that FAVORS the immigration of successful and accomplished people, and requiring some accountability for maintaining contact with those resident aliens who came here on visas. No overstays, and no sneaking in a whole family under a "compassionate" clause. The applicants have to be able to support themselves once they arrive in this country, without resorting to any of the welfare programs. Their only "welfare" in that instance is to be given a one-way ticket back to their place of origin. While here, the resident alien is expected to comply with the law as any citizen would, and would be subject to legal action if extenuating circumstances could not be demonstrated. The alien is a GUEST, and is accorded only the rights extended to guests, which are vastly more limited than rights extended to citizens.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/7/2013 6:38:11 PM     (No. 9164531)

Bunch of verbs here used to say nothing. The salient point here is that we DO NOT have de facto amnesty, because illegals cannot vote. Secondly, the fact that the real unemployment rate is around 15% yet illegal guests comprise 5% of the US work force ought to tell you everything you need to know about the "jobs Americans won´t do" shinola.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bpl40, 2/7/2013 7:27:45 PM     (No. 9164588)

Notice how the ´Rats are steadfastly opposing every proposal of sealing the border first. They DON´T want immigration reform. Uncontrolled influx and a straight road to citizenship through amnesty to dilute the patriotic vote is the clear goal.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tnorling, 2/7/2013 7:36:06 PM     (No. 9164598)

At the risk of repetition, illegals in addition to taking jobs from Americans also depress wages. Any amnesty will attract more, and, quite frankly, are YOU going to pay for their social security and medicare? They can´t, because they haven´t and never will pay anything significant into the system if they were made legal.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: saguni, 2/7/2013 7:44:42 PM     (No. 9164606)

Lot of words, but no mention of why we should even listen to him.

Why is it that every other crime on the books, when caught, the criminal isn´t allowed to profit from his crimes.

Yet for criminal alien invaders who trespass into this country, commit identity theft to have papers in order to work, often smuggle (guns, drugs, sex slaves) when entering this country, often commit crimes/drive under the influence of drugs &/or alcohol, etc. etc. etc. then get rewarded with a "path to citizenship" for themselves and instant benefits for their children.

Where is the justice or "fairness" in this?..they get to line-jump ahead of all the millions of legal immigrants from every nation in the world who are following the rules.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Japanorama, 2/7/2013 8:24:01 PM     (No. 9164634)

"reform" hell
This is expunging the criminal records of every illegal immigrant.
Result.
Millions more illegal immigrants who will seek reform.
Result.
No more America.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: KTWO, 2/7/2013 8:27:46 PM     (No. 9164639)

"Reform", in this case, is happy talk. A device to achieve nothing while saying you have fixed a problem.

It doesn´t matter what the immigration laws say if they are not or cannot be enforced.

Obama won´t enforce any provisions he dislikes. And the Democrats see millions of new voters.

Which means state voter registration laws have to be neutered too. So Holder´s DOJ attacks every single attempt to enforce them.

No improvement will be made while Obama is in office. Only the wording of the deceptions will mutate.



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Reply 11 - Posted by: 6ironejd, 2/7/2013 9:02:58 PM     (No. 9164676)

This is just another piece of "Amnesty is inevitable" tripe from the political press. Most illegals are not interested in a path to citizenship but rather a path to benefits. There is a big difference. Think of 30 million illegals eligible for ObamaCare.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Don´s Thought, 2/7/2013 9:04:14 PM     (No. 9164678)

#4 Well said.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/7/2013 11:30:17 PM     (No. 9164836)

No thanks.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/8/2013 12:16:41 AM     (No. 9164866)

I disagree. The vast majority of illegal aliens are poor generally uneducated people who earn low wages and have big families. With human nature being what it is, once legalized they will access every safety net social welfare program that they possibly can to survive here.

Right now as illegal aliens, being ineligible to access most social welfare programs, they have little choice but to accept any job offered to them at whatever wage the employer wishes to pay them. Once legalized they will no longer have to accept those hard jobs and many will not. Employers won´t care because they will just hire from the new crop of illegal aliens who are sure to appear encouraged to come here because of the amnesty.

Common sense dictates that the vast majority of those people, when they are given US voting rights will vote for the liberal Democrats, who promise them complete access to social welfare programs and other rights, rather then vote for Republicans who want to downsize those programs and limit the legalized aliens access because of the huge costs that the government is sure to incur.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: suedotsue, 2/8/2013 2:43:37 AM     (No. 9164925)

If one hasn´t researched this author one might assume he´s a so-called conservative. I see him as someone who needs to move off the public would-be conservative stage. People like him are worse than democrats.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 2/8/2013 10:33:10 AM     (No. 9165521)

Well, I´m such a die-hard conservative that I´m ticked off about Rubio´s multi-lingual response to the SOTU. First, the obvious- it´s pandering, pure and simple. Second, I don´t like the idea that there are enough people comfortably living in this country that still appreciate hearing it in Spanish.

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