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Conservative Fury at Rove Erupts
American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/7/2013 8:01:22 AM

Yow. Talk about a political disaster. The other day I closed a piece on Karl Rove by saying that in launching what he called the “Conservative Victory Project” Mr. Rove had made a big mistake. A really big mistake. The group, described here in the New York Times as “intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles,” has had a horrific reception among conservatives Now? Yesterday the big mistake became bigger. Much bigger. A thunderstorm became Katrina. Yesterday, American Crossroads

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The article appears to be very, very long but a lot of it is because the list of signatures contained in a letter. It is well worth the read.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/7/2013 8:09:13 AM     (No. 9163158)

Joe Walsh has launched an alternative to Karl Rove´s group, so the anti-Roves have a place to put their money. In the meantime, I´m welcoming anyone who is putting forth time, money and effort to get Republicans elected. The more the merrier. Maybe the enthusiasm will help offset the rampant negativity against any GOPers who aren´t fitting the preferred mold.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: olcap, 2/7/2013 8:13:48 AM     (No. 9163166)

My interest is in electing CONSERVATIVES, not republicans.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 2/7/2013 8:17:04 AM     (No. 9163172)

Sorry #1, but I am through voting for Republicans that talk like, and vote with, Democrats.

Karl Rove was the mastermind behind 8 years of an administration that thought it could defeat Democrats by outspending them. I guess we all now know that is not possible.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 2/7/2013 8:18:42 AM     (No. 9163178)

Your definition of conservative might not match mine, #1. I´m looking for small government candidates. I have zero interest in their stand on abortion. We get killed at the polls when they begin taking crazy positions on abortion and contraception.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 2/7/2013 8:19:26 AM     (No. 9163181)

Sorry, #2.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mws50, 2/7/2013 8:27:55 AM     (No. 9163198)

Carl Rove is all about Carl Rove making money and acquiring power. He could care less if someone was as intelligent as Ted Cruz, or as ignorant as Barbara Boxer. If it helped him make money or acquire power, he is all for it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ketchuplover, 2/7/2013 8:34:12 AM     (No. 9163210)

Wow. Just wow. Thanks for posting!!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Malia2012, 2/7/2013 8:38:23 AM     (No. 9163220)

What #1 said.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 2/7/2013 8:50:30 AM     (No. 9163245)

Why would conservatives take advice from establishment GOP operatives #1? The sudden appearance of Walsh is most likely an attempt at damage control.

Mr. Lord may be right about not focusing as much on Rove as the enemy but rather focusing our blood and sweat against the Republican establishment that Rove represents. Rove and his associates are now pariahs. Speaking for myself, I abhor the conduct of elites, consultants and operatives who view us as unthinking masses that can be influenced by platitudinal diarrhea.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: reilly, 2/7/2013 8:52:06 AM     (No. 9163249)


Mr "Architect" should go consult liberals and Dims. He´s been helping them for years.




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Reply 11 - Posted by: right-turn, 2/7/2013 8:54:54 AM     (No. 9163254)

I´m fed up with rino´s, middle of the roaders, bi-partisan advocates, Rove types and all anti Tea Party drones. I love those who believe in and practice conservatism. Those who have principle and refuse to negotiate that principle have my backing.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Freeloader, 2/7/2013 8:59:02 AM     (No. 9163270)

Dittos #2

Uncle Karl would be wise to heed the admonishment of one of the world´s all-time greatest conservative thinkers, the late General George S. Patton, Jr., West Point Class of 1909..."Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way."

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tedinmich, 2/7/2013 9:01:33 AM     (No. 9163278)

#4- You have zero interest on a candidate´s stand on abortion? That sounds like a dem candidate to me(except he?she favours abortion).Your not a true conservative (maybe a powell rino).


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Reply 14 - Posted by: Donna M, 2/7/2013 9:22:42 AM     (No. 9163314)

Brilliant article, Lucianne Staff please consider this as a ´Must Read´. Rove trying to take on the mantle of conservatism? PLEEZE!!! And Mr. Lord´s close is a call to arms indeed!

"But one thing is certain.
It is very safe to say the leaders of today’s conservative movement, Brent Bozell included, will be damned if they are going to hand over the rich and deep heritage of that movement to Mr. Rove’s wildly misnamed “Conservative Victory Project.”

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bpl40, 2/7/2013 9:31:31 AM     (No. 9163335)

All our differences merge into one with a simple concept.
Take the country back to its Founding Charter.
Respect for Life
Liberty balanced by individual accountability
Limited government that governs least, Tolerance for differences without sacrificing the ´melting pot´ nature of America for a socialist mosaic Uncompromising defense of sovereignty and universal values.
Its all there. IMO it spells T-E-A P-A-R-T-Y.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: HPmatt, 2/7/2013 9:34:02 AM     (No. 9163343)

Lord completely misses it in his closing - it is not about Conservatives not turning over the Party to RINOs - it is about the COUNTRY!!! These Beltway dopes are just playing a game, while our liberties and national treasure and heritage are being DESTROYED!!!!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Axeman, 2/7/2013 9:35:27 AM     (No. 9163347)

I am not a Republican, never have been. I am a former Democrat who voted for Perot instead of Clinton and then registered "no party". I am waiting for a party of Constitutional conservatives to come along. In the mean time I vote and support issues and candidates based on their Constitutional and moral positions, as best I can. Karl Rove is pure Repub at any cost. I´m sorry he has so much power and sway. Most of the time doing the right thing means you have to suffer to some degree. It usually makes you stronger.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: chicodon, 2/7/2013 9:40:02 AM     (No. 9163354)

Rove represents the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party. i.e. the Republicans with the bucks. They are the ones who make money when they´re in power. It´s been an uneasy alliance from the beginning with the grassroots. All we get when we win is the satisfaction of doing the right thing.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Avogadra, 2/7/2013 9:43:15 AM     (No. 9163361)

I had my eyes opened to Mr. Rove a few years ago. He is a liar. He is better at lying, perhaps, than Mr. Clinton because he fools conservatives as well as liberals.

The interview with Hannity was a work of art. By the end, if I didn´t know better, I would have sworn that Mr. Rove was at the forefront of true conservative politics. We have to look at what Mr. Rove does, not at what he says. And what he does is perpetuate the rule of the Ruling Class, both Democrat and Democrat-lite. His political treatment of Sharron Angle, Christine O´Donnell and Richard Mourdock gives testimony to the true beliefs of Mr. Karl Rove.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Susannah, 2/7/2013 9:47:37 AM     (No. 9163382)

#18, you could always join the Constitution Party (www.constitutionparty.com). It´s been around for years, although not under that name till 1996 or so, and has branches in all fifty states.

Back in 1992, the party ran Howard Phillips for president. It was he who first said the Republicans would go the way of the Whigs.

I´m always surprised and amused by people who say they´re waiting for a Constitution Party and don´t realize there already is one. It´s a very easy Google.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/7/2013 10:05:20 AM     (No. 9163421)

Rove is still seething because NONE of those he and his PAC endorsed were capable of commanding a win. The Senate´s only NEW members were elected in spite of Rove and the Romney campaign.....yes, due to Gov. Palin and the T.E.A. movement.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/7/2013 10:07:43 AM     (No. 9163428)

what the establishment has figured out is that Tea Party/conservatives are not voting for whomever the repugs decide should be president or senator.

conservatives are no longer playing the game of voting AGAINST a democratic; they are starting to only vote FOR a candidate or not vote at all. Run another Dole, McCain, Bush or Romney and the repugs know they will lose.

This is where Rush and Hannity get it all wrong. they need to stop carrying the water for the repugs every election.



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Reply 23 - Posted by: FormerDem, 2/7/2013 10:14:28 AM     (No. 9163446)

It´s fascinating, and thank you, OP! Here is more gasoline for the fire! - it seems to me it is the "moderate" RINO wing of the GOP that is still marked with the GOP´s anti-Catholic heritage. It is the Tea Party that welcomes us.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 2/7/2013 10:24:12 AM     (No. 9163471)

I´ve never understood Rove´s reputation. He came darn close to losing 2000 and he hasn´t backed a winner since 2004. He can raise money but when it comes to framing a winning message it´s been pretty meh! Maybe it´s because he´s never quite made the transition from direct mail to social media.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: coyote56, 2/7/2013 10:26:26 AM     (No. 9163474)

Anyone (including Ldotters) who think a "Constitution or 3rd Party" could win over our degenerate brainwashed nation is dreaming big time! Republicans need a person who can talk straight to people & explain how our Republic was designed or maybe give a history lesson to brain dead "give me" people. He must have the type of personality people can associate with & not go into deep economic problems like Paul Ryan who I deeply respect. Even Americans with impressive educational papers will not keep their attention on long boring economic speeches. DeMint,Rubio,Palin,Bachmann,West,Barbour,Star Parker,Sowell,Crowley,Levin,Bolton,North,Liz Chaney,Hannity come to mind plus even Hume & Kraughtheimer are beginning to wake up. Herman Cain spoke so that people could understand & even Santorum began to build a platform speaking about FREEDOM & LIBERTY. Elites get buried in details. We need the Tea Party & patrioic speeches & II Chronicles 7:14!!!!!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: tisHimself, 2/7/2013 10:27:23 AM     (No. 9163479)

XXIV, at its core, you have identified the real unifiying truth of the antisocial republicans, i.e the not our kind, dear republicanism that in succession endorsed Rockefeller over Goldwater, Romney over Reagan in 68, Ford over Reagan in 76, Bush over Reagan in 1980, Bush over the Reagan legacy and Kemp in 1988....culminating in Romney this year. At least in this thread they have exposed themselves for the single issue voters they are so quick to blame. Abortion and making it available at every opportunity at government expense is now in some Orwellian way both limited government and conservative. Presumably gay marriage receives the same quiet, tacit approval.

This of course would leave practicing Catholics, Hispanics and Church going African Americans one more reason not to.

But they brag about their big tent.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Razorgirl, 2/7/2013 10:32:27 AM     (No. 9163490)

Note to FOX News: I change the channel when Rove comes on or hubbie requests I leave the room so I don´t throw a shoe through his flat screen.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: ramona, 2/7/2013 10:44:58 AM     (No. 9163513)

Thank you, Mr. Lord, for revealing the unrestrained vitriol of the GOP establishment (a la Jonathan Collegio). And those who practice rampant negativity against conservatives should certainly not be surprised when they feel a bit of that heat themselves.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Grambo, 2/7/2013 10:47:42 AM     (No. 9163515)

Mr. Buckley would heartily endorse this article and this thread. They give me hope.

Staff, please post as Must Read.

(Don’t be put off by the length.)


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Reply 30 - Posted by: thelmalou, 2/7/2013 10:52:27 AM     (No. 9163527)

Excellent article, Mr. Lord. Well done.


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Reply 31 - Posted by: privateer, 2/7/2013 11:38:27 AM     (No. 9163633)

Whenever I see KR on TV, I think of Pinky and the Brain: KR is the brain, the RNC lost-in-timers are Pinky. You know, like the theme song: one of them´s a genius, the other one´s insane.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: andromedastudio, 2/7/2013 12:05:56 PM     (No. 9163747)

Establishment Republicans are cowards and support Obama. Real republicans are ANTI OBAMA on all things and believe in the Constitution above all else.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: absalom, 2/7/2013 2:20:00 PM     (No. 9164060)

Many are getting it. The Republican Party
post-Lincoln never had anything to do w/principled conservatism; in the mold of Hume, Burke, De Maistre; among others. Never. The GOP has always been secular, progressive and corporatist. Always. It´s nominees since Andrew Johnson are mute testament to that reality.Rove is just another faddish hustler w/a jacket and tie.

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