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Karl Rove and the Cotton Conservatives
American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord

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Posted By:mikkins2, 2/6/2013 7:39:33 AM

Cotton, conscience, and Karl Rove. It’s time for a family discussion within the Republican Party. A serious conversation intended to be respectful conversation, and yes perhaps at times a tough-love kind of conversation. A conversation among friends. A conversation about politics, history, the Republican Party and America. Karl Rove, the former Bush 43 White House aide, has jump-started such a conversation with the announcement in the New York Times of the formation of something called “The Conservative Victory Project.” Described thusly in the Times:

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It is time to face the facts. The only goal and purpose of the Republican Establishment to feed off taxpayer money, pay off its heavy political donors, and resist any significant change to the way business is done in Washington D.C..

Many say J.F.K. would be a Republican in todays political climate. You could argue Reagan would be a Tea Party candidate in todays Republican Party, the very type of person Rove hopes to keep out of office.

Rove sure the hell isn´t no Reagan.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 2/6/2013 7:45:28 AM     (No. 9161134)

There´s one party in D.C. - incumbents trying hang onto power.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 2/6/2013 7:46:52 AM     (No. 9161138)

No one is required to send money to Rove´s group or to any other political group. At least he´s trying to do something. The OP says the purpose is to "resist any significant change", but do you really believe Karl Rove doesn´t want to take the Senate and solidify the GOP in the House? And to elect Republican state officials across the nation?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: mikkins2, 2/6/2013 8:00:31 AM     (No. 9161181)

#2
Yes, I really do believe that Rove and the Republican Establishment have no intention of limiting spending and shrinking government. An educated assessment based on the Republican Party recent historical record. Talk is cheap and eventually actions either prove you to be honest or fraudulent.

The one thing that all conservatives agree upon is the limitation of government and its spending. All other issues are secondary and personal. The Republican Party has failed on this basic conservative principle and refuses to change the status quo. Its purpose is now fully corrupted by Rove and his followers thus the end of the Republican Party as it exists now is near.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rolanddd, 2/6/2013 8:02:14 AM     (No. 9161186)

If you want to debate Rove on the future of the party then you either have to take on the plan he´s proposed and its intent - no more Aikens or Mourdouchs.

If you just want to stuff words in his mouth like the MSM then you´re basically doing an Alinksy on him.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: SourKraut, 2/6/2013 8:24:19 AM     (No. 9161236)

Fat Karl has just discovered that his Gravy Train is running down a dead end.

"quick, Peons", he bellows, "build me more track !!! "



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Reply 6 - Posted by: retiree, 2/6/2013 8:30:31 AM     (No. 9161250)

I am not an Obama fan and did not vote for him but I am getting tired of Rove always in your face and a know it all.
I don´t think he adds any contribution to the republican party.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/6/2013 8:36:13 AM     (No. 9161263)

I think the eastern establishment republicans will lead to a third party. I have no interest whatsoever in becoming the right wing of the democrat party.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jackie, 2/6/2013 8:50:48 AM     (No. 9161293)

I am not Rove´s biggest fan BUT.. I am also tired of the Tea Party people backing a candidate because he/she comes out saying.."I am against abortion"..after that it is Katie bar the door for the TP... I think there is a place for everyone but I do not want anymore candidates that talk about legal rape and witches and etc..I am tired of abortion being the #1 issue. I am against abortion too, but I also want my country back and dwelling on all things "below the waist" every freakin election isn´t going to do it..
The media/Dems back the Repubs in a corner every election ....war on women..birth control..abortion..NO MORE!!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/6/2013 9:00:22 AM     (No. 9161313)

Well said, #8.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: VAPMAN, 2/6/2013 9:01:25 AM     (No. 9161319)

I am a lifetime republican and I would like to see new people lead our party. I´m tired of RINO´s and and republican office holders too weak to stand up and fight for conservative principles. Rove has had his day and it is time for him to move out of the way. Let him raise money to give to republican primary winners not to try and choose the primary winners.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/6/2013 9:06:26 AM     (No. 9161338)

thank you for this great look at our history and documenting how we are again repeating history.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/6/2013 9:07:07 AM     (No. 9161339)

Architect of RINO land...

If he continues to diss the Tea Party folks he will end up on the outside. If the Tea Party stopped supporting any RINO the Rove clique will fall apart.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: billp, 2/6/2013 9:12:25 AM     (No. 9161362)

Well clearly, we´ve got ´Cotton Republicans´ aplenty here on Lucianne. The truth is, the Republican party is headed for a spit - and, as a life-long Republican, I will be on the fiscal and moral side of it. The Republican establishment is, as Mr. Lord has indicated, more about the Democrat goals of power, money and position than anything else and I, for one, will no longer support that. I yearn for the man who will do what´s best for these United States and our Constitution.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: noproblems, 2/6/2013 9:13:13 AM     (No. 9161364)

#4, 8 and 9, tell me again how the republicans are not as responsible as the Dimms for the $16 trillion in debt.

did you guys even read the article and can you refute it?



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Reply 15 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 2/6/2013 9:44:02 AM     (No. 9161430)

This article analogy is one if the most well done of all posts ... Wow!

Too bad the posters noted above did not let it sink in... if, indeed, they read it... Sorry #2... Must agree with #3... Go back and read the end of this article where Jeffrey Lord quotes Karl from his own book...

Signed: Not a Cotton Conservative

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Reply 16 - Posted by: TheMom, 2/6/2013 9:57:14 AM     (No. 9161461)

Thanks to Mr Lord for the history lesson; present days viewed through that context, it is easy to see how we are making the same moves now. #3 and I agree also. For every general election since Reagan, the establishment GOP hasn´t bothered to hide the fact that their aim is to maintain the status quo. Otherwise, why let Dole, McCain and Romney anywhere near a primary? The establishment GOP should just admit they consider themselves part of the ruling elite and change their Rs into Ds.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 2/6/2013 10:02:28 AM     (No. 9161479)

I say let the tea party turn its back on rove and his country club buddies who spent us into this obama regime. Rove is the problem, not the solution. Never any $ from me for the GOP.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 2/6/2013 10:13:20 AM     (No. 9161519)

This is a longish but exceedingly good analysis based on some very interesting political history.

Coming here to snipe without reading this article will deprive you of some valuable historical insight.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Okie 52, 2/6/2013 10:23:29 AM     (No. 9161552)

An excellent article worthy of reading and thoughtful consideration. I´ve worked with Karl Rove and know he believes he´s right. As the phrase goes, he´s not evil-he´s just wrong.

Republicans have to get back to their foundational issues and avoid the peripheral, like gays or immigration, which have always been there and always will. Shrinking the size of government addresses every important issue.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 2/6/2013 10:32:46 AM     (No. 9161583)

Wow, what an eye-opening article. Mr. Lord is a keeper of the flame.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: 4poster, 2/6/2013 11:20:54 AM     (No. 9161735)

I don´t cotton to Cotton Conservatives

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Reply 22 - Posted by: iamfree, 2/6/2013 12:32:06 PM     (No. 9161917)

I´m getting tired of the representation of Todd Akin (even on this thread) as a Tea Party candidate. He was not. He defeated the Tea Party candidate in the primary.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: absalom, 2/6/2013 4:28:57 PM     (No. 9162354)

#3.Mikkens is correct. Most grasp that the GOP has nothing to do w/principled conservatism and never did. Ever. Since 1870 the Party has been and remains secular, progressive and corporatist. A Conservative Republican is in the same category as a Catholic Muslim; ie, a fantasy. Bury the carcass.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/6/2013 4:38:01 PM     (No. 9162369)

I don´t see anyone who is criticizing the TEA party make note that first and foremost they are for LOWER taxes..
T axed
E nough
A lready..
and they are for SMALLER government and they are for family values..
Karl Rove is for Karl Rove. Does anyone really believe he gives a damn about the working man paying more taxes?

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