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Conservatives skeptical
of Rove’s new project

Washington Examiner, by Conn Carroll

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/4/2013 9:13:52 AM

If you are going to launch a new effort to shape the the Republican Party, The New York Times is probably not the best outlet to let break the news. But that is where news broke this weekend that some of “the biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts.” This new “Conservative Victory Project” is backed by Karl Rove’s American Crossroads 527 organization and its goal, according to Crossroads president Steven Law, “will be to

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That would be an understatement. One of Rove´s targets for "weeding out" is Steve King of Iowa?? Out.rageous!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 2/4/2013 9:29:23 AM     (No. 9157151)

I am very happy that ROve is at work on this, we have to have candidates that are appealing and if they are not exactly perfect, we have to support them and take away the senate and add to the house as many Pubbies as possible. Thank heavens for Karl.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Idaho Spud, 2/4/2013 9:29:40 AM     (No. 9157152)

Rove,McCain,Cristie are the face of the Republican party. Conservatives who percieve that they have a seat at the table are delusional. There is no difference between the Republican party and the Dems. Conservatives would have more luck transforming the CPUSA Demmocrats into conforming to their smaller government, Constitutional beliefs, and the individual over the state ideals, in fact better luck then continuing to serve as the lap dogs of the Republican machine. Instead of bailing out the GOP as in 2010 it would be best to let it die completely. Let the Dems have it all because in reality the two are the same anyway. A new "2nd" party might be structured with the core values of conservatives and the RINO´s could easily slide across the aisle where they would easily assimilate.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: kanphil, 2/4/2013 9:30:53 AM     (No. 9157154)

Skeptical is not a strong enough word. I am outraged.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: CEP, 2/4/2013 9:37:21 AM     (No. 9157170)

I am sick and tired of being painted as some far right crazy because I don´t like Rove and his so called ideas. I think Rove is out for Rove and could care less what happens to the country as long as his bank account is hefty. He uses then abuses.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/4/2013 9:42:33 AM     (No. 9157187)

I´m with #1. It´s time for us to be more discerning in our choice of primary candidates if we´re going to avoid more fiascoes of the O´Donnell or Todd Akin sort. I may not agree with Karl Rove all the time, but he raised a lot of money and made some terrific ads in 2012. There´s nothing to prevent those who don´t align with him from raising money and making ads, too.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/4/2013 9:48:58 AM     (No. 9157205)

This should strengthen the Tea Party as Rove is widely despised.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 2/4/2013 9:51:00 AM     (No. 9157210)

What´s the big deal about his announcing it in the New York Times? Where else could he reach liberal readers? This is not something Rove wants to keep secret. If he wanted to keep it secret from liberal readers he would have talked to a reporter from the Washington Times.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 2/4/2013 9:55:19 AM     (No. 9157222)

Rove as a spokesman for the Republican party shows what is wrong with the Republican party. The "good old boys" seem to be afraid of opening the tent & letting strong leaders & ideas have a chance at clawing their way to the top. The GOP seems to be satisfied to continue being Democrat "lite" & settling for the crumbs of power the Dems allow them in Washington DC.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rinktum, 2/4/2013 9:59:04 AM     (No. 9157243)

I agree that we should be more selective in those candidates we support. We need smarter more media savvy conservatives, but I am not sure that Mr. Rove´s definition of a conservative is the same as mine. It also offends me that he is using the title, "Conservative Victory Party". He is playing word games just like the progressives do. I doubt his party will be conservative or victorious. There is a deep divide in the Republican Party and it won´t be successful until one argument prevails. Hopefully, it won´t be won by the same wizards of smart who have brought us so many victories here lately.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: WAN2, 2/4/2013 10:01:14 AM     (No. 9157251)

The Democrat and Republican parties differ only in the speed with which we communize.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: sanchin, 2/4/2013 10:02:43 AM     (No. 9157260)

Hmmmm!!! I thought the Republican party was a Big Tent. Apparently, Conservatives are no longer welcome and being pushed out to make room for all the new members being recruited.

I am relieved to finally be done with the Republican Party. I grew up being taught that one is judged by the company that one keeps. Well, I choose to no longer be associated with the likes of Rove, McCain, Graham, and the rest of the Republican Elite. So long GOP. Please do not call or write.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum, 2/4/2013 10:04:01 AM     (No. 9157265)

Excuse me for second post. I meant to write Conservative Victory Project. Must have been a Freudian slip on my part although a Conservative Victory Party does have a certain ring to it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: luvamerica, 2/4/2013 10:04:44 AM     (No. 9157272)

I am a Conservative and want the Republican Party to be all the way conservative but it will take time and we have all got to do our little part in seeing that it happens. And so as Rove and his buddies want to keep their buddies in power so we must find the conservatives to run for office and must work for them and get out the vote for them.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chicodon, 2/4/2013 10:08:19 AM     (No. 9157289)

Rove and Fox are playing into Obama´s hands. A hopelessly fractured Republican party. I can´t even watch Fox anymore. Our only hope for awhile is to concentrate on the House. Rove will concentrate on the Senate. That´s where his big bucks are. Forget the Presidency. He will push a RINO and he will lose unless Obama implodes like Clinton.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 2/4/2013 10:09:29 AM     (No. 9157295)

What´s wrong with "Conservative Victory Party"? Surely you don´t believe Karl Rove is a wild-eyed liberal. The offense is not in Karl Rove´s creation of that title, but that there are some who believe they can decide who is "conservative". I don´t think any two of us would agree on the exact definition or identification. There is no Tea Party. There is, however, an abundance of people who believe themselves to be for smaller government and fewer taxes. We can probably all agree that those criteria meet a conservative label. Beyond that, I say the tent should be large enough for all of us who oppose the Democrats´ plans for the nation.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: tangles, 2/4/2013 10:10:03 AM     (No. 9157299)

That has-been can keep the rest of us from being never-was-es.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/4/2013 10:20:11 AM     (No. 9157319)

# - 1 His type of Conservative is a Dewherst--we don´t need those "elites" who are interested in themselves and filling their pockets with more coins.

The Romney group, I see, is supportive of the Rove agenda.

Perhaps it´s time to tell Rove that his endorsements in the 2014 campaign won´t be worth "snot", as he gleefully mentioned during a conversation on one of the evening Fox shows with reference to Gov. Palin.

Let´s recap: How many endorsements of Rove´s in 2012 was elected to office? Can´t recall ANY off-hand. Right now there are Senators in Congress thanks to the endorsement and campaigning/raising funds by Gov. Palin.



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Reply 18 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 2/4/2013 10:28:25 AM     (No. 9157341)

A recipe for oblivion. Whig Party II. Well, Rove & Co. will no doubt keep the Republican Party as their closely-held, personal private club. Expect a torrent of ineffectual, bland, cream cheese, deferential-to-leftists candidates, with the old bulls permanently cemented into their satrapies.

Bobby Jindal is right. The GOP is The Stupid Party.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: lil dotty, 2/4/2013 10:43:50 AM     (No. 9157374)

Rove lost me completely on election night when he lost it on Fox. Well, like obama I lie....Rove lost me mid several years ago. The little dough boy should save his money.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tisHimself, 2/4/2013 10:53:28 AM     (No. 9157398)

The usual suspects, black turtleneck and merlot, free shrimp republicans, deny the existence of the Reagan wing of the party, the antiBush sntiestablishment antiWashington underpinnings of the Teaparty movement and the successes of the 2010 elections. It wasn´t Rove that put Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz in the Senate, but he and his proteges certainly made a lot of money muting and destroying conservative discussions that would have framed the election much differently and set the table for the removal of Obama. But the country club republicans, content to lose as long as they are in charge persist in promoting longstanding liberal republicanism as conservative. BarBush´s palace guard is the flat earth society of the republican party.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 2/4/2013 10:56:45 AM     (No. 9157410)

I think Rove should change the name of his party to the Grand Ohfer Party.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dman, 2/4/2013 11:07:01 AM     (No. 9157435)

Constitutional conservatives face several problems. Rove and his allies have the reins of the GOP and wealthy backers. They also have a LSM that will shill for their candidates - at least until the primaries are over.

But Erickson, as quoted in the article, hit on a more fundamental problem: "Todd Akin should never have gotten the nomination, but tea party groups in Missouri were too divided to rally against him. " I spent many futile minutes at Tea Party meetings arguing that we must select our candidates before the primary elections, so as not to split our vote and allow someone we didn´t want to slip through. That ran against the mindset of many Tea Parties to deliberately not back particular candidates in the primaries. We´ve seen how that has worked out.

The Tea Party served its purpose in 2010. Because it didn´t adapt and make "half-time" adjustments, it was sidelined and ineffective in 2012. We need to take the next step. We need a new political party to provide the resources and focus to overcome the challenges that we face.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 2/4/2013 11:09:44 AM     (No. 9157444)

The GOP could have easily won at least 3 additional seats in the 2010 elections if they had chosen more wisely. Nevada was a piece of cake until they ran the very worst of the 3 candidates, politically speaking.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: coyote56, 2/4/2013 11:28:30 AM     (No. 9157496)

Come on Ldotters - no 3rd party unless you want to lose! We need to win the Senate & Texas did it right by electing Cruz & as you can see he & Rand Paul are raising Republican hell! Jindal,Cruz,Rand Paul,DeMint,Palin,West are all true to Constitutional Conservatism. We may have to settle for Rubio who can at least speak in language the "sheep" in this country can understand. We need a "gang" of Republican Govenors who can get together & explain what our Republic is all about. We need a big tent also with true conservative explanations about FREEDOM & LIBERTY to brainwashed America. Hillary is our enemy this time!!!!!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: tomishere, 2/4/2013 11:43:36 AM     (No. 9157542)

I believe the point being made is we lost two very easy seats this election by nominating two nuts Akin and Murduch. #15 in order for that to happen critical thinking would have to be employed. It´s much easier to think anyone I don´t agree with 100% is the devil, so sad so many of our own people are like that.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rakasha, 2/4/2013 12:02:15 PM     (No. 9157589)

Akin and Mourdock were not ´nuts´; they said stupid/unfortunate things and were pounced upon by the left-wing media just a few seconds faster than they were savaged by their own Party. If we´re going to talk about easy seats that were lost perhaps we should discuss the Presidency.

Oh wait, I forgot, that was also the fault of Conservatives. So let´s see, we are not allowed to nominate candidates, not allowed to vote for the candidates of our choice if they are not considered ´electable´ and if anyone loses, it is our fault. But we are a necessary part of the Party and not allowed to talk about going anywhere else. Did I just about cover it?

And please, can we give the ´purist´, ´don´t agree 100%´, ´my way or the highway´ memes a rest. They´re old, thin and see-through.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: tomishere, 2/4/2013 2:57:16 PM     (No. 9158005)

Maybe their not nuts, I guess their just fanatics, they lost two of the easiest senate seats.The TEA party in this case was hijacked by religious extremists. The TEA party was never about social issues, it was about economic issues, remember 2010 when we won 63 house seats.
As for the presidency was Romney the best candidate we ever had? no. But he was better than the anti-capitalist Gingrich and Perry and, and a better candidate then that zealot Santorum. for president we just didn´t have a lot of good choices. Romney was the best of a poor bench. Some of you should read more of Buckley´s work, he said choose the most conservative candidate possible, who can be elected. You´ll do this if your serious about saving your country.

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