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A Lesson From the Scouts´ Own Book
Wall Street Journal, by Nick Gillespie

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Posted By:MDMuskrat, 2/3/2013 11:48:19 AM

The Boy Scouts of America are in the news again, for the only thing they ever seem to be in the news for anymore: their attitudes toward homosexuals. Next week, the Scouts will hold a vote that´s widely expected to end the blanket ban on gays joining as members or holding adult leadership. By most accounts, the century-old organization will probably let individual chartering groups—many of which are churches—decide whether homosexuals can join and help run their troops.

Nick later points out that he kept his two sons from joining the scouts "because of the group´s position on gays". But he´s looking forward to next week´s vote allowing homosexuals to become members and "adult leaders," so he can happily see his grandkids join.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: BarryNo, 2/3/2013 11:59:31 AM     (No. 9155792)

I hope they vote it down. The only reason it´s being pushed is because a bunch of perverted pedophiles have fantasies of running a scout troupe ´their way´. As is usual, people outside of an organization are pushing to either change or destroy it, because of how successful it is.

If they want a scout troupe, make up their own!! Leave the Boy Scouts USA alone!!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 2/3/2013 11:59:34 AM     (No. 9155793)

Alright all you 8 year old`s about to join the Boy Scouts, get ready to attend a sexual harassment awareness class.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 2/3/2013 12:00:15 PM     (No. 9155794)

I wonder if he´d be so accepting of gay scout leaders if his grandkids are molested by a gay scoutmaster.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: DaddyO, 2/3/2013 12:08:37 PM     (No. 9155808)

What if Nick wanted to chaperone a group of 14 year old girls on an overnight camping trip, with no other adult supervision? How would the parents of the girls feel about that, Nick?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: melanie, 2/3/2013 12:21:31 PM     (No. 9155829)

Life isn´t all about sex. The time to be a child is so precious. We are cheating them of their innocence by letting activists put their own preferences (perversions?) at the center of everything. There´s nothing wrong with sex, it just shouldn´t be a predominant factor in childhood.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 2/3/2013 12:21:34 PM     (No. 9155831)

#3: I think fully-liberated Eagle Scout Gillespie would be alright with that. In fact, I daresay he wouldn´t see it as a molestation, but rather "a valuable lesson in alternative lifestyles." Hey Nick! Do you think they´ll ever have a merit badge for...?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 2/3/2013 12:24:33 PM     (No. 9155836)

I was with him clear up to the part where he said it was "morally straight" to accept "gays".

They´re not "gays", Nick. They´re homosexuals -- you know: perverts. There´s nothing "morally straight" about male on male anal sex.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: GKC fan, 2/3/2013 12:29:08 PM     (No. 9155851)

Wait til the law suits start in about a year if they do change their policy. We Catholics are still paying....

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Reply 9 - Posted by: TexasRose, 2/3/2013 12:42:50 PM     (No. 9155872)

Why shouldn´t we say it´s morally straight to accept gays - that is, in a day when freedom means enslavement, individual rights mean collectivism, investment means taxes, growing economy means recession - down means up, and good means evil!!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: AGGW, 2/3/2013 12:49:55 PM     (No. 9155880)

If their policy changes, the sound you hear next week will be my late husband rolling over in his grave. He was so proud of our son achieving Eagle that we buried him with his father´s eagle pin in his lapel.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kono, 2/3/2013 12:58:55 PM     (No. 9155891)

On my honor I will do my best
to do my duty
to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law,
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake,
and morally straight.

(emphasis mine)

If the Boy Scouts make this policy change, they will have to change their Scout Oath. And immeasurable damage will have been done to Americans´ traditional freedom to choose, freely, those with whom they wish to associate... and to establish the criteria for membership in clubs or groups of their own creation.

Make no mistake -- this is definitely tied with the recent trend in colleges to force religious groups (particularly Christian ones) to accept members from other religions, and to let them become officers (and even president) of those groups.

We can already tell, though, that efforts to create enclaves adhering to SHARIA will be treated with far more deference by ´progressives´ and the PC crowd.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: beth, 2/3/2013 1:06:05 PM     (No. 9155899)

So he considers his not allowing his sons to be involved because he doesn´t agree with their policy as being noble. However, if this policy passes and parents refuse to let their sons join he will consider those parents close minded. You can´t win with these people, they are a blight on our culture.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: happywarrior, 2/3/2013 1:06:06 PM     (No. 9155900)

They are going to have to change a lot more than just that #12. So sad.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 2/3/2013 1:19:23 PM     (No. 9155920)

No more money from me.
NRA gets another contribution.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Peacekeeper_US, 2/3/2013 1:50:49 PM     (No. 9155966)

Sir Baden Powell, their founder, has turned over in his grave!...so sad.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: EllaZella, 2/3/2013 1:50:59 PM     (No. 9155967)

The real issue is that those in power in our society refuse to allow the Scouts, a private organization, to maintain its traditional morality. They are insisting that we, as private citizens, may not place our boys in an organization that holds to traditional morals.

The organization that we want to place our boys in and participate in must change into something we don´t want -- or be destroyed.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: HPmatt, 2/3/2013 1:57:52 PM     (No. 9155975)

Just about the only institution not to be corrupted by the left now has enough marxists on the Board to destroy scouts - churches have gone, government has gone, press is gone 0 we´re just now down to ´We the people´ to stand up to the onward march of destruction and decay of the civil society that started in AMerica from true English Common Law.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: LudicrousSextus, 2/3/2013 2:00:33 PM     (No. 9155979)

One wonders if the BSA noticed - what a decade of GLSEN and ´gay-straight alliance´ clubs in schools from kindergarten on up have accomplished...

...which according to the latest CDC stats - is 1000 new adolescent to young adult males A MONTH added to the HIV roles.

So much for ´normal and healthy´, eh?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 2/3/2013 2:49:44 PM     (No. 9156056)

Seems I´m writing an awful lot of letters and Emails these days. Fired off a lengthy explanation to National Hqs why this is their worst idea ever, and why if they agree to it I and numerous other Eagle Scouts with whom I communicate will publicly destroy and return the Award, just as they have publicly destroyed the entity it (once) represented.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: woodsto sea, 2/3/2013 3:29:28 PM     (No. 9156105)

He didn´t let his kids join because quite simply he´s an Ass!!! All you have to know is that its been a constant struggle for scouting to keep out Adult homosexual who prey on children. Now Progressives want to make it open season on scouting youth. Why? to destroy Scouting.

When Scouting allows people on its Board that don´t believe in the Scouting oath it invites its own destruction.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: TLCary, 2/3/2013 3:41:03 PM     (No. 9156113)

Scouting is NOT a Wilderness Training/Military Prep Club. It is all about principals and building boys who are "morally fit", "reverent", all around good people.

The Camping, the Uniform, The Pine Wood Derby - are all activities to help reach that goal. Boys Scouts are a religious organization, not a camping organization.

(Or at least they were)

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Reply 22 - Posted by: BarryNo, 2/3/2013 3:58:40 PM     (No. 9156142)

Please note the article immediately following this one on Lucianne´s; It´s a good measure of how weird and depraved the people pushing this agenda can be.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: reilly, 2/3/2013 4:09:54 PM     (No. 9156160)

Pervert rights trump all.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 2/3/2013 4:47:10 PM     (No. 9156214)

Sexuality is what they need to ban, homo or otherwise. A person´s sexual preferences are not an issue if they don´t express them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Starlady, 2/3/2013 5:12:36 PM     (No. 9156248)

My son and I discussed this issue last night because his son just joined cub scouts this year. He will pull my grandson out because in the oath God comes first and this activity is not pleasing to God. He left the Lutheran Church when they approved gay Pastors. I agree with him and think this will be a decision that the Boy Scouts will regret should they approve. The Boy Scouts will go the way that the Girl Scouts went years ago.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lavalette, 2/3/2013 5:19:48 PM     (No. 9156257)

The Wall Street Journal. The Corporate crony capitalism types are completely sucked into this anti-christian madness that´s going on today. They would prefer to be ruled by the communists of the Democratic Party than be asociated with the social conservatives in their own party.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 2/3/2013 5:34:54 PM     (No. 9156273)

In addition to the great comments above, I´ll throw some more at Mr. GIllespie.

If it´s all about "adaptability", why not NAMBLA members be allowed to join? How about female scoutmasters who have no outdoors experience, but feel they should have the job anyways? How about cross-dressers? How about admitting kids who don´t want to camp but instead want to play flag football all day where "everyone is a winner"?

Absurd? Not any more absurd than admitting gays into a boys program involving alone time with minimal supervision, young impressionable kids, and men who build their whole identities around their penis.

What could go wrong there?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: dittohead, 2/3/2013 6:44:43 PM     (No. 9156346)

I am really tired of sexual preference being thrown in my face all the time. I actually don´t care what you do in your own bed rooms, just keep it to yourself - but this is tragic. I think this is a big mistake for many reasons but the greatest is exposing our sons to predators, which we know will be joining for this very reason.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Japanorama, 2/3/2013 8:14:39 PM     (No. 9156434)

No homosexual experiments with my children.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: oh-heck, 2/3/2013 9:26:22 PM     (No. 9156552)

In all the discussion of his time in Scout, there was not a mention of sexual activity. That is because there is none. The Boy Scout Handbook begins with a parent´s guide to Abuse. The Scoutmasters are trained to never be alone with a scout. There must always be 2 adults present. Why put sexuality into the picture? The atheists also avoid the Scouts because of the mention of God in the Scout oath and the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 2/3/2013 9:40:25 PM     (No. 9156565)

#32, the mention of God in the Scout oath will be the next thing they attack. Just wait and see.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: LanieLou, 2/3/2013 11:31:17 PM     (No. 9156691)

Destruction of Christianity & the family unit are high on the agenda for progressives. Promoting homosexuality is a fast track tactic to destroy both. When you have no guiding principles or personal roots, you are a slave, to be used by evil doers. Pray for us.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Twiggy, 2/4/2013 1:29:32 AM     (No. 9156773)

It´s disgusting they are even considering changing their rules. Haven´t we had homos infiltrating every fiber of our being at every turn. Enough is enough. Why is sex being so exploited from young children, our churches, employment, government. Get out of my face.They are not a special group of people just because of who they choose to sleep with.

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