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The French are winning handily in Mali
Christian Science Monitor, by Dan Murphy

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Posted By:TrikiTriki, 2/1/2013 4:05:08 PM

Some frankly silly thoughts and ideas have been punctured in the past few days about France´s invasion of Mali. Most importantly, that the French military effort to roll back the advance of salafy jihadis who had captured much of the north of the country, bringing a reign of amputations and torture to locals for what they deemed violations of Islamic law, would turn into a repeat of Dien Bien Phu, where French forces were defeated by a 45,000 man Viet Minh army backed by both China and the Soviet Union.

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With no press corp following and criticizing every move it´s easy for any western power to win a war.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: wsdiego, 2/1/2013 4:34:14 PM     (No. 9152915)

Wonders never cease!


Reply 2 - Posted by: Alpha91c, 2/1/2013 4:35:12 PM     (No. 9152917)

The French are not going to permanently garrison Mali. When they move out, the Islamist will move right back in. Islam has been fighting a jihad against Western Europe and Christians constantly since the seventh century. Sometimes they have centuries of retreat and sometimes centuries of advancement, but they always come back.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: KTWO, 2/1/2013 4:48:49 PM     (No. 9152930)

Good article and good news.

The jahadis are not native in Mali. The people have no more reason to help them than to help the French or their own government.

And in their short reign the jahadis gave the locals very good reasons to dislike them.

But the jahadis will be back. And they will know more about what works against the French. I think central Africa will be chaotic for a long time.

The Islamist arab states control the northern tier and blacks the rest. But neither is one united in a bloc. Dozens of nations are involved.


Reply 4 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 2/1/2013 4:57:09 PM     (No. 9152942)

The French are joined by thousands of troops from Nigeria, Niger, Chad, and Mali itself, with the African Force slated to grown to 5,800 with Nigeria heading that force. The French stated at the outset they would pullout of this UN sancdtioned action and allow the African Force deal with long term peace enforcement and peace keeping. The critical question is whether that force will be designated a UN force or an African Union force, with the difference being all the human rights and negotiating b.s. that comes with a UN operation versus the resolve to drive the jihadits into the sea approach of an African force that is local in nature...


Reply 5 - Posted by: TXknitter, 2/1/2013 5:08:58 PM     (No. 9152962)

Dozens of nations are indeed helping BUT I still give them credit for doing something.


Reply 6 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 2/1/2013 5:17:20 PM     (No. 9152976)

Absolutely right, #5, they deserve the major credit for acting and acting decisively, forcing the UN and Western powers to play catch-up. Near as I can tell, Zero & PIAPS dilly dallied for 10 months in a failed attempt to get the Algerians to lead an African force...France could wait no longer, moved in, and the others quickly turned to the reliable stand-by Nigeria to head up a team and supply 3,000 of its troops...France gets it gold from Mali and uranium for its nuclear industry from Niger so they couldn´t allow AlQaeda to become firmly entrenched...


Reply 7 - Posted by: razorx22, 2/1/2013 7:06:11 PM     (No. 9153136)

They will win till they leave.
Then they lose.

´the west has the clocks, but we have the time.....´ - your local jihadi


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Detachment Charlie, 2/1/2013 7:55:37 PM     (No. 9153190)

Poorly written and possibly misleading. The only description of the French military force never distinguishes between the French Army and the French Foreign Legion. The "French" never fought or lost at Dien Bien Phu; it was the Legion. I discovered this with shocked surprise upon landing in Vietnam in 1968. The Legion is an elite fighting force, recognized worldwide. The capabilities of the French Army are also known worldwide.


Reply 9 - Posted by: bumbleshorts, 2/2/2013 5:32:07 AM     (No. 9153626)

I am happy for the French. They need the Mali gold, what with the Germans removing all of their gold from French accounts and ironically the Mali uranium is urgently needed to fuel French nuke reactors to sell electricity to the Germans who foolishly decided to power their economy with windmills. Bonus round: Mali has diamonds and other valuable mineral deposits. When things get too hot for the French, let the African Union deal with the Mali rebels, or even better, let American troops clean up the mess just like Viet Nam.

In all fair play, this really was a pretty clever move by france. Make no mistake, France does not care what happens to Mali any more than it cared about Libya (France did care about Libian oil contracts) but more importantly, France knows that America is now so politically insignificant that France can do whatever they like without American interferance...like the interferance that stopped France and England from controlling the Suez canal...oh, it just occurs to me, Egypt is in turmoil, maybe France can now sieze the Suez canal. Looks like "spring time for france".



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