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Topic: Citizenship question roils both
parties as immigration
debate gets underway |
Citizenship question roils both
parties as immigration
debate gets underway
Washington Post, by Peter Wallsten and Rosalind S Helderman
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 1/31/2013 11:01:43 PM
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| Rising tensions over whether to give illegal immigrants a chance to pursue full citizenship could ruin what President Obama and congressional leaders agree is a pivotal moment in resolving long- simmering problems in the country’s immigration system. Immigrant advocates and their Democratic allies insist that now, at long last, is their time. After various failed proposals over the past decade, they finally feel they have the leverage to accept nothing less than a path to full citizenship for the millions of people living illegally in the country.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
John c, 1/31/2013 11:14:26 PM (No. 9151591)
Fish Rot from the Head! No amnesty for obama.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Philipsonh, 1/31/2013 11:18:12 PM (No. 9151593)
Living ILLEGALLY is the key phrase. If they had applied for citizenship LEGALLY, then maybe they would already be U>S> citizens.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bighambone, 2/1/2013 2:01:45 AM (No. 9151705)
Enforcement must come first and there should not be a special path to citizenship for illegal aliens.
What Republicans should support is a conditional immigration status for longtime illegal aliens who have no criminal record. That status should allow the qualified illegal aliens to live here indefinitely as long as they abide by US laws, should include employment authorization, protection under all US laws, and authorization to travel to and from the USA.
If an alien holding the conditional status wants to go further towards permanent resident alien status (a green card) that alien should be required to qualify for an immigrant visa just like all legal immigrants must do. After attaining permanent residence the alien must attain five years residence in the USA just like all other legal immigrants generally must do and only then should the alien be qualified to petition for naturalization, which if granted confers US citizenship.
You better believe that most illegal aliens would jump at the chance to get such a conditional immigration status.
Former President of Mexico Vicente Fox used to advise that the vast majority of Mexicans living and working in the USA illegally are very proud of being Mexicans and just want the ability to work here with dignity, and to be able to travel back and forth to Mexico. A conditional status would give them all that.
Obama and the liberal Democrats want a streamlined path to citizenship for just about all illegal aliens, maybe between 11 and 20 million, because they know that most would readily become Democrat voters. If the Republicans ever give the Democrats the political cover to pass what Obama is demanding, they would be committing long term political suicide, as the Democrats could garner probably 10 million new voters after such a liberal amnesty.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
NotaBene, 2/1/2013 2:12:00 AM (No. 9151707)
Hispanics will vote for big government to get freebies. To get their vote it is not just Amnesty, you would have to vote them more welfare, FoodStamps, Obamaphones, etc etc. Amnesty is a loser for Republicans. Go with Jan Brewer and Sheriff Arpaio on this one.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
nonsense, 2/1/2013 9:33:59 AM (No. 9152123)
We cannot afford 20-30 million more "Americans" on the Welfare Rolls. We are bankrupt. Surely even the Demonrats do not think that we can afford this influx of "takers".
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
saguni, 2/1/2013 3:38:28 PM (No. 9152853)
FTA: Some liberals wondered whether the new commission would empower conservatives like Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) to complicate the citizenship process.
Complicate the citizenship process???
The citizenship process currently is very straightforward...you live in another country, you go to the local office of the US Consulate, and you fill out an application for an immigration visa. Easy-peasy, simple to do, all legal and above board.
What we have here are a bunch of co-conspirators advocating for an easier "path" for their co-conspirators to violate the letter and spirit of a plethora of our laws. Illegal entry, check. Identity theft for employment and benefits, check. DUI and driving without a license or insurance, oftentimes check. Taking a job that a legal immigrant or American would do if it were available, check. Taking welfare, food stamps and medical in the place (or ahead) of a needy American citizen, oftentimes check.
One cannot say that every criminal alien invader does every item on the above list, but all too many people willing to ignore one law, will also ignore all other laws when convenient.
Are we a nation of laws as I was told as a child, or are we so morally weak that we need criminal co-conspirators tell us what language we are allowed to use when referring to people who have not obeyed our laws, because it "hurts their self-esteem"?
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