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Topic: Strict Gun Laws in Chicago Can’t Stem Fatal Shots |
Strict Gun Laws in Chicago Can’t Stem Fatal Shots
New York Times, by Monica Davey
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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/30/2013 5:46:13 AM
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| CHICAGO — Not a single gun shop can be found in this city because they are outlawed. Handguns were banned in Chicago for decades, too, until 2010, when the United States Supreme Court ruled that was going too far, leading city leaders to settle for restrictions some describe as the closest they could get legally to a ban without a ban. Despite a continuing legal fight, Illinois remains the only state in the nation with no provision to let private citizens carry guns in public.And yet Chicago, a city with no civilian gun ranges and bans
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
pineledger, 1/30/2013 6:03:48 AM (No. 9147773)
You´ve got a crisis, Rahm. What are you going to do about it?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
GringoinQuito, 1/30/2013 6:16:43 AM (No. 9147783)
It´s not the guns stupid! It´s the feral animals inhabiting Chicago, the lack of strong family ties, fathers, education. That´s the problem!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
JimS, 1/30/2013 6:30:27 AM (No. 9147805)
How many thugs, caught with an illegal firearm, actually do prison time? Very few, I´m sure. Yes, the causes are many-- gangs, rotten education system, lack of family structure and father-figure. But, not enforcing the laws on the books and not sentencing perps to hard jail time is the biggest single cause of the huge murder rate in Chicago. Compare Chicago´s violent crime rate and homicide rate to NYC, where the police employ Stop and Frisk to find the perps with guns and seize them, and judges at least give some jail time.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
provide, 1/30/2013 6:35:34 AM (No. 9147812)
The Chicago Police Department are useless parking enforcers. The superintendent is a joke. If you´re downtown. carry an ice pick in your sleeve.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DW626, 1/30/2013 6:48:19 AM (No. 9147827)
Don´t want to waste waste it...#1!!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jed, 1/30/2013 6:58:06 AM (No. 9147840)
I guess some people are meant to be slaves.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
mominNoCA, 1/30/2013 7:02:54 AM (No. 9147849)
Yes, but gang and drug shootings in urban areas don´t count, at least according to the US Attorney General and Justice Dept.
No, only the random mass shootings by crazy white young men should be counted in the statistics used to argue the case for gun control. We wouldn´t want to contradict our betters and our Dear Reader, would we?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
VeteranAmerican, 1/30/2013 7:09:35 AM (No. 9147863)
The good thing is that these animals are killing each other. The bad thing is that they are also killing innocents because they don´t know how to shoot straight. When they come out to the burbs we arrest them.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jinx, 1/30/2013 7:14:20 AM (No. 9147874)
It´s not the guns, stupid, it is the people who use them. If they put 10 guns on a table and no one picked them up, aimed them, and shot someone, then the guns would remain quietly on the table. It is the evil people who use them that are the problem. Rahm needs to get a handle on the gangs and the streets at night in Chicago unless he wants them to kill each other off. We as a nation need to do something about the mentally ill and the fatherless families who produce these lawless gangs.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
skedaddle, 1/30/2013 8:56:51 AM (No. 9148069)
It´s the people who live there and the politicians who let them behave like animals without sufficient consequences. My city is in 3 different counties - 1 county has the urban and the other 2 counties have the suburbs. Criminals get a rude awakening sometimes when they commit a string a burglaries in the suburbs and find themselves facing 10-15 years in jail instead of 10-15 days max. I suggest Chicago start putting criminals in jail and keeping them there - it works surprisingly well.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
spincut, 1/30/2013 9:21:55 AM (No. 9148149)
As 2nd amendment patriots begin to get some media traction, as they point out how stringent gun control in Chicago results in a mega-murder rate, the NYT responds in damage control mode. It´s not gun control´s fault Chicago is a war zone, it´s because we don´t have enough gun control in the rest of Illinois! Gun control must be statewide.... nationwide... worldwide....
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
yatahay, 1/30/2013 9:31:31 AM (No. 9148173)
What we need is a real live Paul Kersey.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
jimK1, 1/30/2013 9:49:33 AM (No. 9148214)
What we need are politicians that can think of something other than themselves and the power they hold/want. What we need are "We the People" to be in charge again.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bradcro, 1/30/2013 9:55:17 AM (No. 9148225)
We need to ban guns nationwide, not just individual cities. Be as strict as we are on drugs---oh,wait......
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
killerbee, 1/30/2013 10:10:56 AM (No. 9148274)
What I see in response to people who point this out is "yeah, all the guns are coming in from Indiana and Wisconsin!"
Hm. The per capita gun crime stats in those two states that have looser gun laws are ... wow ... a lot lower than Illinois.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
4poster, 1/30/2013 10:15:31 AM (No. 9148287)
So the NYT admits that strict gun control laws don´t work in Chicago. Their answer? Do more of the same.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
jimmiet, 1/30/2013 11:02:28 AM (No. 9148427)
More dumb laws to frustrate, criminalize and victimize law abiding citizens on a nationwide scale are evidently what is needed.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
AltaD, 1/30/2013 11:03:22 AM (No. 9148430)
The NY Times and those they quote claim that the gangbangers are using guns stolen and/or purchased in the suburbs, IN and WI. So if guns are the problem and guns are easily had elsewhere, then why aren´t the murder rates in those towns and states higher than Chicago´s?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Objectivity, 1/30/2013 11:14:35 AM (No. 9148470)
Hadiya Pendleton ..... the innocent 15 year old girl .. may she rest in peace and her family find comort somewhere ....
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
redwhite&blue2, 1/30/2013 4:26:11 PM (No. 9149126)
Theyre not too bright (stoopid) , they´re very violent, they dont like society or conforming, they´re animal-like, and they are African.....So they join gangs, steal guns, break the law repeatedly, and kill innocent people. Liberals like to coddle them. And hide things about them... Me? I say, hang ´em high ,or electrocute them promptly! An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.....If the word got around that they would fry for murder, maybe they´d stop. Cops are busy being glorified baby-sitters for stoopid gang-banging monkeys...Enough!
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