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Up to 11 million illegal residents
to be granted U.S. citizenship
under new deal hammered out by
bipartisan Senate group

Daily Mail [UK], by Michael Zennie

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/28/2013 1:42:01 PM

A gang of eight Republican and Democratic senators has hammered out an immigration reform deal that could allow 11million illegal immigrants to gain legal status and, eventually, American citizenship. The agreement includes strict enforcement measures like stepped up border security and visa exit tracking that must go into effect before any illegal residents are given official status. The plan is endorsed by conservative newcomers Marco Rubio, of Florida, and Jeff Flake, of Arizona, as well as liberal veterans Charles Schumer, of New York, and Dick Durbin, of Illinois. The senators hope that the broad range of political

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It won´t take effect until border security is "tigtened" and it will allow more low skill workers into the country???? Just what we need. s/o This will never make it through the House and then the Republicans will be called racists. What goes on in Washington these days is an unmitigated disaster, doesn´t solve anything and creates more problems. Nothing is mentioned about chain migration.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/28/2013 1:46:18 PM     (No. 9144464)

Another federal govn disaster waiting to happen. How much will the `pork barrel stimulus bill` amount to for this coming fiasco?

Our govn - building Bridges to Oblivion

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Reply 2 - Posted by: canuckchopper, 1/28/2013 1:47:31 PM     (No. 9144468)

As a legal resident, but not a citizen (yet), I´m immensely unhappy with this mockery of the law.
Any politician who voted in favor of this would not get my support. Ever.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: veritas, 1/28/2013 1:51:24 PM     (No. 9144485)

This country does not belong to eight Senators, nor do they have any right -- or authority -- to give it away.

Had enough?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: nevernaught, 1/28/2013 1:54:08 PM     (No. 9144491)

You people in Arizona who re-elected McCain should start recall action now. The man is a liar.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 1/28/2013 1:55:14 PM     (No. 9144494)

FTA: The agreement includes strict enforcement measures like stepped up border security and visa exit tracking that must go into effect before any illegal residents are given official status.

Riiiiiight.

There won´t be any control of the border line, and every body knows it. Plus, the 11 million number is very low end. It´s more like 25-30 million. American citizens have been sold out by the elitist hypocrite members of the ruling class.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: kiltedone, 1/28/2013 2:09:14 PM     (No. 9144532)

Brand new Democrat voters. Soon they won´t have to steal the election anymore.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/28/2013 2:10:59 PM     (No. 9144538)

Blackout on the Drudge Report. Rubio must have gotten to him to. It´s game over time for the GOP.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Jonr, 1/28/2013 2:11:40 PM     (No. 9144540)

We, the People have abdicated control of our country to a "gang" of ruling elites who stay in office in perpetuity! Without term limits on Congress, we don´t have a prayer of regaining control of our destiny!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/28/2013 2:16:34 PM     (No. 9144555)

My grandparents (both sides) came through Ellis Island 100 years ago.
They worked hard to assimilate into the American culture.
The illegal Mexicans here now refuse to assimilate, flout not only the immigration law, but others..DUI, rape, murder, theft, identity theft.They refuse to learn English and expect US to press 1 for English. They demand our resources to educate their children, and provide free medical care and school lunches.
They worship La Raza and make demands on the citizenry.
Throw them OUT, do not reward bad behavior and law breaking.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 1/28/2013 2:20:08 PM     (No. 9144567)

The Republicans just gave this country away.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Roll Tide, 1/28/2013 2:25:13 PM     (No. 9144584)

These people KNEW they were breaking the law when they came into this country illegally and stayed. Send ´em all back. --And the children who are also here illegally--why should they be allowed to stay either? It´s said that they shouldn´t be punished for their parents´ breaking the laws. Why not? What is the saying in the Bible about generations paying for the sins of their fathers for 7 generations? Why SHOULDN´T families be broken up because one of the parents broke the law? Sounds harsh, but maybe it would cause fewer people to BREAK the laws if they knew that was what would happen.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: nimby, 1/28/2013 2:26:15 PM     (No. 9144592)

8 senators do not represent the entire country. Why do we have to elect 100, if only 8 have a say-so in the matter?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: joew9, 1/28/2013 2:28:16 PM     (No. 9144597)

The Republicans agree to allow residency for 11 million and in return the Democrats promise to lie once again that they will enforce the boarder.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: the maggster, 1/28/2013 2:55:17 PM     (No. 9144648)

Guess I misinterpreted Rubio´s immigration plan. I thought he said America needed and desired skilled workers. Illegal immagrants now living in our country would be given work permits. Any illegal who committed a serious crime would be deported. Those here now would not immediately become citizens and would not be eligible to vote or take advantage of benefits that American citizens enjoy. In order to eventually become American citizens, supposedly years away, these illegals would have to go to the end of the line and perform certain requirements as there are others from many different countries in line ahead of them. Fairness needs to be a priority. None of this would be done until the border is secured. He didn´t say how. I don´t remember anything being said about chain migration. I hope all the aunts, uncles, grandmothers, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc., will not be allowed to enter the U.S. We could have upwards of 50 million non-assimilating immigrants. Americans really need to wake up..their standard of living and way of life is being attacked. Our Constitution is being ignored and we have an authoritarian President who has no respect for the rule of law. If anything, one would think Americans would fight for the future of their children. Why are so many so accepting? When there are no more unemployment payments or foodstamps, when more businesses are closed by unelected bureacrats and the end of what is the best medical care in the world ceases and an oppressive "big brother" Government takes control of our lives, curtails our liberties..then this great nation called America will no longer be. Only the memories of citizens of a certain age will be left to tell the tale of what it was like to be truly free.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: frenesi1, 1/28/2013 3:03:00 PM     (No. 9144670)

Rubio lost my vote. Not that he cares.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Browneyes, 1/28/2013 3:19:03 PM     (No. 9144701)

Rubio has decided to become as mccain. He seems to be very concerned about his political future and perhaps he needs 11 million future votes to run for President as did his mentor,mcain. And will lose, because by that time,Hillary will have learned to speak Spanish.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Penney, 1/28/2013 3:32:09 PM     (No. 9144720)

No! No! No! ...We remember when the devious beltway dem pols pulled this trick last time in the 1980s! They PROMISED then, ´´Never again!´´ ...´´One-time-only amnesty would fix EVERYTHING!´´ The dem pols would, ´´NEVER,´´ again even think of, much less legislate, amnesty again!

However, the current power-crazed conniving dem pols are apparently emboldened enough to try ANY radical statist policy during 0bama´s tenure, so yet again, they are plotting to but water-down & demean the precious value of each American´s legal, ´´USA Citizenship,´´ with the inclusion of millions of votes of ILLEGAL aliens?!!! There is no longer any thought of the once required assimulation into American culture and traditions as the dem pols bulldoze, ´´FORWARD!´´

Boomtown´s gang is now proceeding like Lucy in Peanuts, pulling Charlie Brown´s football away YET AGAIN!!! How gullible is the GOP if its leaders fall for this con again? mmm mmm mmm

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/28/2013 3:34:54 PM     (No. 9144729)

Best case scenario:

Once they become citizens, they don´t need the "protection" of the Dems.

They´ll get jobs, pay taxes, succeed, become wealthy and Republicans.



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Reply 19 - Posted by: reilly, 1/28/2013 3:35:58 PM     (No. 9144732)


What happened to our country? Crime pays, the nasty Dims win, and honest people and go to hell.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/28/2013 3:37:56 PM     (No. 9144733)

It didn´t work 30 years ago, why should it work now?? Stupid!!!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 1/28/2013 3:44:53 PM     (No. 9144743)

This is a joke. As others have said, it didn´t work in 1986, and it won´t work now.

When people came through Ellis Island, they had to promise that they would not become a burden to society--they had to have some sort of support in this country until they got on their feet. If they were sick, they were denied entry. And they got a job quickly, because they had to. Those sorts of conditions are gone now. How many lawbreakers will just become wards of the state?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JimJr, 1/28/2013 3:50:16 PM     (No. 9144754)

My "Path Way to Citizenship" for illegal immigrants:

1. Go home (to your country of origin).

2. Apply for a visa.

3. Apply for permanent resident status.

4. Apply for Citizenship.

(Just like everyone else.)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/28/2013 3:57:00 PM     (No. 9144770)

11 Million more Dim voters? Not really, they already vote, look at the last election.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/28/2013 3:57:50 PM     (No. 9144773)

Let´s look at some facts. Since records have been kept, the GOP has never even come close to winning the Hispanic vote:
1980 + 21% Democrat advantage over GOP
1984 +24% D advantage despite Reagan amnesty)
1988 +39% D advantage
1992 +36% D advantage
2000 +27% D advantage
2004 +18% D advantage
2008 +36% D advantage
2012 +46% D advantage

Latin America is comprised of many countries. How many right of center leaders can you name? Any? 11 million is definately on the low end because its a government estimate. This round of amnesty will bring in more like 25 million. And after that, bring on the next round of illegals. Time for Teh Stupid Party to go bye bye.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/28/2013 4:09:15 PM     (No. 9144787)

I left out 1996: 51% dem advantage. Source: pewhispanic.org

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ktwo, 1/28/2013 4:11:17 PM     (No. 9144789)

The illegals will get every benefit in the bill,

OTOH those enforcement provisions such as visa tracking and border security will not be enforced at all.

But since enforcement is supposed to come first the government will just lie and say that has been done. Expect it about two months before the 1914 elections. They will just have time to register to vote.

It really doesn´t matter. Washington couldn´t be bothered for decades when the problem was small and easily controlled. Now they are just passing another useless law.





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Reply 27 - Posted by: august9, 1/28/2013 4:41:02 PM     (No. 9144858)

While I am firmly against this, if it happens, I have three quick thoughts.....

1) It gets capped at eleven million, NOT eleven million & one.

2) Every one of them will be required to file a 1040, and NOT allowed to claim an EIC.

3) There will be no future allowances for "family" members who have not yet come here.

Please feel free to add additional requirements.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: nevernaught, 1/28/2013 4:57:10 PM     (No. 9144911)

Eleven million huh, I guess this just covers California.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Judith, 1/28/2013 5:00:56 PM     (No. 9144919)

Remember the old attitude of U.S. citizens? The can do attitude? Well, meet the can´t party calling themselves republicans. They can´t make this country safe, they can´t control themselves or the government, they can´t help taking our money and spending it wantonly, they can´t help partying on. I say we get rid of the can´t party.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/28/2013 5:24:58 PM     (No. 9144965)

In the history books, this will be noted as the exact moment when the US became a one-party state. Republicans have sold out for mexican votes. Shame, shame, shame. Everybody else in the country, welcome to Santa Ana, California.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/28/2013 5:37:53 PM     (No. 9144991)

#24 - supposedly the single poll showing W closing the Hispanic gap (your +18%) in 2004 was an outlier. Other evidence shows that W´s 2004 Hispanic performance was not much different from his 2000 result. Unfortunately that one poll sufficiently confused the man into gambling the rest of his political capital in pushing an amnesty bill in the summer of 2007 not just once but twice.

His approval numbers dropped sharply in that summer and never came back.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 1/28/2013 5:44:45 PM     (No. 9145011)

When, not if, this finally happens, there will no longer be a two party system in this nation. The takeover by the Socialists/Communists will be complete.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 1/28/2013 6:45:25 PM     (No. 9145086)

#32, you are correct. Socialist, communist and democrat all have the same definition... adherence to and belief in communist principals. Think Zerobama for starters.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/28/2013 6:52:08 PM     (No. 9145097)

The politicians proposing this change to immigration law and amnesty are the same eight who always show up when someone talks up another amnesty.

Nobody knows how many illegal aliens are here. Obama´s media water carriers propaganda says 11 million, but in reality there may be 20 million.

Once legalized they would start bringing huge numbers of their foreign relatives here. That would accelerate more once they were granted US citizenship. The Liberal Democrats know that most will be Democrat voters in the years ahead, and would not be pushing a path to citizenship and voting rights for them if they ever thought that those mostly poor and uneducated people would ever have an epifinany and vote for conservative Republicans.

Most will get on government financed social welfare programs on a massive scale and be politically beholden to the liberal Democrats for giving them access and expanding those programs.

The Democrats will register those people by the millions of vote as soon as they can. With that many new voters the Democrats will be able to change the political balance of the country and keep the stupid party from ever again winning national elections. The end result of this exercise will be long-term political suicide for the Republicans!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 1/28/2013 7:22:51 PM     (No. 9145137)

How exactly are half Demon-RATS and half RINO´s in any way considered ´´bipartisan´´?!?!?!?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: bob913, 1/28/2013 7:57:14 PM     (No. 9145193)

Don´t the taxpayers have anything to say about it?

There are people pulling the strings and it ain´t the republicans or democrats. Some group is undermining this country and the republicans are only too happy to go along with it!!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Lt.Mom, 1/28/2013 8:17:21 PM     (No. 9145222)

And you thought Social Security was in trouble already. Just you wait...

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Penney, 1/28/2013 8:34:14 PM     (No. 9145232)

Seal the border FIRST. Enforce existing Immigration Law. ...That is not such a difficult remedy to understand. ...This current rule of law policy would work, but that is apparently the problem to the Boomtown gang.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: bob913, 1/28/2013 10:22:10 PM     (No. 9145367)

I heard today on the radio that it is 2 republicans. The only remaining 2 that voted for amnesty the last time which they ticked off many conservatives and voted out many so called republicans.

Nothing bi partisan about this. This is a back room deal with obama asking for more and the compromise will be 11 million illegals being given amnesty. Each illegal will be allowed to bring in 5 members of their family - before yoy know it there will be 100 million Mexicans and our country will be gone.

Traitors McCain! Marco Rubio! Lindsey Graham! Jeff Flake!



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Reply 40 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/28/2013 11:50:16 PM     (No. 9145452)

This is such beeS. I live in a sea of brown in various shades. I don´t know any poor immigrants out of work. They have jobs and work for cash while the women have more kids and ask for social services. If you have never looked at the application for welfare, you should.

Agriculture ? What a joke. Here they are told working in ag is beneath them and are encouraged to either go to a tech school and get a stipen, or if they have ever paid taxes, sign up for disability from working in the fields for ten seconds.

Expecting them to sign up to pay taxes is a joke. Even more women will be filing tax forms for child credits on taxes however.

Those professionals with degrees will take even more jobs from the highly educated here still looking for work like the engineer´s wife who told Zippy her husband needed a job.

I will venture even further to say the gang of eight live in gated communities and haven´t a clue what the real world looks like.


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But Seriously, Just How
Slow-Witted is John Boehner?

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Posted By: quantumman- 4/21/2014 7:22:21 AM     Post Reply
As he moves from lobbyists to the golf course, from press conferences to the tanning bed, he remains oblivious to all that is around him. He has power, incredible power, and yet to this day he has no understanding of the election that made it so. Moreover, all around him are astonishing opportunities for him to be an historic figure -- one who could and should be the man who did more than any other single person in turning back the red tide of Obama. It’s all there for Speaker of the House, and yet John Boehner manages to miss


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