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Rise of ´white flight´: British families
are ´self-segregating´ as more
Caucasians abandon urban
areas for the countryside

Daily Mail [UK], by Emma Reynolds

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 1/27/2013 10:53:09 AM

Britain is ´self-segregating´ as white families flee urban areas for the countryside and outer suburbs. The trend is causing an ´ethnic cliff´, in which the proportion of households from minority backgrounds is vastly different in areas just a few miles apart. Some outer London boroughs--including Enfield, Waltham Forest and Redbridge--have seen their white British population drop by as much as a quarter over the past decade. The same applies to urban areas around the capital such as Luton, Reading and Bedfordshire. Meanwhile, the white British population in many suburban and rural districts just next door has soared, according to research

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It´s following the American pattern. Sometime around the late 80s, early 90s I read that the tipping point (when "white flight" sharply increases) for leaving an area or city because of a changing racial balance or culture is when that change represents 40% of the population.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/27/2013 11:08:43 AM     (No. 9142241)

´Tolerance´ has resulted in Muslim vigilantes and huge swaths of cities remade into foreign countries. The added insult, of course, is that generations of Britons are forced to finance this invasion and takeover with Guardian types shouting down any ´xenophobes´ and ´Little Englanders´ who question the policies and practices.

Romania and Bulgaria have joined the EU with millions itching to take advantage of the soft touches in the UK. The EU referendum, if it ever happens, won´t be until 2017.

There will always be an England? Not if the lefties have their way.

Perhaps we should, in small way, be grateful that we only have scroungers from a single nation streaming in, rather than dozens of ethnicities.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Antiquegolf, 1/27/2013 11:16:28 AM     (No. 9142253)

Good post #1. But I disagree with the last paragraph. Consider LA county schools where "instruction" is provided in more than 100 languages. A more scary number is 7. Thats the average number of children in muslim familes in USA. America is being overwhelmed by many forms of scroungers.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: craige, 1/27/2013 11:25:22 AM     (No. 9142270)

Hard to understand why white people would not appreciate diversity. Perhaps it´s the loud music (or callings to prayer), increased crime, lower education standards, and higher rents (for those who work).

Could it be that ´diversity´ means government is subjugating it´s only productive serfs? Do politicians constantly preach divisiveness? Do governments tell minorities lack of success is not their fault? Are crimes blamed on ´society´ instead of criminals?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: tnorling, 1/27/2013 11:50:25 AM     (No. 9142317)

The sad fact is that "multi-culturism" promotes cultural and ethnic segregation and animosities. The government, as much as it would like, can´t force people to like what they don´t want to. Nice try, collectivists - your heart is surely in the right place, ahem...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/27/2013 11:54:09 AM     (No. 9142323)

That´s why we need to plug our southern border #1. It isn´t just the Mexicans coming over. The other terrorists use the Mexicans as cover.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/27/2013 12:03:11 PM     (No. 9142332)

@#3: Simply put, diversity means forced interaction.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 1/27/2013 12:09:25 PM     (No. 9142339)

Well, golly gee, look at this: "...more Caucasians abandon urban areas for the countryside." What a (non)surprise!

Thomas Jefferson told us what they are fleeing: “When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” --- Thomas Jefferson

John N. Calhoun describes it somewhat better from his research on the aberrant behavior which develops from overcrowding, his "behavioral sink."

But Charles "Bell Curve" Murray nails it totally in "Coming Apart" and his analyses of the beliefs/behaviors of those in fictional Fishtown vs Belmont. [Oddly enough, there is a Fishtown in Behavioral Sink, PA...er, I mean Philly.]

Interestingly enough, Dr. Murray predicts in "Bell Curve" why white folks would be leaving London and other crowded, ´diverse´ cities (e.g., Detroit, Dearborn). The euphemism he uses is "cognitive ability."

Those that have it in larger measure assess and escape bad situations; those toward the other end of the bell curve hunker down and hope for change. [In the U.S., politicians cherish them, calling them ´victims.´]

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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/27/2013 12:21:20 PM     (No. 9142356)

Are these diverse groups racially and religiously tolerant? Do they believe in capitalism, individual freedom, the constitution? Will they use democracy to take over?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ruready?, 1/27/2013 12:23:12 PM     (No. 9142359)

"White Flight" or "Culture Flight"? Skin color has nothing to do with this.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 1/27/2013 12:48:09 PM     (No. 9142416)

Welcome to Detroit, Chicago, Newark, Atlanta, Memphis, East St. Louis &etc.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/27/2013 12:48:58 PM     (No. 9142419)

Left wingers, when they point out the joys of their ´diversity´ policies (bringing in third-world immigrants - and then having the taxpayer support them), never say where all those original Brits went - the Brits who used to live in those now Muslim or Black neighborhoods.

At least the original inhabitants managed to escape. I was worried that they had been made into Soylant Green - or falafels.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 1/27/2013 12:55:37 PM     (No. 9142432)

#8, a careful read of the article and examination of the “categories” in the tables would show this is but one of a series of recent DM articles, some posted on this site, that lament the demographic condition of “White Britons” and the rise of “Other Whites”. The UK compounded its liberal immigration policies for members of its Commonwealth with the immigration mandates of the European Community and those two factors coupled with an aging White Briton population, low birth rate, abortion, and interracial marriage have resulted in the current demographic.

It is the home of the welfare state which the US began to copy decades ago. Also, ask the Catholics and Protestants in the UK if there ever has been racial and religious tolerance in the island nation. Show me their constitution and a guarantee of individual freedom.

We’ve rescued the UK and Europe from itself in two world wars, and have defended their socialistic societies for 70 years since the last one and for 20 years since the end of the Cold War. We employ 26,000 civilians in the US Army in Europe, alone. A better focus may be on our country and our real trading partners to our north and south.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: geneinnyc, 1/27/2013 1:00:23 PM     (No. 9142440)

Welcome to Detroit!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 1/27/2013 1:03:23 PM     (No. 9142442)

Thanks, #7--it was an excerpt from The Bell Curve where I learned about the 40%.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: RIsailor, 1/27/2013 2:09:22 PM     (No. 9142536)

Boston defies the stereotype. While the city is a minority majority city, it is just barely so. With many colleges and hundreds of thousands of students, Boston is a great city to live in, at any income level.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: krause, 1/27/2013 2:20:13 PM     (No. 9142554)

Gee, another problem caused by politicians. Surprise, surprise.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/27/2013 2:35:53 PM     (No. 9142576)

When you subsidize something you get more of it. This is fact. The government has been subsidizing poverty for 40 years.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/27/2013 2:44:53 PM     (No. 9142597)

And they say Britain has not been successfully invaded since 1066 AD. Looks like that is no longer true.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bob913, 1/27/2013 3:31:17 PM     (No. 9142690)

It started here in the 1970´s with force school busing.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: tusker, 1/27/2013 4:19:31 PM     (No. 9142765)

Well I wonder why!

Duh.

The impact of The Bell Shaped Curve.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/27/2013 5:52:34 PM     (No. 9142959)

#12 makes good points - and the map is terribly misleading (the top two colors represent ranges of 96.7 -100 percent ´´white´´?)

One point where we may really agree is that (large-scale) segregated areas are mostly possible only when the government subsidizes such segregation. In the case of the UK, minority immigrants - who could not otherwise afford it - are settled in impossibly expensive London. Add immigrants from the Eastern Europe - subsidized although to a lesser extent (at least according to a Danish study) who are in part attracted by the welfare magnet and you get a very diverse and crowded greater London.

Now consider Detroit - the poster boy for the problem of ethnic divisions. Detroit in its current form could not have happened if our federal and state governments had not made it possible to live off taxpayers and a little crime on the side. As whites moved out - along with the private-sector jobs - blacks should not have been able to remain (and in many cases even arrive to take the vacated dwellings) without the government essentially paying the light bulls etc. - because the private economy would have been too small too support such a large population of welfare recipients and criminals. That is, as the whites left, the blacks would have had to move on as well. They did not because the welfare system allowed them to stay. So whites left, blacks stayed and the political power tilted towards race-based local government - encouraging even more whites to bail to the suburbs.

The bottom line is that modern segregation (as opposed to pre 1964 segregation) is a product of government policy.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/27/2013 10:49:11 PM     (No. 9143350)

It´s those darn numbers again. Birthrate will be our demise.

Why would any immigrant want to better educate themselves or their children or adopt the culture of their new country, when doing otherwise is so lucrative ? How many stories have we read about mothers with multiple children living in McMansions in the UK ?

Who wants to live in ghettos ?

How is that multiculturism working for you ?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/28/2013 4:41:00 AM     (No. 9143491)

According to Agenda 21, the plan is to move the countryside to cities. How can the UK allow the flight from urban to countryside? Didn´t they get the message?

Aside from that...I´d move too.

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