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Assault Weapons Ban Lacks
Democratic Votes to Pass Senate

Bloomberg, by Heidi Przybyla & Julie Hirschfeld Davis

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 1/25/2013 5:17:37 PM

A proposed ban on sales of assault weapons would be defeated in the U.S. Senate today unless some members changed their current views, based on a Bloomberg review of recent lawmaker statements and interviews. At least six of the 55 senators who caucus with Democrats have recently expressed skepticism or outright opposition to a ban, the review found. That means Democrats wouldn’t have a simple 51-vote majority to pass the measure, let alone the 60 votes needed to break a Republican filibuster to bring it to a floor vote. A ban on the military-style weapons is among the

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/25/2013 5:27:06 PM     (No. 9139381)

Cut it off at the knees..
Demand an up or down vote NOW.
Obama got his wrist slapped today with his recess appointments..now give him a butt kick for our Founding Fathers.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: STLstudent, 1/25/2013 5:42:07 PM     (No. 9139419)

This is only a temporary delay for the Little Dictator. There are other ways to bypass the Constitution, and they will take those paths.

DON´T REGISTER YOUR FIREARMS. DON´T SURRENDER YOUR FIREARMS!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LanieLou, 1/25/2013 5:44:50 PM     (No. 9139426)

They´ll ban firearms via regulations, ergo, the article about Geico refusing to issue car insurance to gun owners or affiliates of gun mfg´s. Someone smarter than I needs to file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all gun owners.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rita, 1/25/2013 6:14:09 PM     (No. 9139483)

For only today Bloomberg posits that Democrats won´t pass it, informally polling and guessing the rest.

Tomorrow is another day. When the arms are twisted off and a few personal scandals are threatening them, or their family, they will be extorted and will be coming around.

The extortables are the type they support and want in high office.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bkt23, 1/25/2013 6:22:47 PM     (No. 9139494)

Everyone in the Senate should be opposed to such a bill if they were living up to the oaths they took. It´s a disgrace that the vote would be that close.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Davids918, 1/25/2013 6:38:36 PM     (No. 9139515)

McConnell needs to get this to a vote ASAP with Democrats voting first, and no Republican voting until all Democrats are on record.



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Reply 7 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/25/2013 6:47:33 PM     (No. 9139530)

Hey this is great, Democrat leadership! Promise that the GOP will allow both the gun ban and the Obama budget to get to the floor of the Senate for a vote. Then vote present until all the Democrats have voted. It may even be worthwhile to let the budget actually get 51 votes so it can go to reconciliation with the House approved budgets. Just think of the Won having to veto a budget.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lanczos, 1/25/2013 6:47:43 PM     (No. 9139531)

Even the RATscum in the senate fears We The People - if for no other reason than that their Congressional Pensions might be endangered by an "aye" vote...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Winmag, 1/25/2013 7:17:07 PM     (No. 9139582)

I can´t wait to watch upChuckie and DiFi´s head explode when they find out not even their rat party supports this lunacy.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: eoddad, 1/25/2013 7:19:47 PM     (No. 9139590)

As PVT Gomer Pyle would say Surprise, Surprise Surprise. You mean Harry Reid is not going to make red state Dems up in 2014 vote gun control. GooolLY

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 1/25/2013 8:04:45 PM     (No. 9139658)

This draconian "assault weapons" ban is a red herring. Of course it won´t pass; it wasn´t supposed to pass.

Now the Senate is going to have to *do* something. So they´ll stiffen background check requirements. They´ll ´close the gun show loophole´. They´ll maybe demand that some weapons be registered.

Everything proposed will (almost by definition) be more "reasonable" than Feinstein´s ban, and thus will be harder to oppose.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: hamrman, 1/25/2013 9:24:07 PM     (No. 9139763)

Of course they don´t have the votes, they are all Morons!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mazeman, 1/26/2013 7:35:41 AM     (No. 9140116)

No ban, no magazine limits, no registration.

NO COMPROMISE!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rinktum, 1/26/2013 7:44:42 AM     (No. 9140123)

Didn´t we hear the same thing about Obamacare and yet enough arms were twisted and goodies passed out to pass it? Obama will "find" the votes. Count on it. Gun control is their Holy Grail and the rest of their agenda depends on. It will pass and then when the government comes for our guns, Obama will put the hammer down. Well, at least that was the nightmare I had last night. Whew, that was a little unsettling. After all, that could never happen in this country, right?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: strike3, 1/26/2013 7:45:11 AM     (No. 9140124)

"What difference does it make?"

We can play that game too with this illegal, no-accountability government. We will not comply, register or give up anything because the whole concept is unconstitutional. If the dumb dems vote the wrong way, they will realize their mistake when the door-to-door operations start and they realize who holds the real power.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/26/2013 7:46:10 AM     (No. 9140126)

Democrats are risking political suicide if they continue to pursue gun control.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: franq, 1/26/2013 7:48:54 AM     (No. 9140132)

Guns become only a rather expensive club without ammunition. Hussein knows this.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Tarheelkate, 1/26/2013 8:08:10 AM     (No. 9140152)

I don´t see Kay Hagan (D, NC) on this list of Seantors opposed. All Tarheels need to step up the pressure on Hagan. She needs to be replaced next year.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ross MacLochness, 1/26/2013 8:33:56 AM     (No. 9140195)

Let the Senate Democrats pass the ban. Get them on record. Then shoot it down in the House, and leave the stink on the Dems for the 2014 election. I say, contact the wavering Senators and tell them you´re a red-fanged gun owner, and you want them to vote for the ban. See if they can process that.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 1/26/2013 8:34:34 AM     (No. 9140196)

If this doesn´t pass Barry will Executive Order it.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Judith, 1/26/2013 8:46:57 AM     (No. 9140222)

If only I thought our politicians were, in their hearts and minds, doing the right thing and upholding our Constitution, this would comfort me. Alas, I think the majority of those creatures don´t even know what that wonderful document is. It is for some other reason they won´t vote for it. Perhaps a few are afraid of what their voters might do. At least THAT part of our system is working the way the founding fathers intended, sometimes.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Vivi, 1/26/2013 8:48:54 AM     (No. 9140224)

Easy peasy. Promise the 6 or 7 they need prestigious administration positions or appointments if they commit political suicide and vote for it. Run lying candidates in their places next year who swear they would have voted against it and campaign as fiscal conservatives who aren´t party hacks at all dontchaknow.

Democrats quit caring about the truth and doing the right thing a long long time ago.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: spengler, 1/26/2013 9:09:12 AM     (No. 9140249)

Don´t trap yourselves in the old paradigm; a majority did not want Ophonecare, but it was passed illegally by the senate. Anything failed by votes will be outlawed under emergency decree because "it´s too important to wait for congress to act."

EOs will be writen and congress dared to reject them.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/26/2013 9:19:04 AM     (No. 9140261)

I read yesterday that GEICO insurance is owned by that Obama footkisser Warren Buffett. If anyone here does business with Obama supports GEICO and BofA, maybe they should take their dollars elsewhere. If enough of Lcom readers do that, maybe somebody will start listening.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 1/26/2013 9:26:08 AM     (No. 9140269)

This is all theater for only one thing, a national registry. With that they will pick us off one little group at a time. First all accused of domestic violence, next those who see a shrink (for any reason), then those owing back taxes, then anyone who has a pending legal action (including traffic tickets). Since it will be only a few at a time they will get by with it, but your turn will come. STOP THIS NOW

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Reply 26 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/26/2013 9:47:28 AM     (No. 9140295)

The way to deal with the registration issue is to apply the same rules to anyone who pays for someone who will be armed in their presence. They should go into a searchable data base. They should get a psychiatric evaluation.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/26/2013 10:59:38 AM     (No. 9140451)

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

... shall not be infringed ...

Feinstein, "Oh yes we will!"
American Citizens, "Oh no you won´t"

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Reply 28 - Posted by: MattMusson, 1/26/2013 11:31:00 AM     (No. 9140515)

Please! Please! Please make the Democrat Senators vote on the record for gun confiscation!

There will be consequences at the ballot box.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: MDConservative, 1/26/2013 11:44:32 AM     (No. 9140552)

Republicans should proclaim this a BI-PARTISAN triumph for the people. Instead, they´ll gladly take the "blame" that will come their way, with McConnell the first to make excuses.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/26/2013 12:18:32 PM     (No. 9140615)

United States v. Miller confirmed our right to own "militia" style weapons.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: larryp, 1/26/2013 12:45:19 PM     (No. 9140667)

Over at Forbes is article
gun advocates celebrate ´Secret´ Obamacare provision forbidding Exec Order to regulate
guns and ammo
Sec 2176 part c inthe Affordable Health care act
To look up:
Go to Yahoo (not one of the others)
enter
www.forbes.com/2013/01/10
and it should be the first in the list.

article is by Rich Ungar and I wanted to recognize that.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/26/2013 1:12:38 PM     (No. 9140723)

The gun culture is a respected, important part of America, like the small plane flying culture, like the hunting culture, like the fly fishing culture, like the old ham radio culture, like the hot rod culture, the Harley culture, the country music culture, it is rock solid imbedded in all of our every day lives. And we all know we would prefer to have an armed next door neighbor, than a dis-armed no guns thank you neighbor, simply for our own family´s added protection. Not even a democrat who practices and spouts communism in his greed built soft job in Washington, wants to vote against the most solid culture in his voting constituency. Even a stupid commie democrat KNOWS he cannot destroy his voters support with this gun banning trash. Diane Feinstein, gun toting Feinstein is the most ridiculous hypocrit of them all. She is sbsurd, stupidly contradicting herself thinking she can ditch her own gun collection and create a last minute gun destroying band wagon. Is she totally nuts? Throw her out of office!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: dvc, 1/26/2013 1:51:20 PM     (No. 9140785)

#11 nails it. The AW Ban is the distraction, the magician´s hand that you are supposed to stay focussed on, while he picks your pocket with the other.

They only need to keep taking nibbles out of our rights, and doing "reasonable" restrictions. We now have 25,000 nibbles out of our rights.

We HAVE TO stop the "gun show loophole" lie, THIS IS UNIVERSAL GUN REGISTRATION.

This has been their HOLY GRAIL for the last 50 years, and they are using the AW Ban as a stalking horse to get gun registration.
If private sales are illegal, eventually ALL guns will be illegal or registered.
Then they can tax and confiscate at will.

As long as guns are freely bought and sold without government permission and controls, we are free people. Once this is gone it is gone FOREVER.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/26/2013 2:09:13 PM     (No. 9140814)

Japanese Admiral Yamamoto famously said, "I would never invade America. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass."

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Reply 35 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/26/2013 2:47:37 PM     (No. 9140872)

Here is the hang up that the liberal Democrats have to get through in order to pass their gun ban. The Democrats have to defend 20 Senate seats in the election next year plus all their seats in the House of Representatives. If the Senate votes on the gun ban those 20 Democrat Senators who are up for re-election, a few may retire, will have to show their hand, and if they vote for the gun ban some of them will not be re-elected you can bet on that. The Democrats also want to levy a $200.00 tax on each gun already owned by law abiding Americans, if you own 10 guns you get to pay a $2,000.00 tax, that´s going to go over like a lead balloon. So unless in looks like the Democrats have the votes to also pass their gun ban in the House of Representatives, it is doubtful that the Democrats will show their hand in the Senate by voting for a gun ban that will not pass the House. Since the House is controlled by the Republicans it is very doubtful that any such over reaching Democrat gun ban bill could pass there. You can safely bet that any Republican who would vote for such a bill will be opposed in the next Republican primaries with a lot of them becoming unelectable in the following general election. So no matter what the Obama propaganda machine pumps out, the Democrats getting any sort of a gun ban through the Congress is a steep uphill battle that just gives Obama the opportunity to travel outside Washington, DC and politically posture against the Republicans. That does not mean that everybody should not pay attention, and certainly should make their views known to their congressional representatives.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: rc1776, 1/26/2013 5:06:14 PM     (No. 9141072)

It, le curtseying bath house queen Øblamer the blo redistributor, has as it´s number one priority the destruction of all opposition by any means.
Secondly:
Pack the Sublime Kourt with muslim lovin´ fascist.
Appoint muslim lovin´ general officers.
Further weaken the NEA feral gov.nyet indoctrination gulags.
Reduce the general opposing taxpaying citizenry to serfs.
Destroy the Constitution, the Church, the Family and all semblance of decency.
Further strengthen the feral gov.nyet regimes despotic powers.
Do away with the election process and create a elitist ruling class in perpetuity.


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Reply 37 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 1/26/2013 7:18:20 PM     (No. 9141235)

These six senators are now waiting for Obama to make them an offer they can´t refuse. have you forgotten Obamacare so soon. pure bribery
in return for yes votes. with YOUR tax money.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/26/2013 7:24:16 PM     (No. 9141241)

We are far, far from out of the woods. Now the arm twisting begins. Bart Stupaks are everywhere.

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